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Apple Launches New 4K & 5K iMacs, Magic Keyboard, Magic Mouse 2 and Magic Trackpad 2
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This apple "nudge" the upgrade policy is killing their products. I'm done. My join date is either 2001 or 2002, but eitherway, i'm done.
It's been building for years, but look at the 16gb in the base iPhone and iPads. Apple has become all about nudging people to the next tier. That's fine when the base tier is useable, but a 5400rpm drive in 2015? Get real. 16gbs with the 6s or the iPad Air 2? Get real.
According to amd.com, M395X supports 8GB vram, while M295X 4GB. So for Apple, its a new marketing name. Because they don't give you the ram.
It is the same Tonga XT 125W chip.
Now all there is left for you to do, is to leave MacRumors and register on some Microsoft forum, will you?
P.S. And of course the Surface Type Cover for 149,99 € comes without a numpad.
So we can all agree Logitech puts more effort into making wireless keyboards? I means they've got a compact Bluetooth keyboard with backlit keys and a rechargeable battery that lasts a long time. A price increase isn't warranted. I was really looking forward to finally get back to using an Apple keyboard.
so will be throttling like M295X and will be noisy in hard usage and reach 105C ?
I wonder what the benchmarks will be.
If Skylake is truly 20% better performance, it would be 19,000-20,000 for the top-end iMac with an i7.
That would be a wonderful bump upward. I would be tempted.
If Skylake is truly 20% better performance, it would be 19,000-20,000 for the top-end iMac with an i7.
That would be a wonderful bump upward. I would be tempted.
These "upgrades" don't seem very appealing. $2300 for a machine with an i5, 8GB of RAM, AMD graphics and a 2TB drive? I bought my Retina MacBook Pro in 2012 with an i7 (although clocked slower), 16GB of RAM, decent Nvidia graphics and a 512GB SSD for not much more than this. Three years of progress. On a desktop. Sure?
The top stock model should come with an i7, 16GB of RAM, and a 512GB SSD standard. And for crying out loud, put an Nvidia gpu in the darn thing! And I think Apple is really showing some greed with a freaking 5400rpm hard drive in an $1800 machine. Seriously? They couldn't even spring for more than 24GB in the 1TB Fusion Drive! If anything those fusion drive should be up to 256GB. SSDs are less than $0.50/GB now and they charge $100 for a 24GB upgrade. OK.
Personally I'd pay to get a 3TB drive paired with a 512GB SSD but that's not an option. I'm in the market for a new Mac, mainly to run 4K for photo editing and design work, and this just isn't worth it. I'm willing to pay an Apple Tax, I always have. But this is just getting to be too much for too little. My 2012 rMBP can still do everything these machines can do except 4K at 60Hz. I've never had a machine over three years old that is still such a powerhouse. Maybe I should just pick up a used late 2013 rMBP, which I think can do 4K at 60Hz?
The top stock model should come with an i7, 16GB of RAM, and a 512GB SSD standard. And for crying out loud, put an Nvidia gpu in the darn thing! And I think Apple is really showing some greed with a freaking 5400rpm hard drive in an $1800 machine. Seriously? They couldn't even spring for more than 24GB in the 1TB Fusion Drive! If anything those fusion drive should be up to 256GB. SSDs are less than $0.50/GB now and they charge $100 for a 24GB upgrade. OK.
Personally I'd pay to get a 3TB drive paired with a 512GB SSD but that's not an option. I'm in the market for a new Mac, mainly to run 4K for photo editing and design work, and this just isn't worth it. I'm willing to pay an Apple Tax, I always have. But this is just getting to be too much for too little. My 2012 rMBP can still do everything these machines can do except 4K at 60Hz. I've never had a machine over three years old that is still such a powerhouse. Maybe I should just pick up a used late 2013 rMBP, which I think can do 4K at 60Hz?
Kinda peeved. Bought a 5K iMac 27 two weeks ago and now these drop. I thought only the 21.5 was going to get updated
return it
Hey does anyone happen to know the difference between the top end graphics choices? For the 27" iMac there's the AMD Radeon R9 M395 with 2GB video memory, and an extra $250 gives you an AMD Radeon M395X with 4GB video memory. What I can't figure out is - is that extra $250 just for 2GB more video RAM, or does the M395X have better specs as well?
I can't quite find the answers!
I can't quite find the answers!
This is a Mac for those mysterious people in Apple's logic who buy a 16Gb iPhones 6s
This is pure, unadulterated ********.
Apple has long had somewhat of a reputation for putting a premium on things that were somewhat behind their PC counterparts but this is just on another level. 5400rpm hard drive on your FLAGSHIP 4K iMac? I could list of all the other things that everyone else has on here but I can't even type without getting angry.
The sad thing is, they'll continue to do this, all the livelong day, despite what anyone anywhere says. They don't give a bakers ****, because they're already rolling in money by the dump truck full.
