Sidebar Sidebar
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

Apple Launches New USB-C Accessories for USB-C iPad Pro Models

BeatCrazy said:
They expect you to use AirPods, or Beats. Not the $5 headphones that come for free in the iPhone box.
Click to expand...
This is one more reason why my next phone may not be an iPhone. I can use USB-C audio on my laptop (plus 3.5mm of course). If I could use it on my phone, and on the iPad, then problem is solved.

If I stick with Apple, I'd need 3.5mm analog headphones plus two adapters - one Lightning for the iPhone and one USB-C for the iPad. One was messy but, ok, whatevs. Two is just dumb.

Guess what Apple - I'll switch to a different phone and I can stick to just USB-C headphones, and won't have to try to juggle multiple adapters.
 
iSayuSay said:
Yeah well 2018 will be the most confusing years for iPhone and iPad buyers. It feels like they use Android and iOS at the same time..

It also gives reason for many customers to simply delay their iPhone purchase plan since you know Lightning is going away for good.
[doublepost=1540918200][/doublepost]
It also means that XS and XR becomes a bad purchase since it may be one of the latest tech relic to use the Lightning port
Click to expand...

It's not like they stop working when the new ones come out.
Personally I'm fully invested in USB-C so I'm quite happy for them to change. But I don't see how releasing iPhones in 2019 with a USB-C port somehow makes this years iPhones relics? The only time I really even use lightning is when I charge my phone at night.
[doublepost=1540955569][/doublepost]
xraydoc said:
This is one more reason why my next phone may not be an iPhone. I can use USB-C audio on my laptop (plus 3.5mm of course). If I could use it on my phone, and on the iPad, then problem is solved.

If I stick with Apple, I'd need 3.5mm analog headphones plus two adapters - one Lightning for the iPhone and one USB-C for the iPad. One was messy but, ok, whatevs. Two is just dumb.

Guess what Apple - I'll switch to a different phone and I can stick to just USB-C headphones, and won't have to try to juggle multiple adapters.
Click to expand...

You realize next year Apple will likely have an all USB-C lineup?
So for me it would be USB-C MacBook, iPhone, AirPods case. I'm quite looking forward to that.
 
827538 said:
It's not like they stop working when the new ones come out.
Personally I'm fully invested in USB-C so I'm quite happy for them to change. But I don't see how releasing iPhones in 2019 with a USB-C port somehow makes this years iPhones relics? The only time I really even use lightning is when I charge my phone at night.
[doublepost=1540955569][/doublepost]

You realize next year Apple will likely have an all USB-C lineup?
So for me it would be USB-C MacBook, iPhone, AirPods case. I'm quite looking forward to that.
Click to expand...
I hope that's true. I would have been mostly fine with all Lightning (the addition of a Lightning audio port on the MacBooks would have been great, BTW).
All USB-C would be better. It's too bad they were so short sighted and couldn't do it all at once.
 
xraydoc said:
This is one more reason why my next phone may not be an iPhone. I can use USB-C audio on my laptop (plus 3.5mm of course). If I could use it on my phone, and on the iPad, then problem is solved.

If I stick with Apple, I'd need 3.5mm analog headphones plus two adapters - one Lightning for the iPhone and one USB-C for the iPad. One was messy but, ok, whatevs. Two is just dumb.

Guess what Apple - I'll switch to a different phone and I can stick to just USB-C headphones, and won't have to try to juggle multiple adapters.
Click to expand...
The real question: why are you using 3.5mm headphones? If you’re a serious audio nut, you’d be using a portable DAC.
 
  • Like
Reactions: tromboneaholic
BeatCrazy said:
The real question: why are you using 3.5mm headphones? If you’re a serious audio nut, you’d be using a portable DAC.
Click to expand...
I'm just talking about quick & dirty audio. High-end is less of a problem than, say, airport/airplane audio and juggling three different standards.
 
