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A fusion drive IS an SSD plus a normal HD as well.
e.g. the Fusion Drive in my Dad's iMac is an 128Gig SSD and a 1TB spinning HD.
They just called the combination of both drives, plus their dynamic allocation software a "Fusion Drive".
Put your apps and OS on the SSD part.
So no, a pure SSD is not much faster at all.

They want the mbp's 512Gig SSD as well as £400 in exchange for a 1TB SSD, which is crap.

The SSD+HD option (Fusion Drive) is cheap enough to be available in all mbp configs fitted as standard, but they chose to make it thinner, lol.

As for the last comment about how much money I make, that's not the point. If you want to get screwed over by Apple then bend over, but don't expect me to take it too.

Erm...SSDs are faster than fusion drives. The algorithms used to allocate files to the SSD part over the HDD part are not optimal. In addition access files on the HDD would have increased latency, such as opening large files. Don't try to deny the laws of physics, you weakens your argument.
A fusion drive would also increase the size of the MBP which would be a step back.
The last point is the point you should take to heart. Apple rMBP is a premium product, they are usually ahead of the curve (such as getting rid of optical drives) and if you don't want to pay above the price of the hardware, don't buy apple, buy another product. :rolleyes:
 
MACs are just getting boring. No real new look or style for years, damn at least add some touchscreen to it. I know you guys don't care for Windows, but at least your not stuck with the same played out looking laptop and same old OS, sometimes trying something new is fun.

Hum...Macs are for getting work done, much cheaper ways to have fun. Touch screen laptops?!? Are you serious? Same old OS?!? Yosemite is just around the corner.

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It should be a sign to everyone that unless you buy a new mbp DO NOT upgrade to Yosemite! If you do, your computer will slow down and not work as well. Apple does this on purpose so that you will buy a new mbp with the hardware needed to run the new software properly. They do it with iPhones too. Never upgrade the OS to a version newer than your computer came with.

Its called obsolete...It happens since the dawn of the first computer. Can't run windows 8 on a 286 PC.
 
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It should be a sign to everyone that unless you buy a new mbp DO NOT upgrade to Yosemite! If you do, your computer will slow down and not work as well. Apple does this on purpose so that you will buy a new mbp with the hardware needed to run the new software properly. They do it with iPhones too. Never upgrade the OS to a version newer than your computer came with.

I am running the Public Beta on a mid-2010 MBP and it runs quite fine. Even for a Beta it's quite responsive and stable.

The only reason to move to a new Mac is because it looks just so much better on a Retina display. But power wise it's the same as Mavericks.
 
The only update they needed were bigger hard drives.

The top-end model with a 512GB SSD is the lowest viable option for the sort of people who actually need a MacBook Pro.

I have a 13" MacBook Pro from last year. It has 256 gb and isn't nearly full. Sure, would survive just fine with a MacBook Air, but I prefer the better screen and graphics of the pro, and 256 gb works for me.
 
Yes. In fact, the sales rep at the retail store rang up the purchase of the computer, swiped my credit card, and handed me a gift card. Then rang up the applecare, swiped the education gift card, and then swiped my credit card for the balance ($83).


Wonderful news, thank you!
 
No need. I have a non Retina MBP and still love it. Granted, it's hi-def, and anti-glare, but it's still not retina.

I have one too, and it's fast enough for my needs, but I didn't buy it recently. Just for the CPU/RAM/HD specs alone, it's a bad value to buy the one Apple sells today.

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Yes. It's a 2009 MBP I upgraded with an ssd. Otherwise even mountain lion is slow on it. Haven't bothered to upgrade the ram since no need.

I've got the same computer with an HDD instead of an SSD (updated my signature). I think that's the reason. Mavericks on this laptop was hardly useable for the few months I had it and seemed to access the hard drive a lot more than it should. Mountain Lion is slower than SL but not bad and easily worth the extra compatibility.
 
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I agree, the mid 13" rMBP has just become a very bad deal. 200$ extra just for the additional 128GB SSD storage? No way...
Too bad, I really had my eyes on this model.

