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Everything is so much snappier. Thank goodness.

I love it so far. I hope with the 3.x updates they continue to redesign the sub-menus moving forward.

Anyone tried 30 FPS 720p?
 
Can't find iTunes Extras on my Apple TV

Am I the only who can't find iTunes Extras and iTunes LP content after updating? Works fine on iTunes, but nowhere to be found on my tv.

I can't find my iTunes Extras on my Apple TV either, which is supposed to be one of the big new features with the update. Anyone else had any luck?
 
The PCs came with Vista. Otherwise you are right. If I had to pay for Vista licenses separately it would cost more. I don't have wireless. The boxes came with built-in Gigabit ethernet. You need a wired LAN to stream Blu-ray. You do need to be a little bit of a geek to put it together. But now that it is hooked up even my little kids use it. I have programmed our Logitech Harmony remote to work with Media Center so it is very simple. Just one button wakes the HTPC and changes the TV to the right HDMI input. Then is is just up/down/left/right/OK/Back buttons from there on. Definitely not portable like the Apple TV. I just take my Macbook when I travel with a little Western Digital passport drive with the DVD ISOs on it. And with the little Apple Remote it makes for a great portable :D
I'm one of those dissatisfied Harmony owners. I thought it would be great, but now, all I can do is rant about wanting my iPhone to be a remote. :D What got me is how easily my wife used my iPhone to control AppleTV's music playback. It was natural. Moreover, it didn't require pointing the device. I tried to teach her how to operate the harmony, but it never quite worked out. Moreover, even I was confused from time to time.

~ CB
 
Apple Will Win This Battle...

Apple will win this battle, hands down.​

Are the Palm people that dumb that they don't realize that Apple has probably purchased plenty of Palm Pre's by now to identify codes and technology in the devices to continually block them for all eternity? Just having a USB code will not be Palm's ultimate solution. Apple will release iTUNES updates for various reasons every few months, and guess what? They're gonna deactivate the Palm Pre and make it a less useful device to owners and they will be darn mad. And most likely, they'll be mad at Palm, not Apple.

And the funny thing is, I don't even think Apple considers the Palm Pre a big threat at all. The main reason for blocking the device is copyright and legal reasons because hacking into iTUNES would technically violate Apple's contracts with the music & film industry and Apple is technically under contract to stop things like this from happening.

So I don't blame Apple at all.
People can complain that this is anti-competitive and not playing fair,
but hell, why doesn't Palm write its OWN software?
 
Bit gutted the new UI is only on the home menu, not in the actual TV shows, movies etc themselves.

I'd have liked the beautiful artwork across the top of the screen like in the home menu and then going into a list.

Feels a bit sluggish and the new music artwork slideshow as a screensaver doesn't work... well it didn't work when I tried to preview anyway.

The new GUI is sexy, no denying that. Let's hope Apple continues this into all the other menus too.

Absolutely agree. I couldn't believe it when I went from the new main menu into the old menus. This should be update 2.4.1 or at most 2.5, it's so superficial that no way should it be 3.0.

I too found it ridiculously slow - I was demonstrating it to my wife to show how slow it was going into My TV Shows - it took so long (5 seconds +) I had come to the conclusion that the button press hadn't responded before the menu finally appeared.

The only real benefit I've seen so far is that my music continues playing when I go to browse through movies and TV shows on the Apple Store.

Still no HD TV shows in the UK.

Very disappointed. Will be glad if all the bugs have gone though - not had any problems playing video so far.
 
Do you have to hack the ATV to stream DVD's or Blu-Rays to it? Can anyone post a guide to legally stream DVD and Blu-Ray content to the ATV?
 
For a little over $100 you could get a Blu-Ray player that has BOTH of these features (as well as obviously playing DVDs), so as to round out your entertainment center. I know its really tempting for fellow geeks to invent scenarios where they think they're saving so much money, but I think your solution is VERY pricey and not available to average consumers at all. You started off by saying you didn't see the value for the $229, but I think its pretty clear the value is unbeatable at this point for what it does. The only question... is what it does valuable ENOUGH? Having experienced an explosion of Apple TV sales, I think Apple would have to say "yes". It's just a market category that doesn't quite make immediate sense to most people, so the tendency is to keep piling extra features into the category until it "feels right". All those extra features usually come at a price though.

With Netflix coming to PlayStation 3 slim, I'm planning to get one of those for my NetFlix/Blu-Ray needs. At $299, its a nice little addition that makes for a decent combo with Apple TV for a little over $500 cost (much less if you hit eBay like you mentioned in your original post).

~ CB

Well you could always get a case like mine.

I have a 5 year old windows computer that I plan on replacing with something new. Put windows 7 on it ($30 jump because of EDU cost) and have to buy a HDMI card for it and convert it to just a deticated file server for housing movies. I am sitting on over 600 gigs of Hard drive space on it just to use for that.

Mix that with my 360 easy to stream movies/ video to other locations in the house.

Total cost for that switch will be dirt cheap for me as I am converting a older piece of hardware to do what i need it to do. Cheaper, more power and more uses than Apple TV. Ties into more system.

