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Apple is always behind hardware wise in their all of their iOS devices. You can't possibly tell me they are the best... To jog your memory just a bit, the iPad Mini has a dual core A9, with the iPad 4 having a dual A15, instead of both having quad A15s like current competitors, the Mini has a quite dated 1024x768 display that is lower resolution than the iPhone 5 phone , the iPad 1 and iPod Touch 4th gen were shipped a pathetic 256MB RAM, Apple outright refuses to install a GPS in any non cellular iOS devices, we are arbitrarily stuck at 16GB/32GB/64GB models for most products, no product ever has a micro-SD card reader for expandability, the lighting and older Apple connectors are for all intents and purposes proprietary, so one cant plug USB devices in, such as with Android with their common micro USB ports, etc etc etc,

Just a note, the iPhone 5 does not have more resolution than the iPad mini. It does however have higher ppi.

Carryon.
 
Don Draper

Don Draper would SH|T all over this campaign, then fire the person who created it
 
Typical nature of the world today. Guy gave you 5 services working great for him and you come back with one he didn't mention trying to be snarky.

If you like it and it works for you....use it. If not then don't and try not to rain on someone else's parade at the same time.

iTunes Match, MobileMe, Ping... I'm still using iTunes Match because I already paid for the entire year. Ok?

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Works plenty fine for me....I don't have any issues with it.

Plenty of people had no problems, and plenty of people had problems. Same goes for every other product out there.
 
Wrong, see below.



Sure. According to Geek Bench, which has been referenced by MR several times, the Nexus 10, which was released in November of 2012, pulls a score of 2713 (1), while the Tegra 4 soc in the brand new Vizio Featherweight gets 4148 (2). The iPad 4, in comparison, scores 1776 (3). The iPad 4 thus has about the same CPU power as a Power Mac G5 (4), while all of the new Tegra devices have more power than at least one quad core Intel Xeon model Mac Pro (5), which is a huge difference.

  1. http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1808357
  2. http://www.phonearena.com/news/NVID...omm-Snapdragon-600-in-benchmark-tests_id40160
  3. http://browser.primatelabs.com/ios-benchmarks
  4. http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1795537
  5. http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1754781

Thanks for posting the benchmarks.

However as I recall, when the iPad 4th generation was released, the benchmarks were all in favor of it over any competition Android device. At the time of course.

So I would disagree with you that Apple is "always" behind in hardware. It just depends on what device is newest at any given moment of time. I'm pretty sure that when the 5th generation iPad months from now, those benchmarks will look pretty different.
 
hmm...iPhone's autocorrect didn't fix that.

strange.

Wait, you have an iPhone? :eek:

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You found that on the internet, didn't you?

Haters gonna hate.
Safari gonna snap.
It's over 9000.

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Thanks for posting the benchmarks.

However as I recall, when the iPad 4th generation was released, the benchmarks were all in favor of it over any competition Android device. At the time of course.

So I would disagree with you that Apple is "always" behind in hardware. It just depends on what device is newest at any given moment of time. I'm pretty sure that when the 5th generation iPad months from now, those benchmarks will look pretty different.

Apple is usually behind on hardware speeds. Maybe they're ahead for that week surrounding the new release, but it's one device versus every random thing out there running Android. There's pretty much always one phone that has better benchmarks.

I think the iPad has the best hardware if you look at everything, not just speed. Same with the MacBook Pro. You use something else, and you feel the difference :/
 
This wasn't directed at me but I'll bite.

iCloud
- Let's start off with artificial segmentation. I have a 2009 MacBook Pro with Snow Leopard/Windows 7 installed. How is it that in order to use iCloud, I have to reboot out of the Apple OS? It makes no sense, what happened to keeping it in the ecosystem? :mad:

THIS I agree with. I'm at SL even though I have a legal Mountain Lion copy since I don't want to upgrade for various reasons (no Rosetta, edgy support for my Mac's GPU, and I don't feel like it). It's ridiculous that you have to use WINDOWS to use iCloud. What the heck?! But even just for iOS, iCloud is pretty nice.
 
