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Is it just me...or do iPod's, iPhones and iPad's have a hidden Firewire 800 port I know nothing about??

From the specs for the new MBP:

With the new Thunderbolt port, you can daisy-chain as many as six devices, including your display, to create a full-fledged workstation. Two USB 2.0 ports (three on the 17-inch MacBook Pro) and a FireWire 800 port let you connect your iPad, iPod, iPhone, digital cameras, and external hard drives.

Your English teacher can help. ;)

They are referring to the USB 2.0 ports, there. The combination of ports let you connect all those devices.
 
Agh, please stop with the battery complaints. They changed their measurements, but it's still the same life.

Which laptop didn't get changed today? The MacBook.
What was the MacBook's previous battery life? 10 hours, same as 13" MBP.
What is the MacBook's newly listed life? 7 hours

This means that 7 new hours = 10 old hours. QED.

good point ;)
Well-observed. Although I did not know they claimed 10hrs for the MB beforehand..
 
the real question now is, whether to get this minor update, or wait 6 months and get a complete update/redesign. this is my first mb and im the type of person who needs to have the latest and greatest. so, should i wait it out till the next complete update (which will probably be in 6 or so months) or jump on it now and probably kick myself 6 months from now when theres a huge update and im stuck with last generation? :confused: :confused: :confused:

You can't think like that. I bought a Samsung 55" 8000 right when it came out for over $3000, and then it went from edge-lit to local-dimming, and from local-dimming to 3D, now soon to come, 3D to no bezel, etc.

Even though there will be a newer product coming out, you can't think that way. Enjoy the one you bought - if you have an Apple product, you're luckier because they tend to retain the futuristic look years from now. I have a 3G iPad that I bought about 5 months ago, an iMac that I bought 1 year and 3 months ago, and a TV I bought 1 year and 9 months ago. I am still very happy with them and will stick with them until they no longer have the performance or they break.

THEN I will buy a new one.

Don't let Best Buy's Buy Back Program brainwash you into the ridiculous mindset!
 
Sandy Bridge?

I'm curious new CPU spec is one of Sandy Bridge, isn't?

Sorry, I don't know much about hardware.
 
13" Display Resolution

The 13" display is still at 1280x800. The 13" Macbook Air has a 1440x900. I am finding this really hard to understand. This is the only thing keeping me from my first Mac laptop purchase. The 15" is a little to big for my taste. Oh well, maybe next year...
 
I guess I will be waiting for another 300 days to wait a new Macbook Pro

My Macbook Aluminum 2.0 is slow, low battery, and other. I was ready to buy a new 13" mbp but with Intel Graphics 3000 (not nVidia 330M or AMD??!!!), no design revision, screen resolution still 1280x800 :mad: no thanks...

But I interested with 15" mbp. Same battery with 13", AMD graphics card, 1400x900 screen resolution. But still no design revision. And 15" MBP is $1800... i have to spend +700$ from Mbp 13".

I guess I will wait next update or next design revision. I think my current mb is not too old because it has same design with newest mbp :)
 
In theory with Thunderbolt's 10gb/s bandwidth, how many 2560x1600 displays can you daisy chain? My dream is to have 2 maybe 3 of those. I have 3 1920x1200 monitors hooked up to my early 2008 MBP, (one DVI, and the other two using one of those USB to DVI devices - terrible refresh rate but great for static content).

Won't a single 2560x1600 display effectively eat up the majority of that 10gb/s? When I heard about lightpeak, I was excited cause I thought they'd be running a bunch of ports, not just one.

Nobody knows eh? Guess I'll just have to wait to find out :(
 
Agh, please stop with the battery complaints. They changed their measurements, but it's still the same life.

Which laptop didn't get changed today? The MacBook.
What was the MacBook's previous battery life? 10 hours, same as 13" MBP.
What is the MacBook's newly listed life? 7 hours

This means that 7 new hours = 10 old hours. QED.

I thought they'd changed the measurements earlier last year as well?

Not complaining - my 2010 mbp used to report 8-9 hours *often* after a charge. In the past few months, it generally shows 5-6. So, even with a '10 hour life' as rated last year, I'm realistically getting 6-7 out of a charge. Bit of a letdown, but still not bad.

Annoying that they trumpeted it so much last year - and my screen was reporting 9-10 sometimes at first. :/
 
At the bottom where it says configure to order:

Configure to order

* 750GB (5400-rpm) hard drive
* 500GB (7200-rpm) hard drive
* 128GB, 256GB, or 512GB solid-state drive
* Up to 8GB of 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM
* 1680-by-1050 high-resolution glossy display
* 1680-by-1050 high-resolution antiglare display
* Apple Remote
* Apple Mini DisplayPort to DVI Adapter
* Apple Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter
* Apple Mini DisplayPort to VGA Adapter
* MagSafe Airline Adapter
* AppleCare Protection Plan
* Aperture
* Final Cut Express
* Logic Express
* iWork

Im sure theyd charge a pretty penny, but the option is there.
 
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I noticed that the battery life went down to 7 hours in all models. For those of you who have the 2010 13" model, did it really get up to 10 hours of battery?

I have a White Macbook, got it in September when they were advertising 10hrs. You can get to or close to 10 hrs if you have the airport off. If you notice they added a little thing under the 7hrs saying wireless web (I'm pretty sure it wasn't there before, but my memory could be failing me) which is about what I have gotten in actual practice with the airport on.

I don't think anything has changed with the battery they are just adjusting what they are saying because the only way to get the battery life they were previously advertising was to use the machine in a way few people would really use it. Most people are going to be using the web most of the time.
 
Hi,

I see on the website they mention: "or 512GB solid-state drive6".

How does this compare to the 16GB SSD that everyone was hoping for...?
 
Even the 11" MBA has more pixels on screen than the MBP 13". I wonder what segment the latter caters to?

Yeah, the screen on the 13" is the biggest disappointment for me. Even the 13" MBA has better resolution.

I was thinking of unloaded my 2010 13" and getting this one, now I will just wait for the next model.
 
I'm impressed

I know a lot less than most of my other geek friends in here---I am working hard on it though. All in all I am impressed. I had my 2008 macbook unibody with 6GB of RAM and a new battery listed yesterday in the 750 to 850 range. I need to sell it. I want the stock higher end 15'' to drop a 128SSD in and a 750GB 7200 into the optical drive. Bump the RAM to 8 and I can't imagine needing another laptop for at least 4 years---not to say I won't WANT one! I don't do gaming but I do a lot of Handbrake conversions in 1080p and that Quad Core i7 is going to make my 2.4 C2D look like the Dark Ages since HB does utilize all 4 cores.

I've got a nerd boner.
 
PRICE Wrong $$$$ - Upgrades laughable

The Price: $$$$$$$$$ WRONG

The upgrades: Upgrades???? :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

And no matte for the 13''
 
I'm so glad that I bought my 13" for the 2010 refresh when it had a GOOD graphics card in it.

The new 15/17 's look nice though, albeit expensive. Never heard of those nvidia cards before.

that's because they are not cards, and they are not made by nvidia.

In fact, your 13" also does not have a graphics CARD in it.

Given those mistakes, maybe you are also wrong about the relative merits of these machines versus last year's?
 
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