That's great, but meanwhile, RIP 5/6 of our family's iMac G5s. Though my brother's PowerMac G5s are still running.My G5 is still running. Quick sentence I know.
That's great, but meanwhile, RIP 5/6 of our family's iMac G5s. Though my brother's PowerMac G5s are still running.My G5 is still running. Quick sentence I know.
I did...hardware. Not too long ago..i was actually able to get my hardware fix...even if it was out of warranty with them. They fixed my fan problem. I had to pay out of pocket..but they were able to fix my computer. If this answer doesn't satisfy you...well...(which I don't think it will)...then let's move on.That doesn't answer my question, what is meant by "supporting"? It's long out of warranty so any repairs would be paid ones. If they still have parts available they're going to take your money and do the repair.
How much did they charge you for the fan replacement?I did...hardware. Not too long ago..i was actually able to get my hardware fix...even if it was out of warranty with them. They fixed my fan problem. I had to pay out of pocket..but they were able to fix my computer. If this answer doesn't satisfy you...well...(which I don't think it will)...then let's move on.
approx 200.How much did they charge you for the fan replacement?
1. Parts and labor?approx 200.
parts and labor...only fan.1. Parts and labor?
2. Was it just a fan or also the heatsink? One or two?
Yeah. I don't know how much 3rd party version cost...or if they even sell it.I guess that’s a $100 fan.
Which fan was it? The front fan? The rear fan? Or the PCIe fan?Yeah. I don't know how much 3rd party version cost...or if they even sell it.
back area.Which fan was it? The front fan? The rear fan? Or the PCIe fan?
Well, dare I say it, I think there should be some kind of exemption to the lead-free solder requirement if the device was designed to last 5-10 years. I do think it's dumb to get rid of it entirely, because then you'll have people throwing phones in the garbage that contain lead. *shrug*
Anyway, I don't think this is a big deal.
Well, dare I say it, I think there should be some kind of exemption to the lead-free solder requirement if the device was designed to last 5-10 years. I do think it's dumb to get rid of it entirely, because then you'll have people throwing phones in the garbage that contain lead. *shrug*
Anyway, I don't think this is a big deal.
When it shipped , it was using GPUs from 2011. In The PC world a 7970 is ancient. I had hoped apple would have had upgrade options for those GPUs.
It's crazy to be asked to pay $1000 to upgrade from an under clocked 7970 to almost a fully clocked 7970 in 2016, for that price you are getting 2x980s.
In a way I wish they ditched the silly can design, so users could upgrade thier GPUs.
The D300/D500/D700 are not a 7970 comparable GPU.
They are compute GPUs. And in terms of performance, they are comparably cheaper and perform pretty similar to their desktop counterparts even in today standards. From dual D300 which are the basic to a dual D700 and adding just 1000$ is relatively cheap compared to a full desktop version which cost almost 3 times as much.
Yes, the mac pro hadn't been updated much. But price relative wise, there is no reason for a mac pro buyer who bought it 2-2.5 years ago, to upgrade now (and people still rocking the G5 or older versions, if the performance is what works for you, there is no reason to upgrade anyway). Once AMD (or nvidia) can supply them with a worthy successor replacement graphics card, and intel provide them with a good upgrade, apple will bring a new one.
proper designed desktop case based on the old Mac Pro design, now you have a machine.
Other manufacturers sell workstations with things called "PCIe slots" that accept ANY card you want!
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I remember reading a review that under benching, the top end machine with D700s throttled due to the PSU being insufficient, very very poor, all so that the damn thing looks sexy.
Yes, I've read the same AnandTech review. It took running a power virus, which were running two benchmarks simultaneously to get it to throttle. They were not able to throttle using a more realistic normal workload.
The fundamental issue there was AnandTech treading , or should I say tip toeing around apple, a power virus is specific code that forces the components to run at maximum capacity, designed to stress and load test components. AnandTech bs'd about running a power virus , they just executed two benchmarks , not the same thing. Basically it does not matter, choose the right programs, day to day ones and you can stress the machine yourself.
