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The rufurb price adjustments hit the sweet spot for me. The low end 15" rMBP went down $100, but the high end went down a lot more. I don't know what the price was before this morning, but it was well over $2000. I just snagged the Early 2013 15", 2.7, 16GB, 512 SSD configuration for $1899. That's a much better value to me than the current base config new at $1999.
 
Well I am sorry to hear about your father but you need to relax buddy.
Today's machine, the 15" base model at that, will do exactly what you need it to do and more.

I'm not some ******* who made such an inane comment about looking outdated in a year if you buy a 2014 machine. Truly, if you have as much perspective as you claim to have, you'd know that today's machine will be great next year. The resale value of these machines is so great that if there is a huge spec bump and redesign in 2015, then you can sell your dated and seriously ugly 2014 machine and buy new. You said you needed it for Uni and need suggests that you need something now and you can't wait until 2015. Think about it.

How well can the MBP handle the resolution? Does it have a large affect on performance? Sorry if this seems like a dumb question, but I may as-well ask it. I also have someone telling me that the Graphics card is garbage. What is your opinion on the card?

Thanks in advance for answering questions, if you do.
 
There's only a negligible price difference between the MBA and lower spec rMBP's and you are getting a lot more for your cash with the Pro.
The MBA and rMBP serve different target markets. Sure, the 13" rMBP is a great machine, but there are usages where the MBA wins over the heftier rMBP. I have a rMBP at home, and when I am on the go, I'll take the MBA anytime.
 
Tiny hard drives still :rolleyes:
Ridiculous.
Need Fusion Drive as standard in all mbp's.

Sounds like you never used a rMBP with a big SSD...... They are sooooo fast that nothing slower will ever be acceptable again. Fusion drive is just a POS compared to there SSDs!
 
It's a spec bump. Chill guys. Apple got these components cheaper and passed the savings on instead of selling you old hardware.

Some of you people expect a new freaking design every 6 months.
 
I've been "considering" a 13MBP but to be quite honest I don't absolutely need one right now.

My 2011 iMac is still running fine, but I promised myself on the next big update I'd be making a purchase.

I'm guessing this isn't really considered a "big" update?
 
I bought the mid-tier 13" rMBP last week.

Am I correct in understanding that the only change to that tier has been bumping the processor by .2 GHz? Would it be worth my time and effort to bring in to my local retail store and exchange it (since I'm within the 14-day window)?

It really does seem like a stretch to ask $200 more for the mid-tier now that RAM is the same as the lower tier.
 
I've been "considering" a 13MBP but to be quite honest I don't absolutely need one right now.

My 2011 iMac is still running fine, but I promised myself on the next big update I'd be making a purchase.

I'm guessing this isn't really considered a "big" update?

Nope. Everything points to next year being the next "big" one, when Intel's next gen Broadwell processors come out. And Apple typically updates the GPU (and just about everything else) at the same time, so they don't have to shuffle around the insides every six months.

I mean, the current gen is no slouch, and it's still the fastest Macbook ever, but if you don't need it, waiting until next year is probably worthwhile.
 
Same crappy video card ? GT nVidia 750 m ? Not even a GTX ???

That card is almost 2 years old now, I have it on a crappy HP and it is BARELY capable of handling any games

The problem is your computer and your expectations, not the card. I play lots of games, even brand new ones fine on my late 2011 MacBook Pro with a 512MB Radeon HD 6750M. Yes, I'd love a better card but I'm still able to play new games. I have to keep textures lower quality but I play the new Tomb Raider, Skyrim (with beefed up textures), Rust, Far Cry 3, Civ V, and more. This is also using the default 5400RPM drive. I get good quality and acceptable frame rates on all the games with a card 2 years older than the 750m.
 
Sounds like you never used a rMBP with a big SSD...... They are sooooo fast that nothing slower will ever be acceptable again. Fusion drive is just a POS compared to there SSDs!

I paid £50 to upgrade my MBP to a 1.1 TB Fusion Drive.
What are you paying for a 1TB SSD Drive?
 
You are jesting right? A Fusion drive would be much much slower than a pure SSD. Fusion drives are more like HDD with larger cache which will suffer from many misses if you ever want to try something new.
SSDs are the future and spinning drives are on their way out, even in servers. Deal with it.

If you really a 'pro' at video and music production then you'd be able to afford a 1TB SSD easily or a thunderbolt raid or even a mac pro. :rolleyes:

A fusion drive IS an SSD plus a normal HD as well.
e.g. the Fusion Drive in my Dad's iMac is an 128Gig SSD and a 1TB spinning HD.
They just called the combination of both drives, plus their dynamic allocation software a "Fusion Drive".
Put your apps and OS on the SSD part.
So no, a pure SSD is not much faster at all.

They want the mbp's 512Gig SSD as well as £400 in exchange for a 1TB SSD, which is crap.

The SSD+HD option (Fusion Drive) is cheap enough to be available in all mbp configs fitted as standard, but they chose to make it thinner, lol.

As for the last comment about how much money I make, that's not the point. If you want to get screwed over by Apple then bend over, but don't expect me to take it too.
 
so when does everyone think the major update for retina will come? mid 2015?

I say October 2015. At this point, Apple should just wait until Skylake before making a major redesign. Broadwell will be one of the shortest-lived processors in Intel history.

They could do what they did with the original MacBook Air and do a major re-design using one chip (e.g. October 2010 Core 2 Duo) and then release a much more powerful upgrade 8 months later (July 2011 Sandy Bridge model), but I think that's much more likely for the Air line (or the rumored 12" design) than the Pro.
 
I bought the mid-tier 13" rMBP last week.

Am I correct in understanding that the only change to that tier has been bumping the processor by .2 GHz? Would it be worth my time and effort to bring in to my local retail store and exchange it (since I'm within the 14-day window)?

It really does seem like a stretch to ask $200 more for the mid-tier now that RAM is the same as the lower tier.

Honestly, if the Apple store isn't too far away, I'd just do it. It's a free upgrade, after all.

And at the very least, it will probably bump up the resale value quite a bit when the time comes to sell it on. I mean, it may only technically be a week older, but to a person buying it secondhand, they would only see "2013" vs "2014". Just something to keep in mind.
 
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