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Apple Launches New 'Everything Changes With iPad' Site

Too bad the iPad is dying. Apple has failed to innovate and allow the iPad to be more than a big iPhone. People see no reason to pay full price for an Apple product. And iOS is a joke on the iPad - Apple should have had the decency to at least make a version of iOS more adapted to the iPad (9 icons on display in a folder? LOL!).

Really, this is entirely Apple's fault. :mad::rolleyes:;)
 
thekeyring said:
Between iPad 3 and iPad Air 2 there doesn't feel like a huge difference.

Yet between iPhone 4S and iPhone 6 it feels like a world of difference.

Even though both products have got thinner, lighter, much faster, better cameras, new designs, Touch ID, and Apple Pay. Both arguably have advanced together. Yet you don't feel it with iPad. I'm sure this perception comes down to marketing.
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Part of the iPhone 4S to 6 difference is screen size, a change that doesn't apply to the iPad. But one would think the speed improvements should be similar (both iPhones and full-size iPads get the same yearly processor improvements). Although the cellular speed improvement is not there for WiFi iPad users and even for cellular iPad users the proportion of time spent on Wifi is probably larger on iPads than on iPhones (we don't walk around the city with an iPad in out hand and also much less so in the pocket than we do with iPhones which also affects how much we value TouchID). Ditto for Apple Pay.
 
kodos said:
Meh, we are replacing all of our iPads with Surfaces at home. The kids love their Surfaces - particularly because they can plug in ... a MOUSE.

Just got my wife a Surface 3 last night to replace her iMac.

If Apple could crack that same market, they'd have a sure-fire-winner for our household. The sad part of going to the Surface was leaving behind all of the cool apps that we have on iOS.

BUT, this was the right move for us. An iPad Pro that ran iOS but had more computer friendly features for productivity? That would be the real end of the laptop for most people.

But it's a tricky walk, and I'm not sure that Apple's current software team is up for it, they seem to be making misstep after misstep. Apple Hardware continues to be excellent, but their SW seems to be getting more buggy as of late. We'll see.

But for us - no more iPads until something changes with its OS.
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I've been pondering the same, but it's REALLY hard leaving Apple's eco system.
Apple's continued quest to hobble the product line in an effort to avoid cannibalizing the same is seriously annoying.

My pain threshold has not been reached yet, but I am more aware of competing products and when there's a better eco system available, I will consider jumping.
 
Piggie said:
Let's be brutally honest here for a moment.
People who choose Apple to start with, are not going to be THE most computer literate people anyway.
I know this is going to upset many me saying it, but let's be honest with ourselves.
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Speak for yourself. What a dumb statement, especially coming from a MR regular.

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groovyd said:
think it is cool how they flashed an iPad pro during the ad
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where?
 
thekeyring said:
Between iPad 3 and iPad Air 2 there doesn't feel like a huge difference.

Yet between iPhone 4S and iPhone 6 it feels like a world of difference.
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It's not just marketing. The iPad have always come down to that 9.7" IPS display.

More pixels, less pixels, thinner, thicker, narrower case or not.

The iPhone has been kept fresh due to a massive screen upgrade in the 4th generation (retina, laminated, IPS) AND after that a screen revolution every 2 years.

16:9 display in the 5 felt massively different vs the 4/4s and all the previous ones. Then the 4.7 and 5.5" display in the 6 and 6+ as well 2 years later.

Apple has been milking this masterfully.

Another tune will play once display sizes stabilise. At least regarding freshness of experience.
 
Ok... so apparently people aren't upgrading their iPads very often.

So who bought 12 million iPads last quarter?

I'm guessing those are mostly new iPad owners?

I understand how sales growth is important for a corporation.

But wouldn't adding 10 million new users also be a pretty important thing?
 
thekeyring said:
Between iPad 3 and iPad Air 2 there doesn't feel like a huge difference.

Yet between iPhone 4S and iPhone 6 it feels like a world of difference.

Even though both products have got thinner, lighter, much faster, better cameras, new designs, Touch ID, and Apple Pay. Both arguably have advanced together. Yet you don't feel it with iPad. I'm sure this perception comes down to marketing.
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I believe this speaks to why I'm not even tempted to tinker with the ipads whenever I visit an Apple Store now.

