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Apple Launches Retina MacBook Pros with Faster Haswell Processors, More RAM Standard

macduke said:
Yeah, the lack of 800 series GPUs is disappointing, but in all honesty I just need to build a gaming PC. My 2012 retina model has been struggling to run rather heavily modded Minecraft at 720p while recording—even using an external Elgato encoder. Although I'm also using Audition to record from my Audio-Technica mic, which adds to the load. Had to dumb down the render distance and turn off fancy graphics. I primarily use my Mac for design and photography work, but lately I've been getting into non-console gaming and the GPU leaves me wanting more power. So my thought is this: Next year do I get a Mac Pro with high-end graphics options and 4K Thunderbolt 2 Display to handle gaming (with a dual boot Windows) as well as my next-gen Mac needs, or do I get a 4K iMac and build a PC with thunderbolt output that can hook into the iMac Display? Sounds expensive—might have to wait until 2016, lol.
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What about a dual-boot hackintosh?
 
Steve121178 said:
You've gone from a 13" notebook to a 15" full sized powerhouse to a rMBA? What do you actually want? Your post doesn't make sense.
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I've gone nowhere so far, I'm still undecided as my post should suggest :rolleyes:

The mid 13" is a bad deal as I pointed out.
Base 13" with its tiny SSD is no option.
Base 15" just became an even better deal because of the 16GB of RAM.
And yeah, I don't know what to expect from a potential rMBA.

For me it's not about the size, I could settle with anything between 12" and 15".
It's about what I get for my money, price/performance ratio, I think you know that term.

And no, I actually don't need the powerhouse performance of the 15" right now. But since I'm usually keeping my machines until they "die", the extra performance of the 15" would be welcome in the later years of its life cycle.

But what I wanted to discuss is that the mid 13" seemed to be kind of a sweet spot for most customers. This seems to have changed after today's refresh.
 
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I bought a MacBook Pro 2 weeks ago in the Apple Store Online. I pushed the frequency to 2.6 ghz (3.8 TB) so I had to wait. My MacBook Pro will arrive tomorrow. Any chance that I receive the new MacBook with 2.8 ghz (4.0 TB) ? Or will I have to swap it just after received it ? ^^
NB : My MacBook was supposed to arrive on July 24th but he went back to Shanghai ... When I called the customer service they said a part of the MacBook wasn't available so he had to come back to Asia ... Any chance it's the new i7 ? Or it's just dreaming ? ^^
 
I would have loved the iMac or macpro

if they actually updated the iMac first it would have been more convenient for myself. It was my preference but I need a new top end model badly. My 4 yr old iMac is running on borrowed time and the air can't handle the tasks i need so I was all prepared for a purchase of the MBP. Had the money saved....then they up the price 50 dollars. I feel like I was just kicked in the boobs.
 
Deepdragon said:
I don't understand why Apple is still keeping this old non-Retina MacBook Pro 13" from 2012 in its lineup? It's way too expensive for the outdated hardware it offers.

Normally, Apple is known for being very radical in getting rid of old products and services. The future clearly is the Retina MacBook Pro line, so why still offering the old thing that's two years old already? Even a MacBook Air would be pricier for the same display size. The only argument for the old MacBook Pro would be the SuperDrive and the bigger internal storage... but who still needs an optical drive? And HDDs totally suck nowadays. I would never go back from SSD from HDD.
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For whatever reason (college students and entry level consumers while I worked at apple) the 13" cMBP is still their best selling model. Until that changes, I don't see it going away in the near future.
 
Is it just me or did apple just change the pricing on apple care? (at least in Canada anyways)
 
pedromcm.pm said:
What? Stop lying, pal.

Sales of Apple's pro apps are half of Adobe's profits, so they are a huge market with a huge opportunity:

http://alex4d.com/notes/item/pro-apps-2005-2014

And Apple makes more money from Macs than the all PC OEMs combined:

http://www.asymco.com/2014/07/23/is-the-pc-back/

In both cases, Apple's sales have being growing, unlike the industry.

