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Apple Launches New 'Invites' App

n-evo said:
If the email address you enter is associated with an Apple Account it’ll ask you to login before you can RSVP. I just found out with a friend who has an Android, but his email address is tied to an Apple ID because he owns a Mac. He got redirected to an Apple Account login page. He didn’t know his password so he couldn’t continue. We didn’t see an option to go around it apart from using another mail address. Pretty annoying tbh.
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Yes. The feature is nearly useless, for 70% worldwide are using android phones.

It seems that Apple forgot the above hard fact and follow the custom of other iCloud features, like file sharing, to require the invited parties to create Apple account!


Who bother you or be happy with the hassle to create an Apple account to an event? Calendar invite via emails is much more straightforward!

I think Apple shall adopt the link invite approach that they adopt for FaceTime invite to non Apple users, which require no Apple account to join FaceTime meetings. That make much more sense!
 
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timeislove said:
Yes, anybody can be invited, but the invited parties do need an Apple account to join.

After entering the email address, the invited parties will be prompted to login Apple account or to create an Apple account.

Please do check before replying and saying others lying.
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NO...they do not need an Apple account to respond. They only need to provide an email address and then verify that email address if they want to respond directly to the invitation. But, they can see the invitation without providing an email address. They just can't respond.

But providing an email address ISN'T signing up for an Apple Account.

You should check before replying and implying that someone is lying, no? ;)

And, btw, Partiful required that I give them my phone number prior to being able to use the app.
 
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Timo_Existencia said:
NO...they do not need an Apple account to respond. They only need to provide an email address and then verify that email address if they want to respond directly to the invitation. But, they can see the invitation without providing an email address. They just can't respond.

But providing an email address ISN'T signing up for an Apple Account.

You should check before replying and implying that someone is lying, no? ;)

And, btw, Partiful required that I give them my phone number prior to being able to use the app.
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Did you try providing an email address?

What did you see?

Here below what I have noticed:

If the email address tied with Apple account, prompt for login;

If the email address not tied with Apple account, the system prompted you for creating one.


Please let me know what did you encounter after entering an email addr.
 
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timeislove said:
Did you try providing an email address?

What did you see?

Here below what I have noticed:

If the email address tied with Apple account, prompt for login;

If the email address not tied with Apple account, the system prompted you for creating one.


Please let me know what did you encounter after entering an email addr.
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Yes, I just went through the whole process with an alternate email address. It DID NOT ASK ME TO CREATE AN APPLE ACCOUNT. Period.

It only offered to let me respond to the invite by giving an email address, and then sent me an email to verify that email address. No Apple Account created.
 
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Timo_Existencia said:
Not true. You keep saying this. It simply is not true. You only need to provide an email address and then verify that email address if you want to reply to the invite. That's not creating an Apple account. And you can see the invite without doing anything.
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Here below what I noticed when receiving an invite (via link) and after entering an email address.

Please do let me know when you see
after entering an email address not tied with Apple account.

I will be happy to see otherwise.
 

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timeislove said:
Yes, anybody can be invited, but the invited parties do need an Apple account to join.

After entering the email address, the invited parties will be prompted to login Apple account or to create an Apple account.
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I see three options there: enter an email address OR log into an existing Apple account OR create an Apple account.

This is consistent with the other coverage I've seen on this app, that non-Apple users can RSVP with just an email address. Perhaps you want to investigate further before admonishing others about it?
 
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CarlJ said:
I see three options there: enter an email address OR log into an existing Apple account OR create an Apple account.

This is consistent with the other coverage I've seen on this app, that non-Apple users can RSVP with just an email address. Perhaps you want to investigate further before admonishing others about it?
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What did you see if you enter an email not tied with Apple account?

Please check the screenshots in my last post. After I entered an email address not tied with Apple, I was prompted to logon Apple or create an Apple account. That’s it.
 
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Timo_Existencia said:
NO...they do not need an Apple account to respond. They only need to provide an email address and then verify that email address if they want to respond directly to the invitation. But, they can see the invitation without providing an email address. They just can't respond.

But providing an email address ISN'T signing up for an Apple Account.

You should check before replying and implying that someone is lying, no? ;)

And, btw, Partiful required that I give them my phone number prior to being able to use the app.
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Did you try providing an email addr not tied with Apple account?

That’s what I got.
 

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timeislove said:
What did you see if you enter an email not tied with Apple account?

Please check the screenshots in my last post. After I entered an email address not tied with Apple, I was prompted to logon Apple or create an Apple account. That’s it.
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Again, it's clear that you're not very good at reading the text on the screenshot that you posted. It's asking for the email address that the invite was sent to. OR you can log in IF you have an Apple account, OR you can create an Apple account if you want to.

I went through the same thing:
  • I set up a test event in the Invites app.
  • I sent an invite to an account that does not have an associated Apple ID (a gmail account I never use).
  • I received the invitation email on that account.
  • I copied and pasted the invite URL from the email into Safari (in a private browsing window so it couldn't get to my Apple credentials).
  • I got to that very same dialog box that you show in your last screenshot - it literally says "Verify Email to Reply".
  • I typed the email address for the secondary account into the email address field.
  • Then it asked me to enter a 6-digit code that it had just sent to that email address (to verify that it was typed correctly - thus the title of the dialog).
  • I got the email (on my secondary account) with that 6-digit code.
  • I typed the code the field in the browser window, and got to the actual invite screen, where I could indicate going / not going / maybe.
  • I indicated that I was going to the event.
  • Back in the Invites app, I got an immediate notification that the invitation was accepted.
There is NO Apple account associated with the email address that I used.
I DID NOT set up an Apple account associated with that address.