827538 said:
It's not like they stop working when the new ones come out.
Personally I'm fully invested in USB-C so I'm quite happy for them to change. But I don't see how releasing iPhones in 2019 with a USB-C port somehow makes this years iPhones relics? The only time I really even use lightning is when I charge my phone at night.
[doublepost=1540955569][/doublepost]

You realize next year Apple will likely have an all USB-C lineup?
So for me it would be USB-C MacBook, iPhone, AirPods case. I'm quite looking forward to that.
Click to expand...

Surely it's not. In fact Lightning accessories may still be around for a good number of years. But this new iPad Pro gives a new pack of dongles, chargers and cables headache. So when I travel I need to rethink which dongles or cables I need to carry for my new iPhone and iPad.

Again, I'm not against USB-C. I just wish Apple started USB-C phasing with 2018 iPhone lineups instead of iPad Pro. Did you know iPhone 5 along with iPod Touch and Nano was the first Apple product to use the Lightning port? Just a month later, the iPad 4th gen followed suit, and so on. That was a pretty smooth transition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_(connector)#History

For someone like me who's deeply invested in Apple products, this is very annoying. Just more cable to deal with.
 
As an Amazon Associate, MacRumors earns a commission from qualifying purchases made through links in this post.
xraydoc said:
I hope that's true. I would have been mostly fine with all Lightning (the addition of a Lightning audio port on the MacBooks would have been great, BTW).
All USB-C would be better. It's too bad they were so short sighted and couldn't do it all at once.
Click to expand...

I agree its not an ideal solution to have a staggered change but it is what it is.
I'll likely be replacing my MacBook and iPhone next year anyway so I'll be 100% USB-C hopefully. Will likely get the second gen AirPods when they arrive too.

My wife will buy the new iPad so it will be nice to be completely onboard with the standard. Even our camera and external SSD are USB-C.
 
tromboneaholic said:
You don’t have to. I use wireless headphones.
Click to expand...

And what port did your "wireless headphones" come with? There's Airpods and BeatsX that comes with Lightning port, and also another bunch that come with microUSB. Few has USB-C. Nevertheless, you need to bring the whole new set of cables and adapters.
 
As an Amazon Associate, MacRumors earns a commission from qualifying purchases made through links in this post.
iSayuSay said:
And what port did your "wireless headphones" come with? There's Airpods and BeatsX that comes with Lightning port, and also another bunch that come with microUSB. Few has USB-C. Nevertheless, you need to bring the whole new set of cables and adapters.
Click to expand...
They last all day on a charge for me (BeatsX).
 
As an Amazon Associate, MacRumors earns a commission from qualifying purchases made through links in this post.
BeatCrazy said:
I use these: https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-Rayz-Cancellation-Headphones-Earbuds/dp/B07DHZLX24
Click to expand...

That is a sweet headphones. But I was talking about wireless ones.

My strategy would be waiting for next iPhones to come with USB-C and then I can start thinking about upgrading and ditching Lightning completely.

Right now my travel pack contained with 8 Plus and 10.5" iPad Pro which is fantastic with my BeatsX. All three use Lightning, which works with my battery pack (which also has Lightning input) and 2 sets of Lightning cables along with dual 2.4A USB wall charger. Ready to take on the world wherever I go. Everything is great together until you put USB-C into the equation.

See how many times I said Lightning? LOL
 
Last edited:
As an Amazon Associate, MacRumors earns a commission from qualifying purchases made through links in this post.
Analog Kid said:
I don’t see a USB-A adapter— does this mean the new Pros can only cable to a Mac with USB-C?

I don’t plan to get a new Mac for a while...

On a related note, does iTunes still insist on putting Mobile Backups on the boot drive? That’s gonna hurt w/ a 1TB iPad...
Click to expand...
Solution 1: iCloud syncing and backup.

2TB is $9.99/mo or $119.98 looked at yearly. The money you save on adaptors, external hard drive, and your own time will surely pay it off. Also more sound as it provides off site backup and remote access to data at no additional cost.

If you need more storage than the 2TB iCloud can offer, you surely have a much more advanced (probably NAS) system in place...

