Apple Launches 'OS X Server' for Mountain Lion for $19.99

[SteveW928]

I'm sorry, maybe I'm just getting old, or have had way too long a week this past week, but I've got a rant to go on...

Let's put this another way then... I don't care if BMW drops the price of their cars to $500 if they ultimately don't work. The issue isn't the price, but that Mt. Lion Server (and Lion server) are useless to most of the people using the previous versions. I'd rather the price stayed at $999 and have a real server product that is actually useful to people who don't want to manage a raw Unix box.

I also doubt things will be 'fixed' in an update, as Lion server was never 'fixed.'

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OS X server is a pain if you ask me, everything is hidden, the user gets charged money for what is essentially a bunch of GUIs over open source components, and when something breaks, you're left about clueless about what is going on (because I'm sure you wouldn't even know where to read messages logged with syslog(), or what a syslog facility even is...).

Or, we'd rather manage things through the nice GUIs and only have to go to the logs and command-line when there are problems.

 

[Bomb617]

I have two Mac (2009 MBP and 2011 MacMini Server) that link to the same apple ID account. Do I need to paid $40 for the server and mountain lion for the MacMini server and another $20 for mountain lion on MBP? Or the $20 upgrade of mountain lion will work on both the MacMini and MBP in one shot and just need to pay the additional $20 for the server function on the MacMini?

Thanks

What if I only pay $20 to download mountain on the Mac MINI server version but not upgrading another $20 for the server upgrade, do I still have a workable mountain lion on the Mac MINI that with no server capability or I have to add $20 to upgrade? Can I upgrade to the server afterward if I finally decide to so so?

I ask this because I didn't use any lion server function at all so I might not need it...

 

[KnightWRX]

Or, we'd rather manage things through the nice GUIs and only have to go to the logs and command-line when there are problems.

Really ? Because as a Unix systems administrator, I can tell you managing things through a GUI is a pain. I manage things through scripts, centralize all my syslog messages for consultation and archival purposes, not to mention cross-correlation (did the SAN fabric 1 drop from just this server or from all servers on that SAN switch...), automate configuration changes using sed/awk to append/substitute lines and send the command to a bunch of different servers using automation tools, etc...

GUIs are a bad way of managing servers. Logging in using a graphical screen, searching around for the proper checkbox, clicking OK, clicking whatever to restart a component, using mouse replay software to "macro" stuff... ugh... Might as well just manage Windows server. Oh wait, Microsoft is making the GUI optional now and sending Windows admins into PowerShell

So I don't know who's this "we" people you refer to, probably not Unix sys admins that's for sure.

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I'd rather the price stayed at $999 and have a real server product that is actually useful to people who don't want to manage a raw Unix box.

OS X server never was a "real server product", sorry. It always was mostly a toy for SMBs or Homes or for deploying Apple clients/server software not made for other platforms.

 

[swordfish5736]

What if I only pay $20 to download mountain on the Mac MINI server version but not upgrading another $20 for the server upgrade, do I still have a workable mountain lion on the Mac MINI that with no server capability or I have to add $20 to upgrade? Can I upgrade to the server afterward if I finally decide to so so?

I ask this because I didn't use any lion server function at all so I might not need it...

You only need to purchase mountain lion once and can install it on your macs. Your mini will function fine without the server component and it can be purchased and downloaded later