Apple is usually behind on hardware speeds. Maybe they're ahead for that week surrounding the new release, but it's one device versus every random thing out there running Android. There's pretty much always one phone that has better benchmarks.

I think the iPad has the best hardware if you look at everything, not just speed. Same with the MacBook Pro. You use something else, and you feel the difference :/

Certainly agree there, and I'm really not here to argue specs. I've always been a believer n the overall user experience over spec wars, but even that one week or that one month where Apple's latest iOS device trumps others, like you say, that still debunks any notion that Apple is "always" behind. Or in the exact text of the original poster, "Apple is always behind". That simply obviously isn't true.
 
That is why it is always very hard to justify iPad is better than Galaxy Note 10.1 / Nexus 10 or not. iOS is supposed to run a single task at a time as it doesn't really support multitasking, that's why iOS devices don't require quad-core and 3GB RAM to survive. However Android devices are supposed to survive the thermonuclear war that Fandroid will have with their devices, such as running multiple apps on home screen at a time, watching a movie while using Polaris Office and so on.

Android was not designed with speed in mind, that's why even if their devices have octa-cores they will never be smoother than iOS devices. Android devices are like Hummer, while iOS are like Toyota FT-86, you see the difference between them, benchmark therefore are pointless.

Maybe that's why MacBook Pro requires i7 and some high-end GPU, multitasking do matter in MacBook Pro.
 
Thanks for posting the benchmarks.

However as I recall, when the iPad 4th generation was released, the benchmarks were all in favor of it over any competition Android device. At the time of course.

So I would disagree with you that Apple is "always" behind in hardware. It just depends on what device is newest at any given moment of time. I'm pretty sure that when the 5th generation iPad months from now, those benchmarks will look pretty different.

The Nexus 10 was released 11 days after the iPad 4. Technically, the iPad was in the lead for about a week, but we both know that both devices were planned and designed long before that. Apple consistently ships devices with worse specs, and it isn't due to any time constraints. For example, look at the iPad Mini. To likely save money, Apple shipped a dual core A9 CPU in the device, while at the same time, good competitors have gone from dual core A9 CPUs in their devices, to quad core A9 soc's, to dual A15 chips, to now mainstream quad A15 enabled devices, to brand new cutting edge octa core soc chips in new Samsung devices. Before the Mini was even released it was already several CPU "generations" back, and we still haven't discussed the far outdated screen, huge lack of RAM, slightly old GPU, old cameras etc...

I've always been a believer n the overall user experience over spec wars

As I expected, everyone runs to say how specs don't matter, but take a look down the road. Why can't a 3GS fully run the newest iOS? Right, it doesn't have a fast enough CPU or GPU, or have enough RAM, etc... Back in 2010, I purchased an iPad 1, which now crashes literally every 10-15 minutes due to a severe lack of RAM under iOS 5. Instead of having 512MB like other devices of the time such as the iPhone 4, Apple gimped it, and only installed 256MB. With most devices these days having at least a half a GB of RAM, many games, for example, simply wont run with 256MB RAM, so a ton of stuff wont work on my device. As a consumer, I want a device that will last more than 2 years, especially when it costs at least $500, but with Apple, that just isn't happening. I guarantee that the iPad Mini 1 will be stuck in the same scenario in just a few years as well. App developers will inevitably target faster devices, and won't optimize apps for devices with 5-6 generation old CPUs, and 2-4 times less RAM than the iPad 4 and beyond, leaving the Mini in the dust. That is not a good user experience...
 
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Are you on crack?

What sucks about iCloud?
What is meh about iTunes?
What is meh about iOS 6, maps, etc.?

If you're going to make a statement, back it up with some specifics, or you're just wasting everybody's time.

