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It’s different. What exists in Poland and most other places are digital copies or versions of the physical documents that you just show when you’re asked to. Apple, here, just implemented a way to present the official ID using nfc just like when you pay with Apple Pay or your contactless card. No information is shown on the iphone or apple watch screen anymore, just a generic card image (as shown in the article). The ID info just gets transmitted via nfc when the device is tapped on a designated nfc reader. Plus, this is built into iphones, no need to download any app.
 
LMAO, I know this idea seems cool, but at the same time, having all this sensitive info stored to one's phone is a kinda dumb risk. Those risks include:

> A hacker getting a hold of the info on your license.
> Phone getting stolen and license is used fraudulently.
> Phone breaking and unable to bring up license in traffic stop because you chose not to bring the physical card.
> Phone dying and the same thing as above happening.
> System messing up and unable to read electronic card, rendering it moot in purpose.

And many more reasons...

Just use a physical card, people. I really don't understand why so many people (mainly zoomers) want EVERYTHING to be electronic.
 
LMAO, I know this idea seems cool, but at the same time, having all this sensitive info stored to one's phone is a kinda dumb risk. Those risks include:

> A hacker getting a hold of the info on your license.
> Phone getting stolen and license is used fraudulently.
> Phone breaking and unable to bring up license in traffic stop because you chose not to bring the physical card.
> Phone dying and the same thing as above happening.
> System messing up and unable to read electronic card, rendering it moot in purpose.

And many more reasons...

Just use a physical card, people. I really don't understand why so many people (mainly zoomers) want EVERYTHING to be electronic.
How about, let people use what they want? Physical card is fine, and electronic version is fine too.

But your points are handled by using Find My iPhone and wiping it remotely or putting into lost mode when you know it's lost. Then someone can't use the license on it unless they can sign in using iCloud. Unlikely they could do that, and if it's wiped it's basically a reset iPhone with nothing on it at that point.

And some people use Apple Watches and iPhones concurrently. If one is broken or stolen you can use the other. And I can carry a portable battery with me if I need to go a week on the iPhone without plugging in, and I usually don't go a week without power and I keep it charged each night on a nightstand.

Again there's nothing wrong with wanting an electronic ID. At the very least you can use both electronic and physical ID. You could keep the physical card in your car or backpack "just in case". It's just an option for people who want it.
 
LMAO, I know this idea seems cool, but at the same time, having all this sensitive info stored to one's phone is a kinda dumb risk. Those risks include:

> A hacker getting a hold of the info on your license.
> Phone getting stolen and license is used fraudulently.
> Phone breaking and unable to bring up license in traffic stop because you chose not to bring the physical card.
> Phone dying and the same thing as above happening.
> System messing up and unable to read electronic card, rendering it moot in purpose.

And many more reasons...

Just use a physical card, people. I really don't understand why so many people (mainly zoomers) want EVERYTHING to be electronic.
Some of above "risks" can happen with a paper card as well.
 
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Just went through the routine. You scan both sides of your license; then you move your head around, open your mouth, that sort of thing — presumably to make sure you’re at least a ventriloquist’s dummy. Then a final selfie … and, last, a notification that it’s been sent to the state and that you’ll be notified by Wallet of any updates.

I’m especially curious to see what it looks like once it’s actually been added to Wallet. Will there be a front-and-back picture that I could hand to the nice ossifer should I forget my wallet at home? Because the press release makes plain that it’s only Sky Harbor TSA point-of-entry kiosks that support the no-touch verification.

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I don't know if it has been answered. I'm sure you noticed that once approved you will get the same Arizona picture you see in the article with your First name and Last initial. You can use a tab/button at the top right of the screen to see license details. There you will be greeted to your Arizona DMV photo. I look so young.
 
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The international standard underneath this (ISO 18013-5) is really only for mobile drivers licenses.

We are just the odd duck in the US that we politically had to leverage state-issued ID cards as a substitute for a national ID program. Other countries would just be using these for proof of driving privileges, and thus may very we have less urgent need for rolling this out.

There are other standards coming (the ISO 23220 series) for generalized usage.
What???? I was simply making a joke about how slow Canada is in implementing stuff.
 
I would guess (only a guess) is that it might have to do with the secure enclave vulnerability. e.g. things running A7-A11.

It might not be, but who knows
I know iPhone 7 has capability of some NFC features not available on the 6S, and Tap to Pay on iPhone is XS or newer due to hardware. So, I'm guessing there's good reason tied to the NFC spec or secure enclave. Time will tell.
 
LMAO, I know this idea seems cool, but at the same time, having all this sensitive info stored to one's phone is a kinda dumb risk. Those risks include:

> A hacker getting a hold of the info on your license.
> Phone getting stolen and license is used fraudulently.
> Phone breaking and unable to bring up license in traffic stop because you chose not to bring the physical card.
> Phone dying and the same thing as above happening.
> System messing up and unable to read electronic card, rendering it moot in purpose.

And many more reasons...

Just use a physical card, people. I really don't understand why so many people (mainly zoomers) want EVERYTHING to be electronic.