The one thing Microsoft got right was connecting the computer with the TV. Apple system is pretty much crap compared to it.
 
Just curious: why do you want new hardware? I mean, what new hardware-functionality would you like to see?

What I could see is bigger HD's, but other than that there's not much to change.

Less heat. Bigger HD - my music collection is 320 GB of Apple Lossless (I buy waaay too many CDs). A little more performance to increase responsiveness in menus and make full 1080P possible. And most important - a more complicated remote. Softwarewise, I want an app store...
 
still no avi/mkv support? Booooooooooo!

You don't want it unless it's leveraging hardware decode....

There are ways to get the codec on an apple TV (ATV Flash for instance) but since those codecs cannot leverage the hardware decoders, the performance is unwatchable on the main Apple TV CPU. I tried it and it's a waste of time.

Ho hum. :(
 
Do you have to hack the ATV to stream DVD's or Blu-Rays to it? Can anyone post a guide to legally stream DVD and Blu-Ray content to the ATV?

On a Mac, I use Handbrake to rip DVD's. I use iSquint to convert .avi content. It works super smooth, and ads the content to iTunes automagically, so it's a 1 step process. Seriously, I don't think there is a better interface for my HDTV. It's not perfect, but I just don't know of anything better. I even ran Boxee for a while on mine, but the interface was too confusing for my guests/roomates.
 
Here's The Answer To All The Lp And Extras Questions!

Apparently the original release of Extras/LP weren't compatible with tv. Big OOPS on Apple's part, but there's a fix: if you've downloaded anything that has LP or Extras, you will get an email soon from Apple telling you to redownload those extras using the following steps:

1. Update to iTunes 9.0.2 or later and Apple TV 3.0 or later.
2. Open iTunes.
3. Choose Store > Check for available downloads.
4. If prompted, enter your account name and password.
5. Download the new iTunes Extras and iTunes LPs to your Mac or PC.
6. Sync the movie or album that includes your updated iTunes Extras or iTunes LP to your Apple TV.

Already read one report in another forum from a user claiming that movies/albums purchased PRIOR to the release of iTunes Extras/LP are being included in this re-download. For example, if you bought Ironman when it first came out on iTunes (pre-Extras), there's a chance you may now get the iTunes extras that go with it.

At any rate, here's the Apple support article:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3938
 
Cheaper, more power and more uses than Apple TV. Ties into more system.
You can be honest about it, or you can freely conflate "out of pocket" costs and total cost. You can get an Apple TV on eBay for $130 or less, $100 on Craigslist, or super-cheap if you know where else to look. I can pick up one tonight for $100 here in Boston if I wanted. "Cheaper"? Come on. If I took my old PC computer, reformatted the viruses off of it, and tried to make it a media center, I'm sure that it would cost me $100 more per year just to have it turned on all the time. You know this is true. The Apple TV, meanwhile, is low-power, quiet, and conserves energy.
The one thing Microsoft got right was connecting the computer with the TV. Apple system is pretty much crap compared to it.
Microsoft has gotten a lot right, but their biggest goof with Media Center, is making it a separate operating system aside from normal "Windows". They should have given it away free with every copy of Windows, period (like Frontrow). Moreover, Apple's Apple TV system isn't "crap" compared to it... its just more "basic" (less expensive and less ambitious). Point being, some of the nicest improvements around media center, has been making it look more like Apple TV (using plugins and such). The latest update looks pretty stellar though.

~ CB
 
this is the first thing I noticed also, and now when you are listening to a song and then decided to navigate Movies/Tv Shows/Photos, the music continues to play until you select the movie you want to watch. previously, as soon as you switched to a different category the music stopped.

Yes, that was VERY refreshing...HATED how it wouldn't keep playing in the past. This was the best part of the update IMO.
 
It already has DVI out, right? And audio out, right? Why not just get a DVI+Audio - HDMI cable and stop complaining? I mean, people act like HDMI is some magical wire ... it's just DVI and audio in a single wire, and they sell cables to do that conversion just about everywhere.

1) I wasn't complaining. I was observing.

2) DVI+Audio > HDMI converters are incredibly expensive.
 
I'm trying Plex now since Front Row accessing a remote iTunes library is terrible (i.e. no album art, big monolithic TV show lists, etc.). However, when I went to set up my TV shows it found all but one TV show, and each show had 0 seasons and 0 episodes. So it seems a little rough around the edges... as one would expect from a 0.8.3 release.

But it definitely looks promising... much more so than Front Row which isn't even as good now as it was in the original release, IMO.

You can access everything from the videos section, if you want to use tv shows and movies all your files have to be named correctly so that plex can scrape the information from the selected websites.
 
A console can do what Apple TV does and better. A console can play retail discs. A console can play xVid natively. A console costs less than an Apple TV.

It is advertised as a media player, so are consoles.


I understand that concept. However you didn't answer my question.

When was the Apple TV advertised as a "console"
 
I understand that concept. However you didn't answer my question.

When was the Apple TV advertised as a "console"

I'm was talking about the media concepts of consoles. AppleTV was never advertised as a consoles But consoles are also advertised as media players.

You're knit picking for the sake of an argument.
 
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