My experience with iCloud, iTunes, iOS 6, and maps is amazing. Never have things worked so well together and offered up such a rich, engaging experience. The demands that consumers are putting on Apple these days is getting out of control. Appreciate the beauty of engineering you are holding in your hand!

Don't waste your time debunking a troll's inflammatory rhetoric. Being ignored is what they hate, and although counter-intuitive, that's probably still the best policy.
 
I'll just throw in my two cents... You will love the ipad if you like being spoon fed. I have one and its nice... To control my airplay stuff and a couple apps that are just better on Apple.... Oh and find my friends... Helps me keep track of everyone. Next time unless android figures out a good airplay option I will just be purchasing a touch and call it a day.

Beyond that it's so basic and limited it literally has turned into an expensive toy for me and I use android for actual work(ie school.. Work... Regular life...). If you take the time to get familiar with all that android has to offer I seriously laugh at the college kids and parents that drop big money on something that if they need more than basic apps they have hit their limit.

Maybe I am weird but I like having almost a small computer in my pocket... Has saved me trips home multiple times since I do not carry a laptop.
 
No.

OSX is the most solid computer OS on earth easily. Apple make good software buddy.

So please explain why Top fortune companies don't use OSX for running their business critical enterprise software ... lets face it, OSX will not go beyond the SOHO market and for that purpose its fine.

To call it the most solid computer OS on earth is a blatant lie.
 
Your mind may be thinking crack, but this is an Apple forum.

In regards to your advocating for Apple... with it's iCloud a rather inferior product, no too much unlike the two years I tolerated MobileMe's flaws, down-time, and other snafu's.

I find iCloud a very weak effort to improve on Apples MobileMe, which even the must worshipped Steve Jobs admitted was a failure.

The experience I've had with iCloud no matter how much I try to like it, as after all I am a very long time Apple customer, has been pretty bad. Apparently there's many of us who feel the same way for more reasons that I care to list. It would take too much time.

However I did come across this article below which does a pretty good job of fulfilling your desire for specifics. Ironically I didn't think that The Verge (a very Pro-Apple publication) would actually allow bit of honesty to appear on their web site.

I quote:

Apple's broken promise: why doesn't iCloud 'just work'?

Frustrations mount as developers deal with Apple's inability to manage another cloud service


http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/26/4148628/why-doesnt-icloud-just-work

So you had to search on Google to find some reason why iCloud sucks, rather then bringing some from your own experience with it?
 
This wasn't directed at me but I'll bite.

iCloud
- Let's start off with artificial segmentation. I have a 2009 MacBook Pro with Snow Leopard/Windows 7 installed. How is it that in order to use iCloud, I have to reboot out of the Apple OS? It makes no sense, what happened to keeping it in the ecosystem? :mad:

At this very moment, iCloud supports more Windows OSes (Vista, 7, 8) than it does Apple ones (Lion, Mountain Lion)! "iCloud, only available on Apple OSes released after mid-2011 or any Windows OS since 2007!" :rolleyes:

As far as the actual iCloud content goes, it needs to scale with number of products. The person who has three iPod Classics, a Touch and an iPhone should be afforded more space than the guy who only has an iPod Shuffle.

iTunes - several unnecessary changes along with the ongoing belief that people can't choose for themselves. In order to promote their new Song layout, they get rid of 'Cover Flow' and 'Album Cover' in the bottom corner, meaning the only way to view the album artwork is to use the new layout. Sorting has become worse, especially for those who have classical music, search function is worse. On the plus side, it is prettier :rolleyes:

iOS 6/Maps - They have the temerity to put out a half finished Maps app as a flagship component of their 'new' OS. The Maps app is mediocre at very best and highlights the fact that Apple, in its quest for omnipotence, is willing to sacrifice quality. iOS features few overhauls and updates.

