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I like using Siri for the most part, and I try to use it whenever I'm driving. But I agree that Siri MUST become much more capable and reliable. When it works it's great. But I'm really tired of being that guy that gets into arguments with his phone while driving down the road because it's mentally challenged. I'm convinced that "Siri Rage" has to be a real thing. It can't be only me... I used Cortana on a Windows phone for a brief month or two (sad times). I would never willingly trade my iPhone in for a Windows phone, but I must say there were some things in general that Siri could learn from Cortana! Apple CAN and MUST do better. ;)
 
Has anyone ever had Siri correctly understand "Orion constellation"? I always get Orien or O'Ryan and then a web search for that term. I've tried saying it many different ways. It's a bad example to be highlighting when Siri has a hard time getting it right.

Just tried it three time, and each time Siri understood me perfectly.
 

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from what I have seen Google makes siri look like a uneducated peasant. apple has not improved her much over the years now and the longer it takes the less people will rely on her.
 
I could make a website with all the things that don't work, but that must be common requests.

Apple really need to step up their personal assistant game.
I stopped using it for anything but timers (where "Hey Siri" is really useful from across the room I have to say! :) ).

I just don't want to see web searches anymore and discover what all Siri cannot do, so I stopped bothering.
I'll use it more when I hear that it's gotten much better, but they don't show signs of moving very fast in this area, so I don't know when that will be.
Not holding my breath.

And to think I once jailbroke my iPhone 4 to get it via gray methods, because I was so thrilled... Wow...

Taught me well to wait for the novelty thrill to cool off, even and more commonly now, with Apple too.

Glassed Silver:mac
 
Me thinks this dedicated page will get updated again when OS X 10.11 comes out; arguably with Siri (finally) built in so it isn't seen as the other major desktop OS that doesn't have voice assistant like Windows 10 will.
 
Siri has gotten so much better at this. Still can't understand when I ask to play artist Volbeat though, that's probably going to take a long, long time.

i just think its inexcusable at this point that it continues to be a problem. my girlfriend has an HTC One a few weeks ago, i was playing with that phone's speech to text and google now and it was about 99.9% accurate. at one point I even held up both phones and asked them the same question. the HTC was 5 for 5 while my 5S was 1 for 5. it made me have a sad :(

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Seriously. Siri understands me like 99.999999999% of the time so I don't know what all ya'll must be doing...

you must be one of the rare ones. I dont know many people with iphones who *havent* complained about Siri mangling things at some point.
 
idk voice control seems unnatural to me on whatever platform. I gave up and only use it to set my alarm

whenever I tried to set up let's say a reminder it ended up with an actual TEXT like this "reminder... pause... crap what did I want to say again... pause... waaaah delete that.... Pause... wait don't write that down.... pause.... remind text xy to pick up xy"

do u want me to save that?
- nooo just the last part!
okay I set a reminder "no just the last part"
 
all i want is for Siri to accurately understand what Im saying to it. All this other stuff is pointless otherwise.

Totally agree.

Siri has gotten so much better at this. Still can't understand when I ask to play artist Volbeat though, that's probably going to take a long, long time.

Gotta disagree on the level of improvement.

OK but I don't normally go around ordering my friends to place my calls, make my reservations, or take dictation.

But maybe that's just me.

:D

I'm sure they meant using a somewhat casual, conversational tone.
 
I got to get around to trying Siri. I've had iPhones 5 through 6 and only toyed around with Siri and no further.
 
What is the matter with siri starting/stopping the chronometer / stopwatch ?

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It knows what I want to do as it gives me a "open clock app" button while explicitly saying it can't... and it's like that since iOS6.

Dafok Apple, you seriously wrote code to tell us that you didn't want to code this specific & very simple function ?
 
To me, this is indicative of big Siri plans in the future, and not even just relative to the iPhone. It's not like there's anything mindblowingly new, but the fact that they are trying to solidify Siri's place in the market and create a dedicated page has me thinking this way.
 
What is the matter with siri starting/stopping the chronometer / stopwatch ?

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It knows what I want to do as it gives me a "open clock app" button while explicitly saying it can't... and it's like that since iOS6.

Dafok Apple, you seriously wrote code to tell us that you didn't want to code this specific & very simple function ?
It's because a stop-watch is usually used for precise timing. That sort of rules out waiting for the server's response.
 
from what I have seen Google makes siri look like a uneducated peasant. apple has not improved her much over the years now and the longer it takes the less people will rely on her.