My iPad for the most part stays at home however my phone is always with me. I suffer no inconvenience making that choice.

Let's see:
iPad Air - lighter, thinner, faster, better cam, new design, Touch ID, apple pay.
My iPhone 6+ does all that better and much more conveniently, oh and it makes more practical sense as to why it would.

A lot of these iOS features that are being included on the iPad are beginning to make about as much sense as seeing them included on a MacBook.

For my use case I love my iPad 3, however if apple wants me to replace it with a new one they have to do waaaay more than throw polished commercial ads at me.
 
The iPad is not dying, nor will it....but it isn't a "must have" product and certainly not a "must upgrade frequently" product when one has a decent size smartphone and a Macbook/Laptop.

Mine is used for reading before bed, thats it. I always wanted to use it for other purposes, but never really felt the need to. It's sort of how I feel about the Apple watch, I'm not going to force technology and constant upgrades on myself if there is really not that much value being added to my life.

I think people are really starting to sort through what technology they actually need in their lives, and I believe tablets will always be on the outside looking in until all of them become full blown laptop replacements for similar price as current tablets.
 
manu chao said:
But it seems people are not switching from non-Apple tablets (Android largely) to iPads in the same proportion. Because non-Apple tablet sales are outperforming iPad sales, the reverse of what it true in the computer market. Meaning, longer replacement cycles cannot explain the falling iPad sales alone (unless the relative increase of non-Apple tablet sales is only due to shorter replacement cycles for non-Apple tablets.)
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Pricing would likely be a factor in all of that.
 
From watching this video it really needs a precision pen option. Most of the tasks are very basic that can be done on a phone so to make it more useful it needs to have a bigger display, running Mac OS X and option for detachable/flippable keyboard cover.
 
Piggie said:
The funny thing is, when you think about it.

THE very people who are most lightly to buy tablets,
and will be the least lightly to be on a upgrade for the sake of it path.
and sold it to the people less lightly to want a new version.
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I think you meant 'likely' not 'lightly'

You make a good point and then ignore it.

The iPad already does what it is supposed to do. And the people who were supposed to buy it did. So who is left. No one. We are done.

You seem to be describing some future device. Please tell me more.
 
ericgtr12 said:
Until they address the memory limitations, these will never be ready for anything more than casual surfing. Ever try filling out an online form with more than a few fields? Web pages automatically refresh between tabs and its inability to work with two applications at the same time pretty much cripple it in real world usage.
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Why is this even an issue of memory? Geez, I used to have like 20 tabs open at once on my iMac G5 with 512MB of RAM, no problem.
 
AlecZ said:
Why is this even an issue of memory? Geez, I used to have like 20 tabs open at once on my iMac G5 with 512MB of RAM, no problem.
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That, as basically most desktop OSs do, had a different system of handling virtual memory and paging and swap files and all that.
 
jpgr15 said:
Until the iPad has some functionality that my 6+ doesn't, there is no reason to upgrade my iPad 3. Honestly, the iPhone 6+ really made it questionable whether there is a reason for me to have an iPad in the first place when there is no real difference in the OS. Oh, except for the fact the iPad still doesn't have a calculator.
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Yup.
I use my iPad (Retina) when my iPhone 6 battery dies or is charging. These machines literally don't do anything different from each other, even though it's slightly worse than that because of (as you mentioned) they don't even include all iPhone apps on the iPad!

I doubt I will ever update my iPad. Even if it breaks, unless there's a huge feature boost to iOS for iPad I'll just stick to my iPhone.
 
I've said this before, and I will say it again.

Apple is afraid to push the iPad further because they want to sell you an iPhone, iPad, Mac, and now a watch. They are basically afraid to lose the Mac sales, which a product like the Surface Pro would certainly do.

This approach is going to bite them in the a** if they don't get a move on soon.
 
Whats the app where they took a photo and could directly paint it??? couldn't find something like that yet....

edit: 0:48 in the youtube video.

edit2: it's Notability. I already had this app one or two years ago and it was very bad. wow. it really improved over time. worth a second shot.
 
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