Apple Launches App Development Program for Female Entrepreneurs and App Developers

[macsmurf]

I think we need more talent in STEM. We're losing out to other fields, such as Medicine and, God forbid, Law. Any initiative that aim to make STEM more attractive to a greater talent pool is a good thing, no?

It's true we have very few female software developers. Many here dream up reasons for this, and few provide any evidence. I don't think that is particularly helpful. Especially when your explanations tend to point the finger at either women being less capable, less interested, or men being sexist oppressors.

A skewed gender distribution within a field is not in itself evidence of any particular reason for that skew. If you're in STEM and you disagree you should have paid more attention in your University courses. All you're showing is your own bias.

Maybe it is possible to support initiatives that make the industry more attractive to women while at the same time refraining from alienating males already in the industry by essentially calling them sexist pigs? I think so.

 

[alien3dx]

I think we need more talent in STEM. We're losing out to other fields, such as Medicine and, God forbid, Law. Any initiative that aim to make STEM more attractive to a greater talent pool is a good thing, no?

It's true we have very few female software developers. Many here dream up reasons for this, and few provide any evidence. I don't think that is particularly helpful. Especially when your explanations tend to point the finger at either women being less capable, less interested, or men being sexist oppressors.

A skewed gender distribution within a field is not in itself evidence of any particular reason for that skew. If you're in STEM and you disagree you should have paid more attention in your University courses. All you're showing is your own bias.

Maybe it is possible to support initiatives that make the industry more attractive to women while at the same time refraining from alienating males already in the industry by essentially calling them sexist pigs? I think so.

Software Development are fast pace , women only good for slow pace environment work. The problem with this industry with spoil term as "AGILE" .

 

[patent10021]

It was made by someone who was hired to fill a diversity quota.

I didn't know Tim Cook could code.

 

[macsmurf]

Software Development are fast pace , women only good for slow pace environment work. The problem with this industry with spoil term as "AGILE" .

Yeah well, I work in the industry but I've worked in industries dominated by women as well. For example, I've worked on ICUs and NICUs where the day to day is essentially run by women. Intensive care is one of the most agile professions out there. If you can't make decisions quickly based on requirements changing by the minute people die. Female ICU nurses and doctors know what's up. Your bias is showing.

 

[alien3dx]

Yeah well, I work in the industry but I've worked in industries dominated by women as well. For example, I've worked on ICUs and NICUs where the day to day is essentially run by women. Intensive care is one of the most agile professions out there. If you can't make decisions quickly based on requirements changing by the minute people die. Female ICU nurses and doctors know what's up. Your bias is showing.

A little bit dif. Code monkey don't make decision making or some would said a clerk. Doctor/Nurse is respectable job compare to software developer/jack of all trade.

Software development is all about idea and creativity.If you don't limit the idea/requirement it never ever finish and this "agile" a bit diff.

 

[slowpoke]

I'm tired of seeing this gender-only, ethnic-only or whatever-only type of thing. Forced diversity is a joke. If women want to get into IT, they will. The reason there are not many women in the IT sector is because of evident natural sex differences.

Le Epic Macrumors Tech Smartman Pwns Female's And Ethnic's
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Software Development are fast pace , women only good for slow pace environment work. The problem with this industry with spoil term as "AGILE" .

why does this website have forums. shut it down
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"even out decades of oppression."... you're dreaming mate. No woman in America or Australia is more disadvantaged than any other male from the same economic background.

burn it. bury it. salt the earth. take a big ol steaming dump on the site. This Place Is Not A Place Of Honor

 

[mdnz]

Maybe it is possible to support initiatives that make the industry more attractive to women while at the same time refraining from alienating males already in the industry by essentially calling them sexist pigs? I think so.

Completely agree with this. But the people who call males in the industry sexist pigs will need some proper re-education first before that will ever be a reality. They're so far gone it's almost scary to read sometimes.

 

[chrono1081]

for all of you who have an issue here, did you have an issue with the Obamas doing it?
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/letgirlslearn

That's not remotely the same thing, not by a long shot.

 

[MacAndMic]

Yeah well, I work in the industry but I've worked in industries dominated by women as well. For example, I've worked on ICUs and NICUs where the day to day is essentially run by women. Intensive care is one of the most agile professions out there. If you can't make decisions quickly based on requirements changing by the minute people die. Female ICU nurses and doctors know what's up. Your bias is showing.

Good point. At one time, a male nurse or flight attendant was looked at with a raised eye. It does make me curious though, what if a large hospital created a program aimed at only males to educate and acquire them for a nurse position. How would that be viewed in the public eye?

 

[Stella]

Our company has changed the way it presents job offers, distributes resumes etc in order to attract more females. The results have been extremely positive:
* more females applicants
* improved mix of employee skills
* the best candidates have always been hired, whether that be female or male.

The end result, more females employees, better working environment for all and improved end products due to more diversity.

 

[jkcerda]

That's not remotely the same thing, not by a long shot.

yeah, the Obamas did it at the global level............

 

[826317]

yeah, the Obamas did it at the global level............

The Obamas did very little of substance when they were at the helm.

 

[jkcerda]

The Obamas did very little of substance when they were at the helm.

oh I agree, still glad they had that particular program.

 

[826317]

This is about empowering women for success, not having someone pick unqualified candidates. Nice straw man argument there. They are coming for you job mdnz. RUN!! LOL.

Do you really not realise how unbelievably belittling that sounds towards women? Essentially you're saying, women are not good enough, therefore we need to make them feel confident and good about themselves.

It's absolutely pathetic.

 

[alien3dx]

Do you really not realise how unbelievably belittling that sounds towards women? Essentially you're saying, women are not good enough, therefore we need to make them feel confident and good about themselves.

It's absolutely pathetic.

Women need to spoil .Sorry for me i cannot spoil them if work. You want to get emotional(womej) not my issue,
STICK TO requirement todo software instead instinct