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That Chip?

Are we having overheating problems still in the 21.5"? This 1.4GHz chip is more expensive then the 2.7GHz chip in the next more expensive iMac! (On intel pricing, $133 more.)
 
Nothing more to be said

Half the cores.

Half the clock.

Half the disk.

Crummy tablet RAM; unexpandable.

But a BIG 16% savings!

Any money Apple makes on this should be spent on Ouija Board technology to try and get in touch with Steve Jobs.


I've read every page of this comment section. The above quote says it all. What more is left to be said than the above?
 
A bad HDD/CPU mismatch

Without an SSD that CPU will fall flat on its face. The reason the MacBook Airs work so well is because of the SSD. It's not a bad value but it's certainly not good value either. It's just a meh... Fine for mom and dad.
 
What's wrong with the current design? Does the case of a desktop really matter that much to people? It's like the ever-thinning iMac. Nobody I know ever gets very excited about the thickness of a desktop. Maybe it matters much to people I don't know???

It's not great in terms of cooling, that's about all I can say.

Then again, it's quiet 99.999% of the time unless I manually bump the fans up, so maybe it is pretty good in that regard.

Why is this important? Are people finding the footprint of the current mini just too onerous? Does someone's desktop really need that inch or two freed up?

I think they mean less power as well, which would probably come into play more if you had a lot of them (I guess). Less power used (keeping performance the same of course) would keep it cooler as well. The same could be said of physical footprint.

I wouldn't mind the mini being the size of an Apple TV but I'd definitely need a better way to plug all my things in before even thinking about getting one like that.
 
Without an SSD that CPU will fall flat on its face. The reason the MacBook Airs work so well is because of the SSD. It's not a bad value but it's certainly not good value either. It's just a meh... Fine for mom and dad.

Exactly. Without the SSD its going to be a total dog. But yeah, grandma won't mind since she computes like she drives.
 
Wake me up when fusion is the norm in all iMacs. Rather have that than retina screen too.
 
What a crock... lol, Apple at it again ripping customers off, more specifically, ignorant blatant customers who don't know what they want, whats available, what they need or whats even best for them.

Love my rMBP, but I hated the price.
 
Exactly. Without the SSD its going to be a total dog. But yeah, grandma won't mind since she computes like she drives.

This will under perform as a desktop. It is essentially a MacBook Air in desktop form. Except MBA's at least get a SSD......and are portable.
 
I've never understood the downtime thing...don't they have a duplicate of their production system that they could change and test, then flip the switch? I thought that was standard procedure since the 1970s.

Perry

It's possible they are also doing maintenance at this time, but most of that can be done on a rolling basis as long as you have enough redundancy (which Apple certainly would have).

Yeah, I really have no idea. :confused:
 
Why? That is barely enough to load osx. 8 is minimum for a reason today and I highly recommend getting 16 gb ram

8gb is not the minimum, 4gb is the base minimum on all airs. Plus 16gb is not required unless you are a power user and do heavy duty photo video editing etc.
 
Why? That is barely enough to load osx. 8 is minimum for a reason today and I highly recommend getting 16 gb ram

I'm guessing they want to spend the $100 getting their own 16 GB of RAM anyways, making whatever sticks it ships with kind of unnecessary in their case (first thing I did even before booting mine was replace the RAM—in hindsight, a bit of bad judgement on my part).
 
1.4 GHz in a desktop computer at this price?

Surely that's a typo...

Just checked Apple's store and it says the same thing.

1.4 GHz for $1099 or 2.7 GHz for $1299. They're the same line of CPU, so it's an apples to apples comparison. For an 18% increase in price, you double the CPU and the storage capacity. The GPU also changes, but it changes lines entirely so there's no easy way to say how much better one is than the other.

It turbos at 2.7 GHz genius :rolleyes:

That said, you wind up being right completely by accident because it's a dual core CPU, not a quad core.
 
I've been waiting for Apple to announce their lower cost iMac to see what the specs would be. What does everyone think is the best iMac model for building an app? I'm a new developer and am just starting to learn how to code, so I'm certainly not making Infinity Blade here! But I also want to make sure I get a new Mac that has good specs to support app development.

