Apple Launches Guide for Android Users Switching to iPhone

[wovel]

you should not need a guide when you plug in an android device to your PC or Mac it becomes an external drive allowing you to look in all the folders to transfer things from the phone to the computer unlike iPhone

You just wrote part of a guide...

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I know someone at work who's switching so this might be useful for him.

Personally though, while I considered it, I ended up sticking with Android for my phone (got a moto g 4g since I wanted 4g support).

For various reasons I could see me ending up not being happy with the iPhone which I've found out from the iPad I bought instead for my iOS needs e.g. App store restrictions, certain apps missing or inferior, etc.

If by next year ios 9/Apple improves on them (or Android gets worse) I might switch but until then....

Which apps do you use that are missing or inferior?

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All the phones lag, including nexus phones. So do iPhone's. Anyone who says they don't is lying.

My 5s doesn't lag and I'm not lying. I am not sure why you chose to call me a liar, but it was quite rude. I doubt you have ever even seen my phone in person. How can you know if it lags or not?

I would appreciate an apology. If you are suffering some regret over a purchasing decision, just say so. Don't attack the integrity of others just because they made better choices.

 

[Trapezoid]

My 5s doesn't lag and I'm not lying. I am not sure why you chose to call me a liar, but it was quite rude. I doubt you have ever even seen my phone in person. How can you know if it lags or not?

I would appreciate an apology. If you are suffering some regret over a purchasing decision, just say so. Don't attack the integrity of others just because they made better choices.

It's hard to believe that a device has been invented that suffers no hiccups, lags ever. Ironically, there were people back in the Motorola droid 1 days who also emphatically stated that their phone never lagged.

There is plenty of evidence online that the 5s suffers from lag, just like android phones do. The point wasn't to insult, not sure why you got so defensive about it? There is no perfect device.

 

[wovel]

And I'm amused by the Apple rage. I'm not sure what your point is.

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The degraded performance of Android devices is mostly due to the JVM they use for applications called Dalvik. It's not too good with resources. Rebooting the device clears up the funk.

They're working on fixing that with a new Java virtual machine called ART, or Android Runtime. Devices with 4.4 can activate it now, but it will be official starting with Android L and the new devices that are released with the new OS on it.

So that will help the 5-10% of existing users that get to run 4.4.4. The rest should switch to iPhone and avoid this problem in the future. Moving to iOS will get them on a platform with a proven record of updates and support for devices up to 4 years old.

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It's hard to believe that a device has been invented that suffers no hiccups, lags ever. Ironically, there were people back in the Motorola droid 1 days who also emphatically stated that their phone never lagged.

There is plenty of evidence online that the 5s suffers from lag, just like android phones do. The point wasn't to insult, not sure why you got so defensive about it? There is no perfect device.

I was not defensive. You said if I claim my phone doesn't lag I am lying. I have used my 5s for a year and not had any lag. I am not lying. I am not insulted. I am more confused why someone would attack the integrity of people that had a different experience from videos they have seen on the Internet.

Seems pretty weak to me. If you had said you had seen videos of iPhones lagging on the Internet I would believe you. Instead you said anyone that claims to use an iPhone without lag was lying.

 

[Trapezoid]

I was not defensive. You said if I claim my phone doesn't lag I am lying. I have used my 5s for a year and not had any lag. I am not lying. I am not insulted. I am more confused why someone would attack the integrity of people that had a different experience from videos they have seen on the Internet.

Seems pretty weak to me. If you had said you had seen videos of iPhones lagging on the Internet I would believe you. Instead you said anyone that claims to use an iPhone without lag was lying.

There is no point in continuing this. I'll stand by what I said, and you can stand by what you say. Thanks.

 

[Iconoclysm]

There is no point in continuing this. I'll stand by what I said, and you can stand by what you say. Thanks.

You really shouldn't stand by what you're saying there, he's the one with proof in his hands. Add me to the list as well. I have never seen the interface stutter or lag on me, I will go watch a video or two "proving" that the 5S lags to see what some people are calling lag. But I'm pretty sure they mean simple load times.

 

[Trapezoid]

You really shouldn't stand by what you're saying there, he's the one with proof in his hands. Add me to the list as well. I have never seen the interface stutter or lag on me, I will go watch a video or two "proving" that the 5S lags to see what some people are calling lag. But I'm pretty sure they mean simple load times.