Though you are correct for most people, they never push thier machines that far, though the design flaw still exists that the PSU insufficient
Though irrespective how you get the machine to run at 100% for CPU and GPUs , the design flaw is that the PSU is too small for the power needs.
Though the part people are missing is that with the underclocked D700s, the power is just enough . Had they made this thing bigger, no need to cripple and underclock the D700.
Apple placing design over functionality, will not make the dust bin bigger, they will claim huge performance boosts when they choose the next GPU which has lower power needs, and at small PSU can finally run a CPU + 2x GPU at full power .
Perhaps then Apple would need to have made the chassis bigger for the larger PSU.The fundamental issue there was AnandTech treading , or should I say tip toeing around apple, a power virus is specific code that forces the components to run at maximum capacity, designed to stress and load test components. AnandTech bs'd about running a power virus , they just executed two benchmarks , not the same thing. Basically it does not matter, choose the right programs, day to day ones and you can stress the machine yourself.
Though you are correct for most people, they never push thier machines that far, though the design flaw still exists that the PSU insufficient
Though irrespective how you get the machine to run at 100% for CPU and GPUs , the design flaw is that the PSU is too small for the power needs.
Though the part people are missing is that with the underclocked D700s, the power is just enough . Had they made this thing bigger, no need to cripple and underclock the D700.
Apple placing design over functionality, will not make the dust bin bigger, they will claim huge performance boosts when they choose the next GPU which has lower power needs, and at small PSU can finally run a CPU + 2x GPU at full power .
You mean no soldering (containing lead) has ever ended up in a landfill anywhere in the world? And no lead-containing material in a landfill has ever resulted in soil or groundwater lead contamination?I think DOD and critical-infrastructure components -as well as servers are banned from having lead-free solder in their innards. "No case has ever been documented of lead poisoning resulting from solder in electronics."
Apple doesn't guarantee the availability of spare parts for models it has removed from its 'supported' list. It might also decline to repair them. They might still sell replacement parts to third-party repair shops or they might have dumped their stock.In what way? It still runs the latest OS and software. And if it doesn't break down it doesn't need hardware support.
You mean CFLs only became an environmental problem when they moved from bathrooms, basements, offices, etc. into the living room?So it's like MTBE? Or CFL bulbs?
Lead is an environmental problem, but now so are those other 'solutions' to becoming more environmentally sound.
You mean CFLs only became an environmental problem when they moved from bathrooms, basements, offices, etc. into the living room?
FL have been used in huge numbers for decades in office buildings, factories and the like. Why have I not heard you complaining about them ending up in landfills all this time? Society had decades to be trained to not trash FL and recycle them instead. If it didn't care then, why does it suddenly care now?No, CFLs were always an environmental disaster. Walmart just started selling hundreds of thousands a day because they were cheaper for them to buy, and the rubes would pay more for them because 'great deal'.
Now billions of them are in landfills because no one wants to take them back and process them to remove the mercury.
Perhaps then Apple would need to have made the chassis bigger for the larger PSU.
I'm more concerned with what real work it can accomplish, than how many stress testing apps it will run at one time. Benchmarks and data sheets do providing interesting information, don't tell the whole story. Its the end result thats more important than trying to appease the tech spec folks. I'm currently running 45% faster than my 2009 Mac Pro depending on my application. I'm seeing higher performance in DaVinci Resolve as I'm able to use both graphic cards. Something I can't do with my other Mac Pro even with two graphic cards, since only the nMP will support dual cards in the free version.
New mac pro has PCIejust a little proprietary issues with the connectors
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I think DOD and critical-infrastructure components -as well as servers are banned from having lead-free solder in their innards. "No case has ever been documented of lead poisoning resulting from solder in electronics." Here's an interesting read: http://www.skeptically.org/env/id2.html
and also http://www.militaryaerospace.com/ar...-free-solder-a-train-wreck-in-the-making.html