Where in the article did they mention anything about providing your license in a traffic stop?
 
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you can’t just show it to law enforcement because it shows no information on the phone screen. They need to have an nfc device to read it. Which heavily limits its usefulness, as it will take long for those readers to become commonplace.
I'm referring to the MyColorado app, which just shows a picture of you license.
 
Is this some kind of novelty in the U.S.?? in Poland we've had a government app (mObywatel), both for iOS and android, which does exactly the same since 2019.. in this app we have: driver's license, ID card, vaccination certificate, car documents/insurance, electronic prescriptions, etc., no one carries any physical documents any longer... and interestingly enough, it's Americans who make fun of Poles by telling Polish jokes.... ;)
I’ll get even worse I live in Indiana and we r usually the last states to get anything cuz our governor is afraid of technology or something we still can’t play lottery online and I have no clue when we will get drivers licenses.
 
It seems like a cool feature, but if I get pulled over I don’t really like the idea of giving my phone to the cop. Then I can’t record the stop to keep things honest. Plus, what if things start to go sideways after you give your phone to the cop and then he won’t give it back.
 
I tried to do it, but I have an old style license from 15 years ago (never got the new one since they don't expire for 50 years here in AZ) and it won't scan the back, assuming they changed the style of the newer license. Those of us in AZ who haven't updated, we may have to now.

https://azdot.gov/motor-vehicles/driver-services/arizona-travel-id
"Effective May 3, 2023, only the Arizona Travel ID (driver license or ID card), a U.S. passport and other federally approved identification will be accepted at TSA airport security checkpoints for domestic travel."

I was hoping to keep my AZ driver's license until it expires when I'm 65 years old too. Still has "Under 21 Until ..2012" and picture of me when I was 16?
 
Is this some kind of novelty in the U.S.?? in Poland we've had a government app (mObywatel), both for iOS and android, which does exactly the same since 2019.. in this app we have: driver's license, ID card, vaccination certificate, car documents/insurance, electronic prescriptions, etc., no one carries any physical documents any longer... and interestingly enough, it's Americans who make fun of Poles by telling Polish jokes.... ;)
I think the novelty is having it integrated into the Apple wallet. Many other countries do the same as what you outlined. However, congrats on the experience!

Have you been able to completely eliminate carrying a physical ID? Are there any instances you still require one? I am curious to see the experience of those out side of the USA who have entirely eliminated their physical wallets.
 
I think the novelty is having it integrated into the Apple wallet. Many other countries do the same as what you outlined. However, congrats on the experience!

The novelty is both having the ID integrated into the Apple Wallet and, mainly, presenting it via NFC (aka tapping). In other countries they have 3rd party apps that let them have their ID on their phone, but it’s no more than a picture or scan of their physical ID. They don’t have the integration into Apple Wallet and most certainly don’t use NFC to present them by tapping.
 
and the passport card costs extra on top of a regular passport, so not even all passport holders have those.

They don't force you to buy both.

The passport card was intended for folks who live near Canada or Mexico, but it's great as a universal ID and proof of citizenship. I like it better than a driver's license because it doesn't have your address on it, so you can feel free to use "1060 W. Addison, Chicago" in contexts where they don't really need to know. It also is a square peg for a lot of round holes, so you can produce it as an ID and they can't really complain that the number can't be typed into the "driver's license number" field on their computer.

It's also pretty cheap - $60 for ten years' validity. The only part that sucks is that to get the first one, you have to appear in person at a post office. Renewing, however, is by mail.

You only have to present your driver's license when you're actually operating a motor vehicle, since that's obviously what it is.
 
Is this some kind of novelty in the U.S.?? in Poland we've had a government app (mObywatel), both for iOS and android, which does exactly the same since 2019.. in this app we have: driver's license, ID card, vaccination certificate, car documents/insurance, electronic prescriptions, etc., no one carries any physical documents any longer... and interestingly enough, it's Americans who make fun of Poles by telling Polish jokes.... ;)
Same here in Oz. I haven't carried a credit card or D/L for years. We don't have our D/L on our watches yet tho.
 
I think the novelty is having it integrated into the Apple wallet. Many other countries do the same as what you outlined. However, congrats on the experience!

Have you been able to completely eliminate carrying a physical ID? Are there any instances you still require one? I am curious to see the experience of those out side of the USA who have entirely eliminated their physical wallets.
I live in Australia and I haven't carried a wallet for 3 years plus.
 
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Have you been able to completely eliminate carrying a physical ID? Are there any instances you still require one? I am curious to see the experience of those out side of the USA who have entirely eliminated their physical wallets.
Actually, yes, we don't need our paper/plastic documents on a daily basis. The only time they are necessary is at the airport when we fly abroad.
 
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Actually, yes, we don't need our paper/plastic documents on a daily basis. The only time they are necessary is at the airport when we fly abroad.
Which is exactly the first place where the US is eliminating the physical ID with Apple’s new digital nfc ID. Airports are the first place where they are installing the new tap readers for Apple’s digital ID, starting with the one in Phoenix, AZ.
 
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