I'm speaking in the general sense that all electronics will exhibit a hiccup at some point in time. Doesn't mean it's debilitating and makes the device unusable or even that it's some sustained lag that's always present.

Its hard for me to believe when people, android or ios, say they have never had any problem ever with their device when there are known issues with said device. My g3 is mostly smooth but will lag sometimes, my wifes 5s is much smoother than my g3 but it also lags sometimes. When someone says no never it becomes hard to take seriously

Like I said, it's pointless to continue because you guys will stick with what you say and I'll stick with what I say.

 

[zipa]

I'll be you a dollar that Tim Cook will announce ex-Android switcher numbers in the January earnings call.

Where would he get those from?

 

[melendezest]

Two things for me. First, I don't use iTunes much for music. I have Match, and usually either play my music directly from ATV, or I Airplay. Second, I do use the TV shows, Movies and Audiobooks sections of iTunes a lot, so I guess I'd rather put up with the kludge of iTunes than the kludge of having to go to three or four different apps. Just my $.02.

You don't have to suffer through the "kludge" on the phone, though, since they are separate there, no?

I wish it was like that on the Mac, but it won't happen.

To be fair, I've yet to find a suitable alternative to iTunes on the Mac. Perhaps I'm just used to it.

Any recommendations, anyone?

 

[GeneralChang]

I know some users want to be fed "like chimpanzees", no offense, and are completely passive, but a "professional mode" wouldn't hurt, like OS X

Anyway, I don't find files in iCloud, I find files in a folder which is somehow synchronised to iCloud, iCloud doesn't have a physical meaning as a server, it's an abstract concept, because if I delete pictures from the streaming album in my iphone they will disappear (we suppose) from the server but I can't backup them in any other folder so they're organised. And I can upload only the files they allow me to!? How is that? And why some pictures taken or downloaded sometimes synchronise right and others don't, and if don't you can't do anything about it. Or try to find that files via your mac. It's incoherent and, paradoxically, tremendously complex.

The other day I spent no less than 20 minutes trying to copy a folder full of pictures from my mac to my iphone. I had to copy then by choosing to synchronise that folder via iTunes, it seems there isn't any other way. And then, I tried to erase them from my iPhone, and I couldn't delete that folder!! It's absurd!! I had to synchronise again after deleting the pictures in the folder which was on my mac¿?¿? who designed this? It's the most stupid thing I've seen in my whole life, at first I resisted to believe such an absurd way could be the only. I have an engineering degree for god's sake and all this system is supposed to be like this to make it easier... NO

You use the phrase “some users.” I think the phrase you were looking for is “most users.” Power users are in the minority, and on mass market consumer devices, are often ignored.

 

[rdlink]

You don't have to suffer through the "kludge" on the phone, though, since they are separate there, no?..

I don't watch TV shows or movies on my phone. Just don't find it a pleasing experience. I use Audible's app for audiobooks. Since Amazon bought Audible and Apple got into the business of selling a la carte audiobooks via iTunes I can't get my Audiobooks to sync up in iTunes Match. So I find it easier to just listen to them directly from Audible's app than to sync my iPhone to iTunes to get them.

 

[SockRolid]

Where would he get those from?

Oh, I dunno. I guess the exact number of Android switchers buying iPhone 6-es isn't important.
The most important numbers will be Samsung's quarterly losses going forward.
(In their mobile technology group, or whatever they call it.)

 

[melendezest]

I don't watch TV shows or movies on my phone. Just don't find it a pleasing experience. I use Audible's app for audiobooks. Since Amazon bought Audible and Apple got into the business of selling a la carte audiobooks via iTunes I can't get my Audiobooks to sync up in iTunes Match. So I find it easier to just listen to them directly from Audible's app than to sync my iPhone to iTunes to get them.

What I meant to point out is that the one iTunes for everything may not be the best idea, and even Apple itself is split on this since they're not consistent between iOS and OS X.

 

[rdlink]

What I meant to point out is that the one iTunes for everything may not be the best idea, and even Apple itself is split on this since they're not consistent between iOS and OS X.

I understand what you mean, and you have a point. I was just speaking to the reason why I don't have a problem with iTunes on the Mac being an all in one app, while the iPhone is not.

I guess another part of Apple's reasoning in this regard could be the fact that iTunes is available in Windows, also. If they split it up on the Mac, the Windows version of iTunes and the Mac version would turn into two different animals, or they'd have to write more apps for Windows...