From what I've seen and used, Siri has improved quite a bit. Here's a side-by-side comparison with Google Now: https://vimeo.com/116694707

I'm not saying it's better than Google - but it certainly is improving. Same could be said about Apple Maps btw.
 
It's because a stop-watch is usually used for precise timing. That sort of rules out waiting for the server's response.


usually, but not always (for example when measuring a car/train/plane ride, etc...)

For short events the voice detection data for this specific command could be locally stored.
 
I still have no idea why people keep calling Siri a "her". My Siri has a male voice, and fails the Turing test already at the second sentence of a conversation, so it's an "it" to me. I do use Siri a lot, and I do speak to it like a friend - a mentally handicapped friend, who is rarely able to remember my last sentence.

Something I posted before, and which is still true: Siri is useful to me only because I have figured out exactly the correct sequence of words required to do specific tasks. Everything slightly out of the ordinary is like playing the lottery with frustratingly bad odds. trying to actually rely on some level of context awareness is pointless, even though Apple heavily promoted that aspect of Siri when It was introduced.

I know how to pronounce album names to make Siri recognize them for example. Still, I have never ever managed to get Siri to play Peter Gabriel's album "So". Now with Siri's real-time voice recognition display, I can even see that it understands the word "so" perfectly well, but then it quickly changes it to "soul" to play Tower of Power's album "Souled Out" instead. Every time. Siri hates Peter Gabriel. Or it just can't imagine that someone would own an album called "So".

The funny part is that the voice control that the iPhone had before Siri worked significantly better for my music than Siri does, even though the voice control was purely client-based, while Siri is server-based. But perhaps that is a part of the problem, because a server does not have all the relevant information about what is on my phone.

Machine translation was actually my minor subject at the university in the 90's. I would have thought machine-based language recognition could have made some progress since then, but Siri can't even do some of the basic stuff that we discussed in class 20 years ago. Quite sad, actually. I rarely say "I can do this better", but in this case, I easily could. I know if I were in charge of that team, Siri would improve drastically very quickly. Yes, sounds like a case of severe over-confidence, but some stuff Siri does ist just mind-numbingly stupid.

And the same goes by the way for the pitifully bad Google and Bing Translate sites, which suffer from some similar basic problems like Siri. Someone with my background in language recognition could easily improve these significantly, but I have the impression that the teams working on Siri or Google Translate are purely software engineers with very little knowledge on how language actually works. Bizarre, but it's the only explanation for the bad results. Even more bizarre that Apple actually bought a company specializing in voice recognition to enable Siri. What a waste of money!

That would be like buying maps from a company specializing in mapping applications only to find out that the maps are wildly inaccurate. Oh... wait... Apple did that too! ;-)
 
I still have no idea why people keep calling Siri a "her". My Siri has a male voice, and fails the Turing test already at the second sentence of a conversation, so it's an "it" to me. I do use Siri a lot, and I do speak to it like a friend - a mentally handicapped friend, who is rarely able to remember my last sentence.

Something I posted before, and which is still true: Siri is useful to me only because I have figured out exactly the correct sequence of words required to do specific tasks. Everything slightly out of the ordinary is like playing the lottery with frustratingly bad odds. trying to actually rely on some level of context awareness is pointless, even though Apple heavily promoted that aspect of Siri when It was introduced.

I know how to pronounce album names to make Siri recognize them for example. Still, I have never ever managed to get Siri to play Peter Gabriel's album "So". Now with Siri's real-time voice recognition display, I can even see that it understands the word "so" perfectly well, but then it quickly changes it to "soul" to play Tower of Power's album "Souled Out" instead. Every time. Siri hates Peter Gabriel. Or it just can't imagine that someone would own an album called "So".

The funny part is that the voice control that the iPhone had before Siri worked significantly better for my music than Siri does, even though the voice control was purely client-based, while Siri is server-based. But perhaps that is a part of the problem, because a server does not have all the relevant information about what is on my phone.

Machine translation was actually my minor subject at the university in the 90's. I would have thought machine-based language recognition could have made some progress since then, but Siri can't even do some of the basic stuff that we discussed in class 20 years ago. Quite sad, actually. I rarely say "I can do this better", but in this case, I easily could. I know if I were in charge of that team, Siri would improve drastically very quickly. Yes, sounds like a case of severe over-confidence, but some stuff Siri does ist just mind-numbingly stupid.

