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Apple Launches iTunes Match with Release of iTunes 10.5.1 [Updated]

ID Tags

I'm constantly renaming and organizing almost every song I get. Over the last several years, I've become very OCD in ID tagging... even to the smallest details like using 'and' instead of '&' (unless its a group or duo), putting featured artist after the name of the track, putting the remixer or version of the song in parenthesis after the name of the track, to using 'feat.' instead of 'featuring'.

Is all this work I've done going to disappear after iTunes Match scans my library?
 
I have 2424 songs in my library, "updated" Match and so far it says it's checking only 2411 of those. When it check it the first time, half of those it said weren't in iTunes and it started uploading half my fricken library. :mad:

Sorry, if I wanted a service where I just upload the tracks I have I would have gone with Google, as it's free. But since I'd probably spend about 2 weeks uploading 17 gigs of data over a 50K upload, I thought I'd go with Apple. So far, I'm underwhelmed.

It's skipping whole albums that are in iTunes. Pink Floyd's The Wall? Come on, it's right there...none showing up in Match. The Band's "Music from the Big Pink"? Yep, right there in the iTunes store, but nope for Match seeing it. Then I have albums where some songs are on Match and others aren't....yet they're all there in iTunes.

So...what exactly am I paying $25 bucks for when I could have uploaded everything to some other service...because Match wants to upload 1211 of my songs! Seriously and 95% of those ARE ON iTUNES. :mad:

Maybe I should just give this another week and start over.
 
How would the following scenario work:

Say, I have a 40GB iMatch library, but I only want to allocate around 15GB on my iPhone to music. If I have a couple of different 10GB playlists, is there a way to easily replace one playlist with another? Will I have to manually delete all items every time I want to locally store different playlists?
 
efktd said:
I'm constantly renaming and organizing almost every song I get. Over the last several years, I've become very OCD in ID tagging... even to the smallest details like using 'and' instead of '&' (unless its a group or duo), putting featured artist after the name of the track, putting the remixer or version of the song in parenthesis after the name of the track, to using 'feat.' instead of 'featuring'.

Is all this work I've done going to disappear after iTunes Match scans my library?
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And again, no, your metadata is retained.
 
milo said:
I totally agree with you about not wanting to worry about those things, and I didn't really worry about those things before but this new system is coming at the expense of some downgrades.

Would it be so hard for devices to be able to detect if they are on the network with the home library (which is exactly what they are doing right now) and copy over the local file if that drive is available and from the cloud if it's not? Seems like something Apple should be able to handle, either sync it from the cloud or the local version depending on what is available to the device. That would be consistent to me as a user and not make me have to think about drives but not make copying files much slower, it seems like Apple is being dogmatic instead of doing what would work best.

Not to mention that things like podcasts and videos still have to be synced so it's not like syncing is going away.
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Well, it should be possible for them to grab from a locally networked PC, but I've already seen how "well" they were able to make that work for Wifi Sync, which on Windows is all but useless, so I'll pass.

I've also been downloading podcasts directly to my phone for a long time rather than getting them from my PC. I hate iTunes and can't wait to just stop using the damn thing alltogether.

I imagine they'll let you subscribe to podcasts through the phone directly soon as well. Time will tell:)
 
One hour in and iTunes has only reached here...
 

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Slowwwwwwwwww

Step 1 finished pretty quick. I've got just over 10,000 songs in my library, but it's been "matching" for two hours now and it hasn't even done 1000 songs. I'm hoping this is because the servers are flooded and that it will ease up eventually. I hate waiting. :mad:
 
Jefe said:
So does it remove the DRM from older iTunes tracks without having to pay to update them to itunes+?
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Yes. I just tested this. Once it's matched, you do the scary thing and delete the item from your library. Instead of vanishing, the iTunes Match cloud appears next to the item and you DL it. Once done, the item is no longer a proetcted AAC file but instead a purchased AAC file. No DRM and 256kbps. Stored Locally. I had about $50.00 worth of stuff that was eligible for an itunes+ update. This just saved me the cash.

To be safe when testing, all I did is renamed the file in the music folder and deleted the item from the library. I wanted to make sure that if iTunes match wasn't working I could add the song back into my library again! There was no need, turns out, but I like to be on the safe side. ;)
 
STEP 3, uploading your unmatched tunes to the cloud. PAINFULLY slow, even on my fast connection.
 
