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Apple Launches Logic Pro X with Virtual Drummer and Flex Pitch
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calaverasgrande
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Well it looks like my ancient Waldorf Edition plugin (which was only $75 when I bought it!) is still alive in a fully 64 bit version as of the most recent update.
It's silly to fret over such a cheap plugin. But I absolutely worship the PPG 2.3 plugin and the "Attack" drum machine. Nothing else out there sounds remotely like these. Though I will be the first to admit I must be a masochist...neither of these is easy to use.
It's silly to fret over such a cheap plugin. But I absolutely worship the PPG 2.3 plugin and the "Attack" drum machine. Nothing else out there sounds remotely like these. Though I will be the first to admit I must be a masochist...neither of these is easy to use.
Schtumple
macrumors 601
- To use with previous versions of Mac OS X:
1. Localize Logic Pro X.app in the Application folder.
2. Right-click on it and click on "Show Package Content"
3. Using a text editor open the file called "info.plist"
4. Using the function "Find" look up for the word "version"
5. Right at the end of the .plist document you will find these lines:
LSMinimumSystemVersion
10.8.4
6. Just edit the second line modifying the minimum OS X system version (for example: 10.7.4)
7. Save the new .plist document and enjoy Logic Pro X!
This should help you with that, I don't know whether it would run with Snow Leopard, as this guide is designed to allow it to run on Lion, but I guess it could be worth a shot if you're desperate? Or if you just have $200 to blow on something that might not work.
calaverasgrande
macrumors 65816
xbjllb
macrumors 65816
You DO realize in one post you've completely obliterated Apple's strategy for releasing this in the first place.... to force the millions of pro music users still using Snow Leopard because of the LEGION of sound "clicking" problems in Lion/Mountain Lion et al into the newest iOS/OS concoction? (while at the same time FINALLY acknowledging over in the Apple forums that there IS INDEED a problem and INDEED they're FINALLY taking a look at it).
The ONLY time I've ever upgraded the OS is when Logic demanded it. Luckily, the last thing in the world I need is a virtual "drummer". (That can't really follow prerecorded tracks worth a ****.)
Thank and bless you good sir! I hope it works.
P.S. That said and done, I AM glad Apple released this. For everyone ELSE. I have a feeling that Snow Leopard will never be going away.
Wild-Bill
macrumors 68030
No Go on Snow Leopard
Already tried that. There are a large number of Lion/Mt. Lion system ibrary dependencies. I tried copying most of them into the Snow Leopard system library, but it still would not work. Finally I just gave up.
Already tried that. There are a large number of Lion/Mt. Lion system ibrary dependencies. I tried copying most of them into the Snow Leopard system library, but it still would not work. Finally I just gave up.
Schtumple
macrumors 601
Ok, well there we have it guys, I did think it was going to be a stretch to get it running on SL. I guess Lion is the absolute minimum.
Sort of
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I can follow these instructions on my rMBP which is on 10.8.4 but on the Mac Pro on 10.8.3 it would not allow it to even be downloaded from the Mac App Store.
Copying it over from one machine to the other obviously doesn't work either.
Any suggestions for that besides "update to 10.8.4"?
I can follow these instructions on my rMBP which is on 10.8.4 but on the Mac Pro on 10.8.3 it would not allow it to even be downloaded from the Mac App Store.
Copying it over from one machine to the other obviously doesn't work either.
Any suggestions for that besides "update to 10.8.4"?
Schtumple
macrumors 601
Why won't copying it over from one machine to the other won't work...? As far as I was aware there wasn't any actual DRM in the App Store downloaded apps.
It shows up in Finder greyed out with a little circle with a line through it. Am I doing something wrong?
Schtumple
macrumors 601
That's odd, must be a system thing though as you have the same iTunes accounts on both machines, right?. Does it even run at all/what error does it come up with?
Clicking on the app, nothing would happen at all. Using 'Launch Pad', it wouldn't show up there.
I also attempted the .plist trick, and that changed nothing.
I simply updated to 10.8.4 and its downloading now.
calaverasgrande
macrumors 65816
did you check your security and privacy settings?
By default it only allows apps downloaded from the app store.
Schtumple
macrumors 601
Well there we are, enjoy LPX, it's a fun bundle to mess with so far!
Totally forgot about this, such a lame security feature, I get why it's there, but it's still lame.
Looks like users have been finding ways to customize colors. There's even talk of someone creating an app to provide an interface for doing it.
http://www.logicprohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=97685
demodave
macrumors 6502
I'm a bit in this mindset of commenting today, and I realize that I am late to this story (and probably a bit slow to my eventual purchase), but this seems like and incredibly good price, and the iPad "remote" seems like a really cool idea. My biggest point, though, is the price, because, to me, $200 seems accessible enough that it won't scare a lot of people off. I certainly don't make money off making music, but I like to toy around with it. I'm very seriously considering picking it up.
