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I don't want to deal with external storage (except for time machine). I still have bad memories about the mess and problems I experienced when I moved my iTunes library to external drive to save space.

I currently have 512GB SSD in my MBP, almost all used. My next Mac will have to have at least 1TB, and I can't see myself ever going back to traditional drives after experiencing the speed and silent operation of SSD. :)
 
I don't want to deal with external storage (except for time machine). I still have bad memories about the mess and problems I experienced when I moved my iTunes library to external drive to save space.

I currently have 512GB SSD in my MBP, almost all used. My next Mac will have to have at least 1TB, and I can't see myself ever going back to traditional drives after experiencing the speed and silent operation of SSD. :)

iTunes match my friend. It's my savior even as a neglected Apple service.
 
Yeah, the lack of 800 series GPUs is disappointing, but in all honesty I just need to build a gaming PC. My 2012 retina model has been struggling to run rather heavily modded Minecraft at 720p while recording—even using an external Elgato encoder. Although I'm also using Audition to record from my Audio-Technica mic, which adds to the load. Had to dumb down the render distance and turn off fancy graphics. I primarily use my Mac for design and photography work, but lately I've been getting into non-console gaming and the GPU leaves me wanting more power. So my thought is this: Next year do I get a Mac Pro with high-end graphics options and 4K Thunderbolt 2 Display to handle gaming (with a dual boot Windows) as well as my next-gen Mac needs, or do I get a 4K iMac and build a PC with thunderbolt output that can hook into the iMac Display? Sounds expensive—might have to wait until 2016, lol.
 
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Originally Posted by Shaun, UK View Post

You can't blame Intel for everything. Apple could have updated the design like they did with the Mac Pro to make it a worthwhile update but they chose not to.


How specifically would you like it redesigned?

Just bought a 13" rMBP and I'm quite happy with the current design.

I agree! The current design is pretty much perfect. Simple, elegant and durable...what else do you want?
 
I thought they might add HDMI 2, but I guess Tim is too busy shooting hoops or building sandcastles at the beach this summer.
 
Yes, it's Intel's fault...

Sadly this is all we are likely to see as far as MacBook Pro (and Air) updates in 2014. And we can thank Intel for that.

Yes, it's Intel's fault...of course because there certainly isn't anything else that could have been updated. How about Nvidia 800M?? Better graphics performance, better power managment, why NOT update a $2500+ dollar laptop with a more current graphics chip??
 
That isn't exactly a shining justification for screwing over their customers.

They're not screwing their customers. In fact, I think it's the best overall strategy given the circumstances. The novelty is enough that it keeps it competitive, and imparts some small value to an immediate purchase of necessity versus the upcoming refresh, while not being so much that those who bought the last major refresh do not feel as though they bought a substandard machine, all while maintaining the aforementioned image of progress. Fundamentally, if they did not do any refresh until next year's release, the only buyers losing on the bargain are those between now and the 2015 refresh, who would get the same clock speed as buyers of the last refresh.
 
My mid-2010 MBP should get me through another year or two, running the Yosemite beta pretty well. This update isn't impressive enough to upgrade.

My early 2011 with an SSD I put in myself also works as great as the day I bought it. However, I think I may do the upgrade this time around to get Retina, wifi a/c, and to get the ability to do Handoff once Yosemite launches.

So are you suggesting I take my iMac to my clients every day? 32GB is NOT a lot if you want to run multiple VMs.

I need to replicate my customer's environments and typically have a Domain controller, database server and an application server running on my 16GB Macbook Pro, plus sometimes one or two workstation images. I've been postponing building a SharePoint 2013 dev environment, since minimal memory requirement is 24GB. I know that's insane, but I need to be able to run it regardless. And this is today. 2 years from now 32GB may not even be enough.

Sorry, but you are the exception here, not the rule. 99.99999% of us are not doing work that involves keeping multiple VM's active at one time. 16GB is more than enough for most of us.

IMO, they could've been a bit more bold with this update.

Storage should be 256GB/512GB/1TB and 512GB/1TB. 128GB are ridiculous on a "Pro" machine.
The RAM upgrade was nice though.

Oh and prices in Portugal remained the same.

The BTO option for the MBP's are exactly as what you're suggesting, at least for the 15". Am I missing something?
 
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Originally Posted by Shaun, UK View Post

You can't blame Intel for everything. Apple could have updated the design like they did with the Mac Pro to make it a worthwhile update but they chose not to.

I agree! The current design is pretty much perfect. Simple, elegant and durable...what else do you want?

Agreed. While the design of the iPhone is also getting old, it works. Everyone wants to see a new design, but all the other new design fads (i.e. curved screens, 3D viewing) aren't exactly changing lives or selling amazingly well. New design for the sake of new design is stupid... but people will always find something to complain about.
 
IMO, they could've been a bit more bold with this update.

