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This is legally debatable. If an employer mandates an employee or potential employee to take it it runs the risk of liability that may cause acute, chorionic and/or death.
As opposed to going into the office with covid and infecting random people and running the risk of intubation or worse? That would be a worse liability for a business. And beyond that an unvaccinated person coming into the office and then getting covid. Seems like a lose-lose all the way around.
 
What do you mean by unapproved? The Pfizer vaccine has been authorized for emergency use, went through a trial with 43,448 participants, and is demonstrably doing a good job of inoculating populations to the virus.
Cool, so that means you don’t need to wear a mask, physical distance, isolate or be contagious to other even if vaccinated.
 
As opposed to going into the office with covid and infecting random people and running the risk of intubation or worse? That would be a worse liability for a business.
In a similar fashion to what the NY Governor did. Not really a liability as no company or government is responsible for emerging diseases heck if you went into the office with a flu and others got it and one died the company and you would not be responsible as it cannot be traced to you. People do not live in a vacuum. That person could have been a carrier or got it through other out of work interactions. Now if you worked in an office and you slipped on a puddle of water with no sign then yes the company is liable.
 
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Can't envision what the protocols would be. I'm assuming (which may be a bad assumption), rtw (return to work) might be a mask-on affair to begin with. But CDC will have to update it's guidelines...and that is what everyone will be looking at.
 
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Back in March, Cook said that he "can't wait" for employees to return to the office as person-to-person interactions are essential for generating new ideas. "Innovation isn't always a planned activity," Cook said. "It's bumping into each other over the course of the day and advancing an idea that you just had. And you really need to be together to do that."

Looks like Apple will be closing all office locations except those in Silicon Valley. No more offshoring!
 
I'm really surprised by how many are really questioning if this is necessary?
It's an important question. We have data that answers the question and it shows that these vaccines will end up saving many lives. It's important how you look at it. The vaccine may not be necessary for you personally to stay safe and healthy given your age, health, etc., but it will help you not spread it to others that are at-risk or happen to be one of the unlucky few who are healthy but still experience severe symptoms.
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I keep coming back to the end of the movie World War Z (spoilers) where they find a vaccine to stop the zombie threat. The movie would have ended very differently if everyone said, "what? you found a cure? Yeah, but did you test it? No thanks, I'll risk the zombie bite".

Okay now that I've gotten that out of the way, I will say my company did a vaccine clinic today at the plant and apparently it came too late in the game because most of the employees eligible already got theirs.
 
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the way I see these vaccines is a 50/50 situation, you take the risk if you think at some point an employer or for travelling you'll be required to have it . These vaccines are on trial , nobody knows about what the side effects will be in a couple of years time, they could be ok or something might develop.
I already walked out of two appointments as they offered me Astrazeneca ( I don't want that one) . I have a new appointment coming up for Moderna , I'm still hesitating , if it wasn't for the possible vaccine passport I wouldn't take any as I'm healthy and I don't think I need it but I can't afford to pay multiple test and spend time in self isolation if need it
 
It's an important question. We have data that answers the question and it shows that these vaccines will end up saving many lives. It's important how you look at it. The vaccine may not be necessary for you personally to stay safe and healthy given your age, health, etc., but it will help you not spread it to others that are at-risk or happen to be one of the unlucky few who are healthy but still experience severe symptoms.
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How about the unlucky who got the vaccine and still died.
 
So is this a vaccine or gene therapy. Because I don’t know when I get a tetanus vaccine it does not mean I stay away from rusty objects.
You're comparing apples to oranges here. You can't touch something rusty and then spread tetanus to everyone else in the room with your respiratory particles. If you could spread tetanus to others who haven't had a tetanus shot identically to how you can spread COVID, you'd be following all of the same precautions. Or at least I hope you would be.
 
I got the pfizer vaxx, pretty easy, I work in news, heard all the angles. I'm excited by the fact that it's mRNA tech and new, and exited about all the future vaxx ideas. Def understand the hesitation, some family members aren't doing it, but yeah, data seems to show it's working.

This is a great vid that covers the technology

I probably have more friends/co-workers that have gotten vax than haven't gotten vax, so that led me to also believe that it's safe. Of course we don't know any long term effects BUT the way the vax is built and the tech used, it should be fine. Of course insert "I am Legend" warning here. lol.

My office isn't planning on heading back to in person until 2022 which is great, but allowed us to make our own decisions and there hasn't been pressure either way, they are also paying us for time to take the vaxx and recovery time as well.
 
You're comparing apples to oranges here. You can't touch something rusty and then spread tetanus to everyone else in the room with your respiratory particles. If you could spread tetanus to others who haven't had a tetanus shot identically to how you can spread COVID, you'd be following all of the same precautions. Or at least I hope you would be.
Fair enough, can you get the flu vaccine and still get ill, die and also be contagious and possibly get others sick and some may also die.
 
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I got the pfizer vaxx, pretty easy, I work in news, heard all the angles. I'm excited by the fact that it's mRNA tech and new, and exited about all the future vaxx ideas. Def understand the hesitation, some family members aren't doing it, but yeah, data seems to show it's working.

I probably have more friends/co-workers that have gotten vax than haven't gotten vax, so that led me to also believe that it's safe. Of course we don't know any long term effects BUT the way the vax is built and the tech used, it should be fine. Of course insert "I am Legend" warning here. lol.

My office isn't planning on heading back to in person until 2022 which is great, but allowed us to make our own decisions and there hasn't been pressure either way, they are also paying us for time to take the vaxx and recovery time as well.
Labours laws in the place you live must not care about employees as some nations provide sick leave even if you don’t get the vaccine and recovering from any illness.
 
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