I can only speak from my experience - 3x replacement keyboards on my 2016 before I sold it. The 2nd and 3rd replacement were the supposedly “upgraded” 2017 keyboard, and they failed just as fast as the 2016.
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I can only speak from my experience - 3x replacement keyboards on my 2016 before I sold it. The 2nd and 3rd replacement were the supposedly “upgraded” 2017 keyboard, and they failed just as fast as the 2016.
[doublepost=1524311461][/doublepost]I don't think "rushing" is a problem for Apple these days.
It's fun to watch this from the sidelines ... my last MacBook was from 2014.
There are plenty of notebooks that don't have these issues.
I hope for WWDC or September, but I don't believe Apple will ever build a MacBook again that I want to buy.
There are plenty of notebooks that don't have these issues.
I hope for WWDC or September, but I don't believe Apple will ever build a MacBook again that I want to buy.
Sure, they should just figure out in advance which batch of batteries will develop problems and put a note in the package for computers with batteries from that batch that in two-years time they will be able to get a new battery for free.
Of course, if they are able to figure which batch will go bad, they could just not use the batteries from that batch, but I'm sure the former method is so much cheaper.
FWIW, Dell currently has a battery recall on their flagship XPS 15 due to swollen batteries affecting trackpad and keyboard operation. XPS 13 has the same issue, but Dell hasn't (won't) do a recall on that model.
Seems the problem is the battery companies, not the computer makers.
Love mine on my 2017 MBP.
Excellent feel, more accurate and faster typing. Would never go back to the one on my MBA, or any other previous keyboard.
I sadly agree, expectations for the modular Mac Pro actually addressing most consumer feedback while being reasonably priced seems utopic at this point considering every Mac product put out under Cook's direction and how some like the Mini are left in the dust (even some peripherals like keyboard/mouse with zero ergonomics, feature removal, overpriced with retarded designs also).
Maybe after Cook era if someone who actually cares about product design takes over, we will see pro computers/laptops.
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In aircraft, we saw this often enough to devote a massive amount of engineering to standards and regulations to mitigate this risk, isolating lion batts in small containment cells behind firewalls from primary structures, jettison mechanisms, active RT temp&health monitoring, short life cycles, etc. They're basically randomly set ticking time bombs up there. Any visible sign of failure in one is an emergency that needs to be dealt with immediately.
See if you can find the lion batteries in this Boeing 787...
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Show of hands for those here reading this who would not pay a little extra for a user serviceable battery. Ridiculous to pay extra for something to be the right way, like organic non-GMO foods, but Apple likes the charging extra aspect of it. Especially Tim "The Crook" Cook...
They'll get a new keyboard/ replacement keyboard with a battery repair. and vice versa
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Yesterday I dropped my mid-2014 15" rMBP at the Apple Store because of a swollen battery. It won't sit flat on a table and the trackpad doesn't work anymore. The bill will be $199 and will take 3-5 days. Figures. Maybe they will decide not to charge me. Because of the bottom cover bulge and the top case bulge between the space bar and the track pad, they will replace everything except the motherboard and the display for the same $199 (if they charge me).
Says an armchair engineer.
Apple designs their gear much better than some others and I am not naming any company here.
If the battery is placed nearby sharp objects it could become an issue if it expands, we saw that before happening to a different company and we all know where that ended.
Apple designs their laptops and other gear so that even if the battery expands it won't become a time bomb.
AFAIK every lithium ion cell expands, almost all do when they are already years past their time you could still charge them yet some start before due to manufacturing faults.
If this machine is less then lets say 3-5 years old Apple should repair it free of charge.
I know here in Europe it's much easier than in the states.
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Mine was kind enough to bow the trackpad, keyboard, and base out. It also deformed the fan housing.
One good thing about going ahead and replacing it is that I didn’t have to wait a week for official repair and who knows how long now that there is an official program. v0v