 

[psxndc]

The performance of the android devices goes worse with the time, both long and short term. Short term, you can't probably keep an android smartphone running properly (heavy use) for a week if you don't restart or turn it off each few days. Long term, they keep getting slower and slower up to a certain point, I suppose it's because when you uninstall an app some files and config keep on the system and create some conflicts.

The iPhone fascinates me because mine hasn't been restarted or turned off since I bought it (10 months ago) and it goes as lovely as always.

[Citation needed]. I've had several Android phones and have never had performance problems like you described, short or long term. I'm not disputing your claim on the iPhone bit - when I switched back to iPhone both times I never had a problem leaving them on, but I've also never had issues with the Android phones either.

But by all means, supply something from a 3rd party that backs up your assertion. Alternatively you could just admit you're full of it.

 

[tevion5]

Well, its also apps not being able to use content already in other apps... If I have several 3rd party media players, I have to upload content to them individually...

Indeed, that is inconvenient.

 

[truimagz]

iTunes

I have been thinking of picking up an iPhone since they got bigger screens. But I got out once I saw iTunes was still needed. If you want to know why here are my reasons....

When I use iTunes to put music on my phone it often makes duplicates on my pc.

When I use iTunes to put music on my phone I can no longer use any other computer to put more songs on or take songs off.

When I use iTunes to add songs I can not take them off to another pc or phone.

When I use iTunes to add music to my phone I lose all control over those songs in the future and can not do anything with them but put them on an ios device.

There is more, but I don't like not being able to plug my phone into whoevers computer and add photos, movies, music or whatever I want. Being tied to one computer and all my files being locked is insane.

When I go to grandma's house I like to copy all my photos and videos to her machine, I can't do that with iPhone. Same when I go to my mom's she likes to give me photos and videos. Just pluggin in my phone and dragging and dropping is the best.

Also, I use my phone for my xbox alot as an external harddrive so I can bring my game saves with me and my xbox profile.

Also, occasionally I'll screen share to a monitor to edit docs, and ios doesn't support a mouse, that means I cant remote in to work or use the vpn clients or citrix that I like to use when I have to do something quickly.

Last thing really though, I dont understand the point of a larger screen if it doesnt unlock extra functionality, like multiwindow or something. being big just for big sake seems silly.

Oh one more thing, not being able to set default apps for tasks is a huge pain.

 

[Tech198]

Why Not ... Apple's already done this with "Switch to the Mac."
Their are just saying "We're better, than you."

Now, if users saw articles online (not from the same company) , that would be different.

I don't mind these, but u do get to a point where, "now your just being to happy"

 

[the-msa]

Moving to iOS will get them on a platform with a proven record of updates and support for devices up to 4 years old.

My 4 year old nexus s runs kitkat just fine ^^

 

[iHateMacs]

I feel sorry for people like you tbh. Like, you really have nothing better to do than to go on forums for things you hate and rant about how much you hate them.

LOL and you have nothing better than to reply?

I've had 4 iPhones, 2 Apple laptops and an iPad and I still use and love my Mac Pro along with my work Mac Mini so I am very much an Apple person.

I think I am entitled to comment.

It wasn't for nothing that I switched to Android. I was just saying that the 6+ isn't answering any one MY reasons for switching so I am surprised that Tim is thinking this document will get people switching back in any great numbers.

The 6+ Looks like a great phone, I am not saying anything else. Just that it's silly for Tim to think that the larger screen is the ONLY thing keeping people on Android.

I am not a hater.

 

[psxndc]

I am not a hater.

*ahem* Not to point out the obvious, but your username kinda implies otherwise. Just sayin'

 

[iHateMacs]

*ahem* Not to point out the obvious, but your username kinda implies otherwise. Just sayin'

I wish I could change it.

I registered here to find help sorting out a website I was designing that was having problems with Mac users.

So, when I came here I hated them because of the trouble it was causing me.

In the end I bought a Powerbook G4 so I could see the problems for myself and fix them. I fell in love with the my G4 as despite its age it ran silky smooth.

Since then I have never looked back and although I have to use some Windows PCs at work i consider myself a dyed in the wool Mac person.

Despite the name on here, I do not hate Macs at all.

I may have switched to Android for my phone and tablet but I do not hate the iPhone 6, I just prefer what Android and the Note 3 does for me.

 

[psxndc]

You're preaching to the choir, man. I love OS X but hate iOS. Macs all the way but Android for my phone.