Safari - "Can you run the newest version of our browser? Not if you're using Snow Leopard because...... well, just because." :mad:

If Apple had the same approach to software that they did to hardware and customer service, they would be unstoppable.

Hardware - cutting edge; world class.

Customer Service - pererless; class leading; [my MagSafe broke; they hooked me up a new one, gratis, within 5 minutes]

Software
- staid, mundane, segmented (you want this new version of this core OS X program, update your OS)
arbitrary (when you view an album in iTunes and then in Finder it will show two different sizes. This is because despite both programs being made by Apple, one uses megabits and the other uses megabytes, both of which are signified by MB in their respective programs)

I would like to add that the latest iTunes also has messed up the way multiple disced audiobooks are organized. For example, in my previous iTunes when I played an audiobook it would be disc 1 track 1 followed by disc 1 track 2 but in the new version it will play disc 1 track 1 disc 2 track 1 disc 3 track 1 disc 1 track 2 etc. You can read on the apple forums where people are complaining about this. There is no way to rearrange at all. The only thing to do is run a script to add numbers to the front of all the tracks or do this by hand. But what if I don't want numbers there? I have a lot of textbooks that have audio CDs that go along with them that worked great in the previous iTunes. Now everything is all messed up and this is something apple refuses to fix. Why they wanted to "fix" something that was not broken ill never figure out.

Also I had my videos arranged by albums in iTunes before. Now all the videos are put together and I can't tell what is associated with what. It is basically like they were telling me oh no you don't! You can't use iTunes to organize your videos. Better do that in iPhoto. This is frustrating too but the audiobook thing has me really angry.

Can't play audiobooks in the right order. Stupid.
 
You know why I got an iPad? Cause I won it from a college. It's an iPad 2 but I still love mine. Even though it doesn't have a retina screen and it's outdated, it's still perfect for me.

I kind of feel this way about my iPhone 4. I recently renewed my contract but without upgrading to a new phone. I really think I use voice calling so little that a new phone is not with it for me. I always use my iPhone for lots of stuff but the least is for actual voice chatting. People may laugh but I think it would be great to have a iPad mini with retina but with a phone. I don't need to hold the thing up to my head (but I could!) but I could use headphones with a mic to make the calls. Since I carry my phone around in my bag the size wouldn't be an issue for me.
 
This wasn't directed at me but I'll bite.

iCloud
- Let's start off with artificial segmentation. I have a 2009 MacBook Pro with Snow Leopard/Windows 7 installed. How is it that in order to use iCloud, I have to reboot out of the Apple OS? It makes no sense, what happened to keeping it in the ecosystem? :mad:

At this very moment, iCloud supports more Windows OSes (Vista, 7, 8) than it does Apple ones (Lion, Mountain Lion)! "iCloud, only available on Apple OSes released after mid-2011 or any Windows OS since 2007!" :rolleyes:

Upgrade to Mountain Lion then, it's not as if you are going to have to spend much doing it - £28 for Lion and Mountain Lion!
 
"i love how apples marketing always makes it seem like their customers are idiots and need everything spelt out for them :D" statements such as this is another reason why the down vote should NOT have been removed.

I give 10 upvotes for your support for the down vote!
 
Apple telling why you will like, are they fan of "They live" :D ?

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So please explain why Top fortune companies don't use OSX for running their business critical enterprise software ... lets face it, OSX will not go beyond the SOHO market and for that purpose its fine.

To call it the most solid computer OS on earth is a blatant lie.

They don't run it because MS cuts them a deal, and to migrate from Windows to OS X would cost too much. Remember all of their programs are already written for Win32.

OS X is as solid as any of the other OS out there. But by the time it came on the market, Mac OS had been eclipsed by Windows NT, which at the time, was better as it offered pre emptive multitasking and other advantages that the "classic" mac OS didn't and couldn't offer.
 
White hardware

It's interesting that since Jony was given more control of design on a company wide bases the new ads only feature white hardware.
 
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