You keep telling people that that screen requires you to use or create an account, and people keep telling you it does not, and you keep patiently explaining to them that they're wrong without actually reading what is in the screenshot you posted. There's a term for that: confidently incorrect. It seems like you never tried following the on-screen directions. You get to that screen, you read the bottom two-thirds of the choices (ignoring the main choice that is presented first), assume that you're required to create an account, and then you continually assert that your assumption is true, without testing it, and in the face of numerous people explaining to you how you are getting it wrong. You're calling other people confused, when you haven't properly read the text on the screen.

Stop spreading misinformation!
 
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thecombatwombat said:
It's much simpler than that. Hanlon's Razor. They've sold more iPhones than Macs or iPads.

iPhone apps can run on Macs and iPads, but not the other way around.

Which would you launch on first?
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But despite that, there seems to be no substantial reason that I can see, other than to try to promote iPhone sales, for launching a new app like this only for the iPhone, when it's not that much more work to simultaneously create a version that at least also runs on the iPad, since iOS and iPadOS aren't as different from each other as they are from macOS. Creating a true macOS version would take longer, but that should be baked into a decent development and release timeline, so that a follow-on macOS version could be released not too long after, certainly not a year or two (or more) later.
 
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cateye said:
Given how inconsequential the HomePod is, do you blame them? They're not the only third party streaming service that never bothered to create a HomePod hook.



When you're in the Spotify universe, Spotify Connect has more features and generally works better than AirPlay. Yes, given Spotify supports Casting to Google devices, AirPlay 2 support would be nice, but its lacking is hardly a limiting factor.

The HomePod is a dongle for an Apple Music subscription. If you're going to insist on locking yourself to HomePods, that's going to be the best pathway to get the most out of them. Or, you get the equivalent Sonos units which support pretty much everything.
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Ah. You missed the point. My bad for not putting a sarcasm tag.
 
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CarlJ said:
Again, it's clear that you're not very good at reading the text on the screenshot that you posted. It's asking for the email address that the invite was sent to. OR you can log in IF you have an Apple account, OR you can create an Apple account if you want to.

I went through the same thing:
  • I set up a test event in the Invites app.
  • I sent an invite to an account that does not have an associated Apple ID (a gmail account I never use).
  • I received the invitation email on that account.
  • I copied and pasted the invite URL from the email into Safari (in a private browsing window so it couldn't get to my Apple credentials).
  • I got to that very same dialog box that you show in your last screenshot - it literally says "Verify Email to Reply".
  • I typed the email address for the secondary account into the email address field.
  • Then it asked me to enter a 6-digit code that it had just sent to that email address (to verify that it was typed correctly - thus the title of the dialog).
  • I got the email (on my secondary account) with that 6-digit code.
  • I typed the code the field in the browser window, and got to the actual invite screen, where I could indicate going / not going / maybe.
  • I indicated that I was going to the event.
  • Back in the Invites app, I got an immediate notification that the invitation was accepted.
There is NO Apple account associated with the email address that I used.
I DID NOT set up an Apple account associated with that address.

You keep telling people that that screen requires you to use or create an account, and people keep telling you it does not, and you keep patiently explaining to them that they're wrong without actually reading what is in the screenshot you posted. There's a term for that: confidently incorrect. It seems like you never tried following the on-screen directions. You get to that screen, you read the bottom two-thirds of the choices (ignoring the main choice that is presented first), assume that you're required to create an account, and then you continually assert that your assumption is true, without testing it, and in the face of numerous people explaining to you how you are getting it wrong. You're calling other people confused, when you haven't properly read the text on the screen.

Stop spreading misinformation!
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tks for your testing.

after a few hrs, i now got the screen of entering verification code.

it looks to me like, after entering the email addr, apple did process a bit, and direct to a screen prompting for logon apple account or create an account if found the email addr kinda a makeup one, e.g. xxx@gmail.com, abc@gmail.com (wonder how they figure out though), and in my cases, the system somehow redirected me to abovesaid screen even though i entered a proper email addr not tied with apple account. i guess that's an issue due to the delay in rolling out the services for different regions.

i did read, and noticed what you said about the three choices. i did enter an email addr (not apple one), but anyhow the system prompted me for logging in apple acct or creating an account.

the attached screen capture is like what i got after entering an email addr (your first choice). you can try an makeup email addr in the first screen prompt ("verify email to reply"), still get this screen (not prompt for verification code).
 

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The Invites app has received its first update today with the release of version 1.0.1.

This update includes:

Stability and performance enhancements

Just in time for the weekend!
 
johnsawyercjs said:
But despite that, there seems to be no substantial reason that I can see, other than to try to promote iPhone sales, for launching a new app like this only for the iPhone, when it's not that much more work to simultaneously create a version that at least also runs on the iPad, since iOS and iPadOS aren't as different from each other as they are from macOS. Creating a true macOS version would take longer, but that should be baked into a decent development and release timeline, so that a follow-on macOS version could be released not too long after, certainly not a year or two (or more) later.
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Could be, but I doubt it. Data they have that we don't:

How many users are out there do you think, who have iPads and Macs, but don't have an iPhone?

*Maybe* 1 in . . . 500? Maybe?

Maybe slightly more who are just Mac users. But like, how many of those use iCloud+ and are likely to be customers for this thing?

And on top of that, would be tempted to buy an iPhone, just because this app doesn't run in full screen on those devices? *And* they're iCloud+ users?

It would be a silly conspiracy, for what must literally be like .00001% of users.
 
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