This, along with the incredulous uptick in prices for the supposed "improvements" to the mouse, keyboard, trackpad and the still clinging to the 16GB base tier for a phone that shoots 4K...
Enough.
Apple has long had somewhat of a reputation for putting a premium on things that were somewhat behind their PC counterparts but this is just on another level. 5400rpm hard drive on your FLAGSHIP 4K iMac? I could list of all the other things that everyone else has on here but I can't even type without getting angry.
The sad thing is, they'll continue to do this, all the livelong day, despite what anyone anywhere says. They don't give a bakers ****, because they're already rolling in money by the dump truck full.
This, along with the incredulous uptick in prices for the supposed "improvements" to the mouse, keyboard, trackpad and the still clinging to the 16GB base tier for a phone that shoots 4K...
Enough.
I use this keyboard and it's awesome:
http://tinyurl.com/plad4o8
Solar powered (ambient light charges it), quite, keypad, had it more than a year, no problems.
http://tinyurl.com/plad4o8
Solar powered (ambient light charges it), quite, keypad, had it more than a year, no problems.
No market for a display with one port and no buttons. Makes much less sense to build a display into a desktop.
And surely Apple need someone experienced like you to teach them how to do a proper Mac.....It's worse than a fail. It's the end of the Mac if they keep this crap up. Apple can't seem to make up its mind if it wants to do USB-C or just plain Thunderbolt DESPITE the fact Thunderbolt 3 makes the move to USB-C permanently (somehow I suspect Apple will be the only manufacturer on Earth that will keep the Mini-Display Port connection just to tick off every Mac user out there (save the fanboys; nothing Apple does EVER ticks them off; they jump for joy at every misstep!)
The Lightning connection makes no sense what-so-ever unless they are planning on unleashing mice and external trackpads for the iPad (yeah that would make wacko sense). The REAL reason is that they don't want to admit that the Lightning connector was STUPID to make in the first place. It's only USB2 speeds and USB-C makes it 100% OBSOLETE in every respect. So why aren't they designign for USB-C when it's the future of both desktops and mobile platforms everywhere on the Earth??? Why did they bother to put USB-C on a Macbook only to not use it anywhere else when we KNOW that the whole world will soon be using USB-C ports for everything (including Thunderbolt 3).
Why does Apple make 4K and 5K type machines and then not give them enough GPU power to do anything but drive the GUI? (and even THAT was choppy as hell on many machines until El Capitan and Metal came out!!!)
Apple seems obsessed about getting their high-end models down in price at the cost of functionality (3rd rate GPUs; old hard drives, AMD anything....) and yet they've got a Mac Pro that once again just sits there becoming completely out of date, overpriced to hell and not upgradeable even for the video card because they insisted on using custom connectors instead of an industry standard internal slot (guaranteeing you can't make one into the ultimate gaming Mac unlike Mac Pros of years past that were at least up-to-date for the year they came out and could be made into an actual useful desktop for non-pros even if it meant over-spending). Now there is no "high-end" Mac. They're all two-bit compromises for markets that didn't ask for them or want them. It's really unreal how stupid their design decisions are. Maybe number Johnny Five should have spent more time in engineering and less time making flat ugly graphical changes to OS X!
How HARD is it to simply make a machine that has an up-to-date i7, 16GB of ram standard, a REAL GPU (like a NVidia Maxwell capable of actually driving a 4k/5k display at usable frame rates) and standard SSD drives of 512GB or greater internal? Is that really such a hard thing to make? Or would their massive profit margin simply price the machine out of the stratosphere? Given we KNOW Thunderbolt III is just around the corner with all kinds of new goodies, I can't see why anyone would want to buy a new Mac right now that didn't have to, let alone one with a Broadwell chipset in it when it's already obsolete.
What I really want to see is a Macbook Pro 15" model with Thunderbolt III using USB-C ports (plus a couple of USB3 ports included on-board for usability without a hub) and the capability of using an external high-end graphics card for gaming and the like (whether or not it's running OS X or Windows through Boot Camp). In that case, the included GPU wouldn't be as important since it would likely be docked for gaming and finally having a way to upgrade the GPU for such uses would mean the computer isn't obsolete in two years (since CPU upgrades are typically slow and not needed whereas GPU improvements make life or death for frame rates in a short period of time).
In other words, I want ONE Computer To Rule Them All. That means no more desktops but a notebook that can plug into a hub and become a real desktop with one USB-C plug and Thunderbolt III bandwidth. The iMac is not needed with such a computer becoming available nor any desktops except for specific power uses (leave that to a properly made Mac Pro). But Apple seems unaware of such possibilities just like they are blind to offering touchscreens for those that might need/want them even if it's just in Windows mode (so they buy a Mac instead of a PC and thus generate Apple profit instead of losing a sale).
Ah, but Apple makes money (even if it's mostly from phones and the like), screams the fanatics! Therefore they are 100% right at all times! LOL.
You don't work for Apple ? Damn, Apple is doomed.... Again