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Apple Launches Retina MacBook Pros with Faster Haswell Processors, More RAM Standard

fpsBeaTt said:
What a vapid comment. People are expressing, in a variety of different ways, their irritation that a premium brand is charging a premium price for out of date technology.

The 750m is pathetic today, it was pathetic when it was launched (although there was nothing better at the time, so that's in no way Apple's fault), being a rebranded 650m. Today, the 850m is available, and offers a significant performance increases; Apple neglected to include this, which is especially apparent in combination with a lack of available CPU improvements.

So yes, there is a sense of entitlement, which is ENTIRELY JUSTIFIED; people who spend $2500+ on a brand new MBP have a completely reasonable expectation that they'll be getting graphical hardware that isn't a hangover from 2012.
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My point is that instead of complaining don't buy it, if

you think it's old technology
too expensive for the specs
configurations are not optimized
doesn't do what you want etc.

and the list can go on and on.

Knowing that another generation is coming, why even bother with this update?

I am on a 2008 17" MBP and it does all of what I need it to do.
That is the same for people who currently have an MBP. None of their stuff stops working , just because newer tech is now available.

Yes, it would be nice to have the latest of everything, but I don't have that kind of money.

So, every time I checked out a new MBP and added all the top features it's well over $ 3,500, which I cannot afford.

I tend to keep my Macs until they die and then buy the generation before in refurbs.

In summary if it's not what you want don't blame Apple, just don't buy it. If enough consumers turn away from MBPs they'll get the picture.

But, they do not have to, because MBPs are the best out there, if you like OSX and the Apple ecosystem
 
Mr. Gates said:
Same crappy video card ? GT nVidia 750 m ? Not even a GTX ???

That card is almost 2 years old now, I have it on a crappy HP and it is BARELY capable of handling any games
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GTX would use more power, and therefore emit more heat. It's a Pro laptop, not a gaming powerhouse.

As for barely capable - don't talk rot.
 
KPOM said:
I say October 2015. At this point, Apple should just wait until Skylake before making a major redesign. Broadwell will be one of the shortest-lived processors in Intel history.

They could do what they did with the original MacBook Air and do a major re-design using one chip (e.g. October 2010 Core 2 Duo) and then release a much more powerful upgrade 8 months later (July 2011 Sandy Bridge model), but I think that's much more likely for the Air line (or the rumored 12" design) than the Pro.
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Not a chance skylake will be out so soon after Broadwell. Come June next year, my predication is another lengthy delay.
 
d0nK said:
Tiny hard drives still :rolleyes:
Ridiculous.
Need Fusion Drive as standard in all mbp's.
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Good luck fitting anything with spinning platters into a retina MBP? The reason they're able to make them that thin is no HDD enclosure and no ODD. . .


This makes me feel less special about having 16 GB RAM in my MBP. Hopefully 16 GB DIMMs will come out so I can feel better about myself again :p
 
I for one am enthused.

Wel…. it's something. I was waiting for the update because my mid-2010 MacBook Pro is starting to get old.

PROS:
1. Its here for the Student Sales event, not sure if Ill snap it up just like that, but I just might….
2. More RAM. That's nice… what scared me about Intel Iris Graphics is that it borrows from the RAM when under load, so having only 4GB sounded terrible.
3. My current Pro wouldn't be able handle continuity and all those great features coming to Yosemite.

CONS:
1. After 4 years, buying the low end will actually decrease my SSD size from 250GB to 128. Will have to bump that with a Transcend SD Card.
 
Dilster3k said:
"gets even better with... a free upgrade to Yosemite"

But it's already free?
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The price cuts are welcome. Must be at least 6 months before the next refresh if they bothered to place these chips machines now. Updgraded base RAM is also a welcome move.

As for the GPU, the less said the better. It's bad enough that the card has been used for 2 years already. The obsession with thiness needs to take a back seat for a while. Concentrate on performance for a few years.

The best selling point is a free upgrade that everyone can get.
 
