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It's interesting that they focused on the speed of these new machines rather than on the extras. In particular, why not match the resolution of the MacBook Airs along with the Airs cheaper SSD options? I have found the speed improvement for most people is FAR FAR FAR FAR better by adding an SSD rather than increasing the processor speed. Why not focus on the mainstream consumer experience? This is a very odd update given Apple's normal priorities.
 
maybe I'm wrong bit on the apple website it say there is a 512 SSB option. Is that not a good way to go?

512GB SSD is definitely good, provided you can afford it. However, at this moment in time, the 512GB SSDs generally cost way too much that it is not really a best bang for the buck option IMHO.
 
I am waiting for the new MacBook Air 13" (probably October '11). It will include the same nice resolution (unless Apple downgrades like they did with the battery now :eek: ), Thunderbolt port with devices available, SSD and no space-wasting optical drive, Lion etc.

The more I think of it, the MBA becomes more and more attractive. I don't really see any advantages of the MBP over MBA, except CPU speed and an IO port which still lacks devices...

I think I'm with you on this. The 15" BTO's are interesting but expensive. If only the MBA refresh was now.
 
Total lay-person here, so can can somebody explain to me how base model 13" went from 2.4GHz (Intel core) to 2.3GHz (dual core i5)? Isn't that slower? Or does the dual core make it faster than a higher number on Intel core?

Sorry, I'm not as techie as you guys, but my 2006 MBP (2.16GHz intel Core 2) really needs to go, and I want to understand how much better I'm doing, and why I'm not doing as well as I would've before today!

Same with the battery!
 
UK store not showing the new MBPs but the US store is.

Has the UK store been updated?

Kimbie

The UK store is showing the old models with 3-5 business days delivery!? Please don't tell me they're doing a similar rollout as with the iPad. US gets it first and weeks later the UK does. My wallet is itching :(

PLEASE APPLE LET ME THROW MY MONEY AT YOU
 
The update isn't terrible but it certainly solidified my decision to buy the next Imac instead of macbook pro.
 
Except that one would expect that SSD prices would have gone down over time, especially with Apple ordering so much of it for its MBA.

ha we are talking top of the line apple here, its gonna be a hefty purchase regardless if it goes down. But i agree it still should go down for being the same option as in last generation with no improvements.
 
what difference does that make. the cpu is still made by intel, the graphics are still made by ati. just because its in a dell casing its considered bad?

Yes, because anything with an Apple on it, despite most likely being manufactured in a very similar way to the competitor's item and containing the same parts, is somehow still better :confused:

The only thing better about the Apple is that it has OS X on it, though you can technically put that on a dell :)
 
Sorry, but can someone tell is the intel HD graphic thing better than the nvidia 320 on the old one?

Roughly the same. For general use it will be ok.

Look at it this way, the average MBP13 user will mess around on the internet, watch some movies, mess around with some photos & music etc etc etc. The Intel graphics will be adequate for this. It will even manage some basic gaming.

I'd advise people to wait for some reviews/user feedback from early adopters before deciding to part with their cash.
 
the real question now is, whether to get this minor update, or wait 6 months and get a complete update/redesign. this is my first mb and im the type of person who needs to have the latest and greatest. so, should i wait it out till the next complete update (which will probably be in 6 or so months) or jump on it now and probably kick myself 6 months from now when theres a huge update and im stuck with last generation? :confused: :confused: :confused:

I don't know where you're getting a huge update in six months. Macbook Pros are updated about 1 to 1.5 years.
 
Deep down in the Management trenches at Apple - there must be a motto written all over the walls - Don't make the suckers too happy - spare some for the next <iPhone|MacBook|iPad>.
 
Deep down in the Management trenches at Apple - there must be a motto written all over the walls - Don't make the suckers too happy - spare some for the next <iPhone|MacBook|iPad>.

I felt the same when the iphone 3g came out then the iphone 3gs came out a year later with features that could have easily been on the 3g. felt cheated
 
1. doubt it. i've never seen a cracked unibody.
So it doesnt excist? Strange logic, I worked for years with dell and never saw one cracked but I do realise that happens, just like with macbooks, this site contains enough threads about that.


2. it runs OSX and Windows legally.
Again, I have both and I see little value to choose one over the other. The only problkem remains that not all windows software is avaible on OSX, I dont know anything important that doesnt run on windows.


3. resale value determines total cost by allowing one to estimate depreciation
Wich is of nu concern to most people who use there laptop until its broke.

Besides, if it costs 700 less, even with less reslae value you still have more left after 2 years.


your arguments are feeble at best.
Not really , just a bit more openminded.
 
Can someone help me understand the differences between the dualcore i5 and the dualcore i7 on the 13"? I'm mainly familiar with them on the desktop line, not mobile line.

So the only advantages the i7 has over the i5 are the increased clockspeed and more cache? Does the i7 hyperthreading support more "theoretical" cores or are both CPUs set at 2 physical/2 theoretical cores?
 
Did you notice how people in the UK always complain how expensive Macs are, because of 20% VAT, but when he tries to show how good a value this Dell is, he quotes the price without VAT?

£1,240 for 1.6 GHz. I think the £999 MBP 13" eats his Dell for breakfast :D

Total Net: £1,086.76
VAT( 15%): £153.69
Total: £1,240.45

he did include VAT in his quote. i dont know how a new core i5 compares to a old core i7 but he did say his laptop was 2 years old.
 
Prices are ... thank you for the fish ...

Bye, Apple.

Apple has done a few decent upgrades, including new Thunderbolt, new CPU, Sandybridge, GPU.

but....

1- Thunderbolt has no devices yet compatible, just promises of devices to come
2- No USB 3, Having Thunderbolt shouldn't preclude having USB 3 (apple is being cheap with paying for patents and upgrading this.
3- No Blu-Ray, Sorry at this point many people want the option for this. even to pay an extra $100-150 for a BD drive. Again Apple is being cheap.

In the new Apple paradigm of upgrading only part of the tech it uses, over hyping some of it, it feels like smoke and mirrors to contain costs and raise margins and potential for profits from itunes, app stores and more.

so.... i may be following you to the exit. Grabbing my towel. Wishing Apple understood the true meaning of 42.
 
I bought a 17 " c2 on ebay for $ 725, put a bigger HD in it $ 100.
and it all works great for what I do. That was a $ 2,500 plus machine new)

Bought some 15's too that way

So, I will be waiting for all the "must have the latest" to dump their i7's etc.
to pick one up cheap.

Most of the "spec" complainers have gotten along with their MBP's (as in doing what they have to do with their MBP) and now the world caves in because it doesn't have this and it doesn't have that and it costs too much and it doesn't do what I do and it doesn't come in white and I can't mow the lawn with it etc.etc.?

These are great machines.

Yes. My 2010 C2D 13" MBP is plenty fast for me and will be for a few more years.
 
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