You DO realize in one post you've completely obliterated Apple's strategy for releasing this in the first place.... to force the millions of pro music users still using Snow Leopard because of the LEGION of sound "clicking" problems in Lion/Mountain Lion et al into the newest iOS/OS concoction? (while at the same time FINALLY acknowledging over in the Apple forums that there IS INDEED a problem and INDEED they're FINALLY taking a look at it).
The ONLY time I've ever upgraded the OS is when Logic demanded it. Luckily, the last thing in the world I need is a virtual "drummer". (That can't really follow prerecorded tracks worth a ****.)
Thank and bless you good sir! I hope it works.
P.S. That said and done, I AM glad Apple released this. For everyone ELSE. I have a feeling that Snow Leopard will never be going away.
Is Apple working on this "feedback" issue when recording live audio. The weird thing is that the clicking isn't there on LP9 just LPX.
MowingDevil
macrumors 68000
Listen, I'm not going to bother tearing your post apart as you tried to do to mine. In fact, I shouldn't even respond after the mature tone you started with....but I came across this notification well after the fact.
You either get what I'm saying or you don't. Considering your experience in photography you should understand. The bottom line is Apple is certainly focusing more on their hobbyist market which is fine but they've totally neglected their pro users. It probably won't be long when they've dropped all their computers/OS X and just sell phones & iPads. The writing is on the wall. Jobs almost canned all pro line Macs at one point. They obviously don't care about the artistic community anymore. They care about being no.1 and selling more & more to all the mall rats. They could do both if they wanted. Why not have high end hardware & software? Ya sure it is a bit of a loss leader but they'd make it up in the App Store.
I find nothing wrong w/ Garageband for what it is.....my problem is dumbing down everything so no skill is required. Just hit a button and everything is done for you or fixed. If that sounds elitist to you, whatever. When I switched from Cubase & ProTools to Logic I loved what they were doing. Loaded w/ sounds and virtual instruments. All those loops didn't bother me in the slightest, they were great. This new drummer thing is just a gimmick....as are all the icons for the different instruments. Even their mixer faders were a little different before, now they're moving Logic more & more into skeuomorphism while the rest of the iOS moves away from it.
There are some things I like about the new Logic look....others I can't stand. The way its going I'm starting to regret switching to Logic. I'll be sticking w/ 9 for now, I've done alot of good work on it and will continue to. For now.
Logic X isn't dumbed down at all, that implies taking out functionality from previous versions and they certainly haven't done that. Of course they want to make the app easier to use and make it appeal to more people, but that's not the same as dumbing it down.
And the drummer tool isn't a gimmick at all, composers use loops all the time and this is just another (and in my opinion, in a number of ways, better) way of creating drum tracks quickly. Guys who do music for a living often are on extremely tight deadlines (and low budgets), and drummer is a great option to have. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it a toy or make it useless to real users.
And the drummer tool isn't a gimmick at all, composers use loops all the time and this is just another (and in my opinion, in a number of ways, better) way of creating drum tracks quickly. Guys who do music for a living often are on extremely tight deadlines (and low budgets), and drummer is a great option to have. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it a toy or make it useless to real users.
MowingDevil
macrumors 68000
C'mon. Loops are fine, I'm talking about "Gavin, Nikki, Jesse & Rose". Not dumbed down at all? Give me a break. More tools to compensate for lack of skill.
Not at all. Have you even tried out the feature? If you're OK with using loops, you should have no objection to the drummer, it's just a more advanced way of customizing loops. And if you're hung up over what they named the different settings, you need to get over it and start judging tools based on what they do and not how they look.
MowingDevil
macrumors 68000
Just because tools are made easier doesn't mean they become useless or less pro.
Sure things in LPX need to be updated to make more use of the new features.
Some plugins are dumbed down in the sense that its more garageband then working with Logic. Apple needs to work on that. X was way to minimal imo after all those years.
"More tools to compensate for lack of skill."
Thats what every human does. We use tools cause we can't do it on our own. Plus dealing with deadlines makes people wanna use computers to fasten their workflow. Doesn't everybody already cheat in that sense when using computers etc? I think people should use whatever works best for them.
Sure things in LPX need to be updated to make more use of the new features.
Some plugins are dumbed down in the sense that its more garageband then working with Logic. Apple needs to work on that. X was way to minimal imo after all those years.
"More tools to compensate for lack of skill."
Thats what every human does. We use tools cause we can't do it on our own. Plus dealing with deadlines makes people wanna use computers to fasten their workflow. Doesn't everybody already cheat in that sense when using computers etc? I think people should use whatever works best for them.