If you are concerned about security and/or privacy, ok, I can potentially buy that, but short of running your own server in your own home you aren't going to beat iCloud. Even running your own server in your own home, the data is traveling over your ISP (and many others'), so it isn't going to be much better.

Alternatively, if you can manage to connect them (an off the shelf USB-C to USB-A cable should work: External Storage

You can move MobileBackups to an external by utilizing a symlink (not Alias).

You can use several widely available third-party tools that can kick off an iOS device backup (and not third party, Apple Configurator).
 
redpandadev said:
Solution 1: iCloud syncing and backup.

2TB is $9.99/mo or $119.98 looked at yearly. The money you save on adaptors, external hard drive, and your own time will surely pay it off. Also more sound as it provides off site backup and remote access to data at no additional cost.

If you need more storage than the 2TB iCloud can offer, you surely have a much more advanced (probably NAS) system in place...

If you are concerned about security and/or privacy, ok, I can potentially buy that, but short of running your own server in your own home you aren't going to beat iCloud. Even running your own server in your own home, the data is traveling over your ISP (and many others'), so it isn't going to be much better.

Alternatively, if you can manage to connect them (an off the shelf USB-C to USB-A cable should work: External Storage

You can move MobileBackups to an external by utilizing a symlink (not Alias).

You can use several widely available third-party tools that can kick off an iOS device backup (and not third party, Apple Configurator).
Click to expand...
I'll be interested to hear if anyone tries a male-to-male C-to-A cable and how it turns out. Maybe it's just something that works as part of the USB spec, but if it requires software support and Apple isn't providing a cable for this situation, I can't bank on them supporting it.

I'm not backing up my iOS devices to the cloud. I have a hard drive, that's what it's for. I don't need to put a bunch of network equipment and a server farm in between.

I can probably back up over WiFi to my local iTunes though, which is fine assuming I can also transfer files to and from the device that way as well.

What I want to have a direct wire for though, is Duet. It's very convenient to be able to have a second display next to my laptop.

I do have a symlink to a secondary drive for my MobileBackups folder, but that seems beyond the typical user. They really should either let you choose a location for backups in the preferences, or include the backups in the iTunes library which they already let you store elsewhere. For the average user, buying a terabyte SSD to boot from only to find that most of it is used to store a series of copies of you iPad data has to be frustrating...
 
BeatCrazy said:
The real question: why are you using 3.5mm headphones? If you’re a serious audio nut, you’d be using a portable DAC.
Click to expand...
Agreed.
I use a Fiio μBTR for casual use and a Fiio Q1 for more serious listening. Also a selection of cheaper bluetooth earbuds that I leave in my car and my desk at work amongst other places. I recently got a BT receiver for my customer IEMs and it supports AAC so the quality is pretty good on that too.
I'm more bothered by the lack of AptX than the 3.5mm jack.
 
It is odd that there is no cable in the apple store that is USBC to USBA male for connecting the new Ipad to a computer for syncing?
I assume a standard cable will work, but thought Apple would have one available.
 
michael31986 said:
I meant an adapter to have your USB a to lightening wires change to USBC. Just like a dongle to do lightening to USB c
Click to expand...

Nope. They want you to buy a brand new USB-C device. They don't want to have to convert from Lightning to USB-C.
 
Usb 3.1 speed for backups pleaseeeeeeeee
[doublepost=1541688324][/doublepost]
iSayuSay said:
Yeah well 2018 will be the most confusing years for iPhone and iPad buyers. It feels like they use Android and iOS at the same time..

It also gives reason for many customers to simply delay their iPhone purchase plan since you know Lightning is going away for good.
[doublepost=1540918200][/doublepost]
It also means that XS and XR becomes a bad purchase since it may be one of the latest tech relic to use the Lightning port
Click to expand...

As someone said above, iPhne needs are different feom iPad (connect to cameras, screen etc) and many other manufacturers as car industry has adoptep lighting BUT the move in the iPad is so so shicking, that I wish iPhone adopt usb c also.

This would be a step back for Apple, the “i’ve been wrong just one time company” (mac pro)
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.
Top Bottom
Back