Storage should be 256GB/512GB/1TB and 512GB/1TB. 128GB are ridiculous on a "Pro" machine.
The RAM upgrade was nice though.

Oh and prices in Portugal remained the same.
Ya, "Pro" is right. There is nothing Pro about the 13" line....they should have left them as MacBooks which is what they are and the 15"s as the Pros.

Price went up in Canada :(
 
I have been always a Pro user for macbook, but few months ago i took a chance and got a i7 13" macbook air... and ill never go back to the pro again ... i travel alot and leaving my charger at home and having 17hours of battery just does it for me...

ahh not to mention i got it refurbished for 1200$

next one il' consider is the 12' Macbook air
 
I don't get it, 128gb ssd is like having an 8 gig ssd for the iPad. Pretty pointless.

Ssd prices are meant to be coming down so why does apple keep holding back on stepping up the entry level ssd drives?

Pointless for some, but not all. I can easily manage with 128GB without even touching the sides.

Then with a Nifty MiniDrive, I can add 128GB very easily for media storage etc.


How about introducing a black aluminum case. It's overdue.

Never going to happen.
 
The redesign was obviously so insignificant that I didn't notice. I want a change from Silver and Black.

They can't move their pro machines from Intel to ARM. They could buy AMD and develop their own chips but they won't because they don't give a damn about the Mac line any more. Even the CEO says we should all move across to the iPad for our day to day computing.

They'll probably gradually introduce new and larger iPads over the years to replace their consumer Macs one by one. The pro Macs are so insignificant to their sales and profits that they'll keep them with Intel as it's simply not worth the effort to develop their own pro level processors.

What? Stop lying, pal.

Sales of Apple's pro apps are half of Adobe's profits, so they are a huge market with a huge opportunity:

http://alex4d.com/notes/item/pro-apps-2005-2014

And Apple makes more money from Macs than the all PC OEMs combined:

http://www.asymco.com/2014/07/23/is-the-pc-back/

In both cases, Apple's sales have being growing, unlike the industry.

There is a huge market for the Mac. Just because the iPhone is bigger than Microsoft, and despite the iPad's huge potential, it doesn't mean that it makes sense to throw 2 billion $ each quarter (and going up!) out of the window, just because they can.

In 2007 Apple sold 5 million Macs. In 2014 Apple is close to selling 5 million Macs per quarter. Most users are very satisfied, and those fantastic redesigns (especially retina models) are attracting a healthy share of PC buyers.

So, just because they used the same color, the redesign is insignificant. Let's ignore the difference in weight, the thinness... Seriously, you need some sleep and to learn something about the industry, instead of sharing useless FUD.

Conclusion: The Mac, as a business, is better than ever. Fact. This means that there is an opportunity so large, to differentiate the Mac even more and capitalize on Intel's slow pace of innovation while attacking Microsoft's bad taste and overall stupidity. Maybe not this year, but it won't take long (in years) for Apple to ditch intel and ARM. Most likely they are just making a nice emulator to keep things going... Remember: There's Xcode, the mac is exploding, thousands of devs on board. The transition won't take long, and it would be painless.
 
Yes, it's Intel's fault...of course because there certainly isn't anything else that could have been updated. How about Nvidia 800M?? Better graphics performance, better power managment, why NOT update a $2500+ dollar laptop with a more current graphics chip??

I agree Apple should have updated the GPU in the 15" rMBP but the fact is they really didn't have to. Macs are selling well. And retooling with a new GPU for the high end 15" rMBP just because of a processor bump is not, shall we say, cost effective. Sad but true.

If Intel had released Broadwell for this fall you can be sure it would have been worth it to retool and update the GPU then too.
 
I can still do kick ass work on a 2008 Mac Pro. Yes it feels sluggish by todays standards but it's still helluva machine. The 2013 Retina is the same speed as the 2008 Mac Pro 2x Quad Core, so it's still amazing to me that a LAPTOP can be a desktop.
Same here, still rocking the first edition unibody. I don't feel any need to upgrade yet, it would be nice but not a need by any means. I'm doing high end demanding audio work on my machine & it always delivers. I know I can count on it and thats massive in my line of work.
 
I thought they might add HDMI 2, but I guess Tim is too busy shooting hoops or building sandcastles at the beach this summer.

Or playing golf with certain politicians? :D

But seriously - woulda been nice to see a GPU update at the very least.
 
I think I'll survive with the machines I have now (despite being 8 years old - one of them has only 1 GB of RAM.) Next year I'll splurge and replace both my current iMac and MacBook Air with some sort of MacBook Pro, and maybe a 4K external, hopefully.
 
I see everyone is whining per usual. :rolleyes: Blame intel.

I blame Apple for not offering 32GiB RAM and 2TB SSD options.

This does not deserve to be called a refresh.

I'm already looking if the ThinkPad W540 gets a BIOS update for 64GiB.
 
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