And the same goes by the way for the pitifully bad Google and Bing Translate sites, which suffer from some similar basic problems like Siri. Someone with my background in language recognition could easily improve these significantly, but I have the impression that the teams working on Siri or Google Translate are purely software engineers with very little knowledge on how language actually works. Bizarre, but it's the only explanation for the bad results. Even more bizarre that Apple actually bought a company specializing in voice recognition to enable Siri. What a waste of money!

That would be like buying maps from a company specializing in mapping applications only to find out that the maps are wildly inaccurate. Oh... wait... Apple did that too! ;-)
Thanks for the lecture...?
 
Never knew about flip a coin before. I might actually use that sometimes. Maybe. Probably not.
 
from what I have seen Google makes siri look like a uneducated peasant. apple has not improved her much over the years now and the longer it takes the less people will rely on her.

Agree completely. I want to love Siri, but the voice recognition in Google is far superior and faster. The only plus Siri has is integration with iPhone features...but I use the google voice functionality for everything I can.

Silly jokes and simple parlor tricks don't make up for poor functionality. If Apple can get the voice recognition/speed up to Google with the phone implementation, then they'll be getting somewhere. Otherwise Siri is only good for the simple/basic commands.
 
I still have no idea why people keep calling Siri a "her". My Siri has a male voice, and fails the Turing test already at the second sentence of a conversation, so it's an "it" to me. I do use Siri a lot, and I do speak to it like a friend - a mentally handicapped friend, who is rarely able to remember my last sentence.

Something I posted before, and which is still true: Siri is useful to me only because I have figured out exactly the correct sequence of words required to do specific tasks. Everything slightly out of the ordinary is like playing the lottery with frustratingly bad odds. trying to actually rely on some level of context awareness is pointless, even though Apple heavily promoted that aspect of Siri when It was introduced.

I know how to pronounce album names to make Siri recognize them for example. Still, I have never ever managed to get Siri to play Peter Gabriel's album "So". Now with Siri's real-time voice recognition display, I can even see that it understands the word "so" perfectly well, but then it quickly changes it to "soul" to play Tower of Power's album "Souled Out" instead. Every time. Siri hates Peter Gabriel. Or it just can't imagine that someone would own an album called "So".

The funny part is that the voice control that the iPhone had before Siri worked significantly better for my music than Siri does, even though the voice control was purely client-based, while Siri is server-based. But perhaps that is a part of the problem, because a server does not have all the relevant information about what is on my phone.

Machine translation was actually my minor subject at the university in the 90's. I would have thought machine-based language recognition could have made some progress since then, but Siri can't even do some of the basic stuff that we discussed in class 20 years ago. Quite sad, actually. I rarely say "I can do this better", but in this case, I easily could. I know if I were in charge of that team, Siri would improve drastically very quickly. Yes, sounds like a case of severe over-confidence, but some stuff Siri does ist just mind-numbingly stupid.

And the same goes by the way for the pitifully bad Google and Bing Translate sites, which suffer from some similar basic problems like Siri. Someone with my background in language recognition could easily improve these significantly, but I have the impression that the teams working on Siri or Google Translate are purely software engineers with very little knowledge on how language actually works. Bizarre, but it's the only explanation for the bad results. Even more bizarre that Apple actually bought a company specializing in voice recognition to enable Siri. What a waste of money!

That would be like buying maps from a company specializing in mapping applications only to find out that the maps are wildly inaccurate. Oh... wait... Apple did that too! ;-)

Have you tried the latest version of Google Translate yet? I had a long conversation with a friend in English to French and then Spanish and it worked like a charm .. I also love doing (Siri VS Ok Google) contests with my son who has a iPhone 5s, and my Nexus5. Ok Google .. kills Siri at almost everything we throw at it ..
I know that Siri will improve over time, but for now my son does things manually as he says using Siri is a waste of his time....
 
Siris voice recognition and speech synthesis is pretty good. What Apple needs to work on is her personality and intelligence.

She should be able to do conversions, like smart action
http://www.smartaction.com/resources/audio-samples

She is also too passive, if I ask "How's your day been?" she will only reply "Excellent", not follow up with a question, i.e. why I am not at work, if I home on a weekday. Ask me if have problem sleeping, if it is late at night. Be more lika a secretary.

Also third party integration, like Spotify
 
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Silly jokes and simple parlor tricks don't make up for poor functionality. If Apple can get the voice recognition/speed up to Google with the phone implementation, then they'll be getting somewhere. Otherwise Siri is only good for the simple/basic commands.

right on..


btw.. i like siri... So much potential, so little progress..
 
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