There is a huge market for the Mac. Just because the iPhone is bigger than Microsoft, and despite the iPad's huge potential, it doesn't mean that it makes sense to throw 2 billion $ each quarter (and going up!) out of the window, just because they can.

In 2007 Apple sold 5 million Macs. In 2014 Apple is close to selling 5 million Macs per quarter. Most users are very satisfied, and those fantastic redesigns (especially retina models) are attracting a healthy share of PC buyers.

So, just because they used the same color, the redesign is insignificant. Let's ignore the difference in weight, the thinness... Seriously, you need some sleep and to learn something about the industry, instead of sharing useless FUD.

Conclusion: The Mac, as a business, is better than ever. Fact. This means that there is an opportunity so large, to differentiate the Mac even more and capitalize on Intel's slow pace of innovation while attacking Microsoft's bad taste and overall stupidity. Maybe not this year, but it won't take long (in years) for Apple to ditch intel and ARM. Most likely they are just making a nice emulator to keep things going... Remember: There's Xcode, the mac is exploding, thousands of devs on board. The transition won't take long, and it would be painless.
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If you bothered to read my OP I said that Apple would start to replace their "consumer" Mac line with the iPad over the next few years leaving the "pro" Mac line unchanged with Intel processors.

Fact 1: Apple makes 75% of it's revenue & profits from the iPhone and iPad

Fact 2: The entire Mac product line accounts for only 10% of Apple's revenue & profits

Fact 3: Apple doesn't care about software - look at what they did to iLife, iWork, Aperture, FCP, etc

Fact 4: Even the CEO thinks we should all spend 90% of our daily computing on the iPad rather than the Mac

Fact 5: Apple's primary drive into enterprise has been with the iPad - just look at the recent deal with IBM. You think IBM are also going to make OSX apps to go with the iOS apps? Not a chance. You'll still need to invest heavily in IBM hardware plus windows and/or linux hardware.

Fact 6: Apple repeatedly quote the percentage of Fortune 500 companies using the iPhone and iPad. I have never once seen them quote what percentage of those companies also use the Mac.

Fact 7: For all your numbers the Mac still accounts for a paltry 5-10% market share around the world with Windows having a dominant 80% in most places. Even Steve Jobs admitted Apple lost that war a long time ago. That is why they moved on to iOS. A new OS with non of the hangups of the past.

Fact 8: iOS and the iPad has a significantly greater market share and market penetration than the Mac ever had and ever will have. This is the future for Apple.
 
Steve121178 said:
What don't you like? Looks the best lineup of MacBook's ever IMO. Yeah, GPU could be better, but that's the only black mark against the 15" model.
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No the GPU is less powerful than a 2006 graphic card, that is UNACCEPTABLE.

Then, I was waiting for the mid-high 13" model update, since for the price, the configuration was way too weak.

They didn't update these model, AT ALL, and if you want to double to 16GB it's still THREE times the price of the unit on the market...

So no, I've had a Powerbook, a Macbook White, a Macbook Air, but Macs have become to much of overprice piece of very weak and outdated tech, especially the graphic cards...I prefer to just switch to PC again.
 
Shaun said:
If you bothered to read my OP I said that Apple would start to replace their "consumer" Mac line with the iPad over the next few years leaving the "pro" Mac line unchanged with Intel processors.

Fact 1: Apple makes 75% of it's revenue & profits from the iPhone and iPad

Fact 2: The entire Mac product line accounts for only 10% of Apple's revenue & profits

Fact 3: Apple doesn't care about software - look at what they did to iLife, iWork, Aperture, FCP, etc

Fact 4: Even the CEO thinks we should all spend 90% of our daily computing on the iPad rather than the Mac

Fact 5: Apple's primary drive into enterprise has been with the iPad - just look at the recent deal with IBM. You think IBM are also going to make OSX apps to go with the iOS apps? Not a chance. You'll still need to invest heavily in IBM hardware plus windows and/or linux hardware.

Fact 6: Apple repeatedly quote the percentage of Fortune 500 companies using the iPhone and iPad. I have never once seen them quote what percentage of those companies also use the Mac.

