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The Macbook Pro frame alone may be worth it because it houses the components. Sturdy, heat dispersing, durable...it protects the components inside. I know someone with an XPS that has cracks and some keys fell off. Yeah thats quality.
Like I know people with cracked macbooks (yes unibody) . Unibody is more a gimmick then anything that is really very effective.


The OS is designed to work specifically with the components installed...the same can never be said for Windows machines. Plus I can run Windows and OS X on the same machine if needed.
Windows is just as much supports the hardware it runs on, its all generic .


IMO any price premium placed on Macs over Windows laptops is because of the quality build, and the symbiotic relationship between OS X and the hardware chosen. You get what you pay for and the XPS, while not a bad laptop, isn't built like a Macbook Pro.

And as I always point out the resale value of Macs tends to be very good. Even just a $500 resale value 3 years down the line is $500 off the price of a new Mac, combined with a student discount suddenly the price "gap" between Dell and Mac is a lot smaller.

Why would the combination of something cost more? Shouldnt it cost less, after all osx doesnt have to support 100+GPU/CPU's and HDD's .


OSX has also lost any edge it had since windows 7 .

As for resale: yes but for people who use there laptops until its broken, this doesnt matter.
 
I'm definitely going for the high end 15" in about a month, once I have holiday. I was going to do the entry level 13" since most of my work I do at home and have an external display, but, if I'm upgrading from a 3 yr old mbp, I might as well indulge myself.
 
Ssd?

Maybe I missed something.... But the 13-inch has SSD as a BTO in a 512gb size. It is uber-expensive, but does this mean, if you choose the SSD - we will get even more of a performance boost for some things?
 

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what I don't get is thunderbolt-port looks exactly the same as the mini-display port!!
So where is the minidisplayport gone to!
and what about external displays! like the acd! how would one connect to them?

i think it works for both thunderbolt and mini-display.
 
maybe I'm wrong bit on the apple website it say there is a 512 SSB option. Is that not a good way to go?
 
So how do I use an external monitor and a lightpeak device at the same time?

Articles say it supports daisy chaining up to 6 devices. I am sure there is a cable coming out for that. But don't worry; I doubt there are many devices that support lightpeak yet.
 
Like I know people with cracked macbooks (yes unibody) . Unibody is more a gimmick then anything that is really very effective.



Windows is just as much supports the hardware it runs on, its all generic .




Why would the combination of something cost more? Shouldnt it cost less, after all osx doesnt have to support 100+GPU/CPU's and HDD's .


OSX has also lost any edge it had since windows 7 .

As for resale: yes but for people who use there laptops until its broken, this doesnt matter.

1. doubt it. i've never seen a cracked unibody.
2. it runs OSX and Windows legally.
3. resale value determines total cost by allowing one to estimate depreciation

your arguments are feeble at best.
 
Has there always been a price difference for the Apple Care option between the Mac Book and the Mac Book Pro? I just got this off of Apple's website.

MacBook / MacBook Air / 13-inch MacBook Pro - AppleCare Protection Plan - Auto-enroll [Add $249.00]

AppleCare Protection Plan for MacBook Pro - Auto-enroll [Add $349.00]
 
I have a nearly 9 year old desktop HP that still runs as a media center PC (more as just a middle man between our networked computers and the TV). Both its CD/DVD drives failed and were removed and a new power supply was put in. Its slow as crap but allows us to access the networked computers and drives on the TV.

As for Mac vs Dell:

Superior frame and superior OS.

The Macbook Pro frame alone may be worth it because it houses the components. Sturdy, heat dispersing, durable...it protects the components inside. I know someone with an XPS that has cracks and some keys fell off. Yeah thats quality.

The OS is designed to work specifically with the components installed...the same can never be said for Windows machines. Plus I can run Windows and OS X on the same machine if needed.

IMO any price premium placed on Macs over Windows laptops is because of the quality build, and the symbiotic relationship between OS X and the hardware chosen. You get what you pay for and the XPS, while not a bad laptop, isn't built like a Macbook Pro.

And as I always point out the resale value of Macs tends to be very good. Even just a $500 resale value 3 years down the line is $500 off the price of a new Mac, combined with a student discount suddenly the price "gap" between Dell and Mac is a lot smaller.

You're right about everything, but it comes down to you're spending twice as much. Windows 7 is the same or better (better for gaming) than OSX when it comes to benchmarks. I think both are unique besides that, and OSX is obviously easier to maintain.

It doesn't have to be a Dell either. I know people hate on Dell, but there are many more companies out there that might be better. I know for a fact the HP Envy 14 is great.

Resale is good and all (I was offered 150 for my laptop 2 years ago, not bad but 500 is better) but if you're relying on that and you need to get a new computer because your current MBP was sucked into a wormhole, there goes the resale cushion. I'm guessing resale is so good because people want them but they know they're overpriced new like cars? :p
 
Finally a voice of reason.

This is very simple:

Apple puts out a product..

you like....you buy
you don't like, you don't buy

The end:)

One of the puropses of this site is to discuss the changes and new products apple puts out there. If people want to complain about the high prices and new updates, this is the place to talk about it!
 
maybe I'm wrong bit on the apple website it say there is a 512 SSB option. Is that not a good way to go?

you will notice the difference but its just if that difference is worth the price to you. If yes then do it!
 
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Has there always been a price difference for the Apple Care option between the Mac Book and the Mac Book Pro? I just got this off of Apple's website.

MacBook / MacBook Air / 13-inch MacBook Pro - AppleCare Protection Plan - Auto-enroll [Add $249.00]

AppleCare Protection Plan for MacBook Pro - Auto-enroll [Add $349.00]

Yes the macbook pro applecare has always been more.
 
I don't think I would have ever say this about mbp update but this one is epic fail!

13 inch still w/ same old res???? Stupid Xoom has that res and it's 10 inch ... MY Freaking GOD..... WTF.. seriously

The real hardware refresh will be when Lion launches. Is it that hard to work out?
 
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