Now it's gonna be the entry 15" model or I'm going to wait for the rMBA. :confused:
 
Yup - I'd have pulled the trigger if the mid-range 13 inch had moved to 16GB/512GB. Heck - I could well have gone for 16GB/256GB. As it is I'm going to wait it out and check out the 12 inch MBA.
 
I agree, the mid 13" rMBP has just become a very bad deal. 200$ extra just for the additional 128GB SSD storage? No way...
Too bad, I really had my eyes on this model.

Now it's gonna be the entry 15" model or I'm going to wait for the rMBA. :confused:

You've gone from a 13" notebook to a 15" full sized powerhouse to a rMBA? What do you actually want? Your post doesn't make sense.
 
I still can't believe the same year-and-a-half-old GPU is in that thing. Oh, what I would give for the price to still be $2600 with a GTX-850M.

It's really a 2+ year old GPU considering 750M is a re-badged 650M (the 650M can easily overclock all day long to the same frequencies) from the 2012 rMBP 15.
 
Erm...SSDs are faster than fusion drives. The algorithms used to allocate files to the SSD part over the HDD part are not optimal. In addition access files on the HDD would have increased latency, such as opening large files. Don't try to deny the laws of physics, you weakens your argument.
A fusion drive would also increase the size of the MBP which would be a step back.
The last point is the point you should take to heart. Apple rMBP is a premium product, they are usually ahead of the curve (such as getting rid of optical drives) and if you don't want to pay above the price of the hardware, don't buy apple, buy another product. :rolleyes:

Not to mention, Fusion drives are still SATA.

You're going to get much faster speeds from the PCIe drives in the rMBP.
 
Thankful for 16GB... BUT...

Apple is still continuing to screw professionals who need a REAL gfx card for 3D and video fx editing.

NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M should really be an option in the 15" model priced at $1999... I'm not saying it should be included at that price point.. But it should be an option to add.

I don't need the faster CPU or extra 256gb of hard drive space. I should be able to get add on the NVIDIA card for $100-200. It's just a way of bending over power users and pros that other companies just don't do.
 
I've been on the fence about whether to upgrade or not with all the talk about the Broadwell processor (I have a 13" 2009 MacBook that I've upgraded the ram to 8GB and put and SSD in). I've been antsy to upgrade because I'm bottle necking at my CPU so hard as of late... But your post has definitely moved me more toward waiting till next year (if I can wait that long).

Anywho, thanks for the great post and the links to the other articles.

I was in the same boat. mid 2009 MBP with 8GB and SSD.

I ended up buying a new 13" rMBP with 16GB, and I couldn't be happier.

It all depends on how much you will use it NOW.

For me, the 5 year old processor was costing me too much time. The great battery life is a huge plus for me, as well as the screen.
 
Got my wife a 11" Macbook Air for $650 pre-tax...

Best deal I've ever seen on a Mac at Best Buy last month... She's in college so she got $150 off coupon.. and Best Buy had the 11" Air discounted $100 already.. so $650 pre-tax was the best price I've ever seen for a new Mac.

I think you can still get on for like $750 though.. which is still a great deal.
 
Apple is still continuing to screw professionals who need a REAL gfx card for 3D and video fx editing.

NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M should really be an option in the 15" model priced at $1999... I'm not saying it should be included at that price point.. But it should be an option to add.

I don't need the faster CPU or extra 256gb of hard drive space. I should be able to get add on the NVIDIA card for $100-200. It's just a way of bending over power users and pros that other companies just don't do.

Excluding the Mac Pro, Macs have been moving towards the home user and average consumer for years now. In fact they are even positioned as a lifestyle/fashion object!

I still don't understand why so many people haven't worked it out that the high-end Professional market is a thing of the past for Apple.

Yes, many Macs are more than capable for Professional work, but if you want high end GPU's and configurable options then a Mac is not for you any more!

That said, Macs are more than capable machines, they just don't cover the more demanding professionals any more like you who need decent GPU options.
 
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