Fact 7: For all your numbers the Mac still accounts for a paltry 5-10% market share around the world with Windows having a dominant 80% in most places. Even Steve Jobs admitted Apple lost that war a long time ago. That is why they moved on to iOS. A new OS with non of the hangups of the past.

Fact 8: iOS and the iPad has a significantly greater market share and market penetration than the Mac ever had and ever will have. This is the future for Apple.
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1. At some point, the iPod was making most of Apple's revenue and profits. Look where the iPod is now.

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3. Apple is mostly giving their software away. If they can make the software better, they would. But in this case, other companies like Adobe are making fantastic products like Lightroom that you don't need Aperture anymore really.

4. Just because you can spend 90% of your time on an iPad doesn't mean you should. I could do most of the tasks on my iPhone too. It doesn't mean it's the right tool for the job.

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7. Steve Jobs said in 2010 that they are not at war with Windows. For Apple to succeed doesn't mean Microsoft has to lose. They just want to make great products.

iPads are great for consumption, but for creation, the Mac is still a lot better.
 
Toltepeceno said:
Did you see the post I responded to? The person claimed intel was the reason apple was not upgrading, intel did not stop apple from upgrading the hard drives.
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They are SSDs, not hard drives. I wish they were sold with hard drives.
 
Thunderhawks said:
My point is that instead of complaining don't buy it, if

you think it's old technology
too expensive for the specs
configurations are not optimized
doesn't do what you want etc.

and the list can go on and on.

Knowing that another generation is coming, why even bother with this update?

I am on a 2008 17" MBP and it does all of what I need it to do.
That is the same for people who currently have an MBP. None of their stuff stops working , just because newer tech is now available.

Yes, it would be nice to have the latest of everything, but I don't have that kind of money.

So, every time I checked out a new MBP and added all the top features it's well over $ 3,500, which I cannot afford.

I tend to keep my Macs until they die and then buy the generation before in refurbs.

In summary if it's not what you want don't blame Apple, just don't buy it. If enough consumers turn away from MBPs they'll get the picture.

But, they do not have to, because MBPs are the best out there, if you like OSX and the Apple ecosystem
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Thunderhawks is my doppleganger. I'm still running a 2009 2.66GHz Quadcore Mac Pro. I'd love a new 2013 Mac Pro with dual GPU's, it would significantly speed up RAW exports to JPEG in Capture One Pro 7. But the thought of buying $3,500 machine with an additional expense of buying a gaggle of external drives to replace my internal drives squashes the itch for a new machine a might bit quick. ...and my old and ever aging machine, including the ancient video card, is still a workhorse with three SSD's, and a USB 3 card (for importing 90GB worth of photos ever Sunday morning).

Edit: I plan on holding out for at least another 2-3 years if I can before I upgrade my 2009 Mac Pro. I prefer to drive them into the ground. By then I'm hoping at least one two new versions of the current Mac Pro will have made it's way through the retail channels so I can upgrade to a refurb on the cheap. ...the only brand spanking new computer I've ever purchased is the 2013 MacBook Air - because I wanted that PCIe boot drive. :D
 
farewelwilliams said:
use your Visa or Discover card, I think they add extended warranty?
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As I read the terms on mine, coverage is limited and difficult to successfully claim against. I consider Applecare a required line-item when purchasing.

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Toltepeceno said:
Then I asked if apple used intel hard drives. Both are questions.
The person I responded to claimed intel was the reason apple was not upgrading, intel did not stop apple from upgrading the hard drives.
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Indeed, what stopped Apple from upgrading the hard drives is that NO HARD DRIVES ARE IN USE.
 
OllyW said:
No, but you only asked if Intel make hard drives. ;)
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Of course I did. The first question you responded to I asked if intel makes hard drives. The separate post you just responded to just now asked if apple used intel hard drives. Two different questions in two separate posts.;)

The person I responded to claimed intel was the reason apple was not upgrading, intel did not stop apple from upgrading the hard drives.
 
Does this mean that there's a slightly larger chance now that we may possibly see an update to the Mac Mini in the near future?
 
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