I don't think iTunes match is for me personally. I have well over 25K songs and I don't need to access them all wherever I am. Whatever I want to listen to, I can easily fit in my iPhone and switch up via playlists.

That being said - if the average MR poster is Mac savvy - one has to wonder how iTunes Match is going to play out amongst the general public if people in here have so many questions/issues/etc

I think Apple might be in for a bumpy ride for the next few months.

I can also see classes being offered at the Apple store about "Match"
 
maybe its just me, but i dont understand the point of these type of services. Google Music, Itunes match. You get your mp3's that you could just transfer to your device, but instead you upload them to a server, and then stream YOUR stuff to the device. I understand some people have gigantic music collections that they need at their disposal at all times, but....

Why not get a service like Rdio? You get to listen to ALL kinds of music. stuff you own and stuff you've never heard.
 
So is it downloaded to my OS devices such that after a year I can cancel and still have all the downloaded music stay on each device?.........thanks
 
Trouble with iTunesMatch

Anybody having trouble with iTunes Match. I have the confirmation email but all of my iOS devices insist that I'm not signed up for iTunes Match. Suggestions? Should I "try turning it off and then on again?"
 
So I'm inspired to ask this question....

What do I gain from not Putting the music on my iPhone versus paying them 25$ to download my own music in order to listen to it. It's like being able to download from iTunes without purchasing or something since you already have the track?
 
blackburn said:
Had to manually update it. iTunes match ain't for me. I'm not downgrading my lossless collection.
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While the match feature might not bode well, you could still upload those to have a back up.

Tones2 said:
Does anyone know if the downloaded replacement songs maintain your meta-data (lyrics, genres, etc)? I've asked this question continuously for several months with no answer from the beta testers.

Tony
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It should improve the meta data.

And for those who say, "it's not matching songs I know I have" your meta data is probably the issue.

As most people will have tracks that go back to the Napster days, this is where its sticky.

Say you have That's The Way Love Goes by Janet Jackson from the album Janet... how does this display in a music app for you? If iTunes Matches it, it will fill in any blanks: artist, album, year, genre, etc. Though your Napster download could look like this:
Janet Jackson Thats the way luv goes and maybe not list an album.
*Love being spelled Luv can cause the track to not match or retrieve the artwork, and a missing album title completely can do the same thing at times.

This is also the problem when people cry that iTunes doesn't match their artwork. It needs to match iTunes spelling for artist, song, and album!
If iTunes doesn't have that album, it still knows it exists, and will then fill in artwork with a greatest hits or something because it can match the meta data to a legit release.

So I can attest to how well iTunes Match will perform in recognition of everyones pirated tracks that don't proper descriptions in the meta data, but if you have any issues you're going to probably need to use the "get info" button on a lot of tracks, and spend some time fixing your meta data.

For people who have stolen 90% of their libraries that were not purchased in iTunes (which is probably about 70% of the population 40 and under) this is when you'll wish you'd have cleaned up those file names as you downloaded them
 
Dudes,

If you ALL do it at the same time don't you think it will be just a wee bit slower than normal? :confused:


It will be there in a few days, just load up your iThingies with as much music as you can and weather out the atrocity of not having iTunes Match for a few more days. You can do it I have faith in you all ;)
 
LOL! Out of 6000+ songs, it only matched 1000+?
 

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HeyGreggie said:
So I'm inspired to ask this question....

What do I gain from not Putting the music on my iPhone versus paying them 25$ to download my own music in order to listen to it. It's like being able to download from iTunes without purchasing or something since you already have the track?
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It essentially legalizes every pirated song you've ever downloaded. (For some of us, that is a lot of tunes!)

It will allow you to download a 256kbs version of the songs it matches (thing you did not buy in itunes), which is probably a much better sound quality than things you sifted from Kazaa and other P2P networks.

The newly downloaded track is no recognized as a legal copy by the RIAA, so they won't sue you're butt for piracy.

So if one would have illegally downloaded say.... 5,000 songs (and thats not even a stretch!) they legally just purchased them for $25, and you have a back up in the cloud to boot if you should ever have a drive failure.

edit: I want to say, I think many of us downloaded things we really did own from P2P sites. Things from cassette or vinyl. Maybe there is better karama with those?
 
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