My thought is that is should be a quad core chip and have at least 16gb of ram. I'm uncertain about the graphics card. I don't think the lower priced iMac has good enough specs for what I'm looking to do, but would love to hear what others think!

Thanks!
Development work goes much faster with a 2560x1440 pixel count screen because of the need for multiple source file editing windows, debugging consoles, etc. Skip any 21 inch 1920x1080 model like this one.
 
I've never understood the downtime thing...don't they have a duplicate of their production system that they could change and test, then flip the switch? I thought that was standard procedure since the 1970s.

Perry

Yeah, even small companies have a dev environment and simply push changes to the production environment once ready. Then you're 100% it works, and have a minimum of downtime.
 
Half the cores.

Half the clock.

Half the disk.

Crummy tablet RAM; unexpandable.

But a BIG 16% savings!

Any money Apple makes on this should be spent on Ouija Board technology to try and get in touch with Steve Jobs.

ROFL win! :D

Best comment in the thread.
 
That's nice if we are talking about preferences, but overall anyone that is considering a computer like the MBA or iMac really only has two choices to make:

1) do I want to take it with me

2) do I NOT want to take it with me.

After that, the rest of it will be preference sure.

Even with it being $300 less, the iMac gives a larger screen and more HDD space, more USB 3.0 ports, more Thunderbolt ports, and wireless keyboard and mouse included.

Buying an Air, even with an SSD, just to leave it on the desk for most of it's life really does pale in comparison.

We really just shouldn't be comparing an AIO desktop to a MBA in terms of value.

MBA includes a Mouse (trackpad) and Keyboard, iMac having more USB ports and Thunderbolt ports are a bit moot when your machine has such low specs. A user buying the Low priced model is not in it for a work horse to do any sort of GPU or processor heavy work or expanding much past what comes in the box.

Even the base model Mac Mini, let alone the i7 upgrade, is better in terms of specs for $ in comparison to this machine. My i7 Mac Mini with two 23 inch monitors wired keyboard and a trackpad, RAM upgrade and an SSD upgrade is only about $100 bucks more that this and only because I bought it a year and a half ago. Today I'd probably be able to do the same set up for cheaper than $1099. AIO are about space saving AND value. This thing may save space but it's spec'd itself out of any usefulness when compared to anything else in the Mac lineup...

It would probably be more worth a consumer's time to look into a used iMac from the last 3 years than get this model IMO.

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Without an SSD that CPU will fall flat on its face. The reason the MacBook Airs work so well is because of the SSD. It's not a bad value but it's certainly not good value either. It's just a meh... Fine for mom and dad.

See this comment.
 
These threads crack me up! Apple could put a baloney sandwhich in an iMac case and the Apple apologists here would compare it to the Mona Lisa! C'mon people, this super low performance iMac with the big price really has me scratching my head. I'm a big Apple fan but what is this?

It's a Curate's Egg - not cheap enough to be a no-brainer and not powerful or innovative enough to be exciting.
 
july, and this is all apple can come up with?? not even an update to the i7 with 880m and the latest i7 processor with tb2 (that wouldnt be a complex update for them to do). geez I hope this and the MB air isnt part of what tim cook and eddy cue looks upon as a year of impressive product upgrades...effortless upgrades IMO.

New Air, iWatch, New AppleTV, New iMacs are the rumored major updates this year.

I am personally speculating that they might bring back the MacBook made out of the Polycarbonate they used for the iPhone Color. But that's based on nothing other than what I would do if I was a product manager at Apple. The reason being is that it would be much lower cost than milling aluminum and they could possibly do a MacBook Color line that would be perfect for students... More durable, cheaper, and fun. It could be something like the a prettier version of the Colorware Air.
 

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I still believe that this price point for these specs is way to high. Its way too high to purchase as a kids computer and even so a kids computer needs to be able to play basic games at 30 fps for them to want them. They should of saved money on the cases by making them plastic and getting them down to the 600 range where these specs belong. Apple is beginning to worry me. Are the days of the Newton returning? How is a 1000 dollar low power computer going to compete in china?
 
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