ValSalva said:
Sadly this is all we are likely to see as far as MacBook Pro (and Air) updates in 2014. And we can thank Intel for that.
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Tell me about it! Remember when Jobs went yelling at Intel for being too damn slow??? I was hoping Broadwell would be introduced this year for both laptop and MacPro! One more year!? That's just great when theirs no competition !
 
gnasher729 said:
I paid £50 to upgrade my MBP to a 1.1 TB Fusion Drive.
What are you paying for a 1TB SSD Drive?
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Fusion drives aren't as fast as an SSD; they're about midway between an SSD and a HDD.

Is it more expensive than some other drives with the same capacity? Perhaps. But bear in mind, that one has almost half the read/write speeds of the standard Apple one. For an average user, is that worthwhile? Almost certainly not. For a power user? Perhaps.

Personally, I think I'm going to get the one with the 512GB SSD, and buy a $250, 3TB USB 3.0 external hard drive. I don't need more than 512GB for applications, and I don't need an SSD for storage. It's all about knowing your limits, and your requirements.
 
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Here's hoping by the time I buy a new MBP 512GB SSD and 16GB RAM is standard. :D

My 2012 15" cMBP is still going incredibly strong so I can wait until 2017/2018. :p
 
SMIDG3T said:
Why are the majority of people on here blaming Apple for the lack of updates? It's Intel's fault, it's really as simple as that.

Just be grateful that Apple are updating them and stop being grumpy.
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What about the regular MacBook Poor? :(
 
thunng8 said:
Not a chance skylake will be out so soon after Broadwell. Come June next year, my predication is another lengthy delay.
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This time next year we will see Broadwell! Skylake will be delayed why? Wait for it,wait for it?.. Their is no competition so no reason to launch it! :eek:BOOM
 
Shaun said:
You can't blame Intel for everything. Apple could have updated the design like they did with the Mac Pro to make it a worthwhile update but they chose not to.
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How specifically would you like it redesigned?

Just bought a 13" rMBP and I'm quite happy with the current design.
 
Chmeeee said:
The rufurb price adjustments hit the sweet spot for me. The low end 15" rMBP went down $100, but the high end went down a lot more. I don't know what the price was before this morning, but it was well over $2000. I just snagged the Early 2013 15", 2.7, 16GB, 512 SSD configuration for $1899. That's a much better value to me than the current base config new at $1999.
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That hardware is horribly outdated. Sorry you should have gotten late-2013 model, big difference.
 
SMIDG3T said:
Why are the majority of people on here blaming Apple for the lack of updates? It's Intel's fault, it's really as simple as that.

Just be grateful that Apple are updating them and stop being grumpy.
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Intel went up to Apple and told them to not update the GPU? :eek:

Blame Intel! :mad:
 
Jcknows0 said:
That hardware is horribly outdated. Sorry you should have gotten late-2013 model, big difference.
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The nearest compatible late 2013 looks like this:

E2013: $1899 i7-2.7 16GB 512GB GT650M
L2013: $1949 i7-2.3 16GB 256GB Iris Pro

I know there are some speed improvements for the SSD and battery life improvements, but are those worth paying slightly more for half the space and 15% slower processor?
 
Jcknows0 said:
That hardware is horribly outdated. Sorry you should have gotten late-2013 model, big difference.
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I would not say horribly outdated. But I agree the high-end late 2013 seems to be the best deal at least in the UK refurb store.
 
I'm very out of the loop, do these processors/new ram chips/newer SSDs/etc offer a significant boost from the Mid 2012 rMBPs?
 
ricci said:
Tell me about it! Remember when Jobs went yelling at Intel for being too damn slow??? I was hoping Broadwell would be introduced this year for both laptop and MacPro! One more year!? That's just great when theirs no competition !
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And how right he was. These chips can be developed at will for immediate availability.

I think Tim Cook should go back and negotiate with Motorola to make them all Power PC G6 or so.
 
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