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Nice. I had to pay for my Apple Watch to be replaced and the replacement done the same. due to the screen crack it just broke off on the second watch.. Thanks for screwing me Apple.
 
Jony Ive, though he created some really cool designs, has a history of consumer products littered with flaws that developed once his 'art' was used in the real world. Going back to the G4 cube, which developed cracks in its polycarbonate shell soon after its release.

Before that, the white iBooks developed cracks around the edges of the laptop.

Fast forward to the 'innovative' design of the butterfly keyboard (which turned out to be horribly flawed) and several problems in between.

I've said it before, but to me, a great designer makes stuff that not only looks cool, but also holds up in the world against wear, tear, weather, and human use. Jony Ive's designs too often failed the second part of that equation.
This is why you aren’t a designer.
 
Nice one took my space black series 2 in and it’s getting replaced with a series 3 free of charge.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if Jony Ive left because he got put under technical supervision after the keyboard fiasco. Maybe it will be in someone's tell-all book in 15 years.
You think he alone designed the butterfly keyboard? As far as I know his name isn’t on any butterfly keyboard patents. The one below for example has 5 investors listed and they all look to be hardware engineers.

http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph...96".PGNR.&OS=DN/20180137996&RS=DN/20180137996
 
You're right - I'd much rather see the actual data about the number of issues.
To eliminate this speculation, all Apple has to do is publish numbers (estimated units or approximate %) about the reported problem.

[Of course, there is no way to aggregate all the information about devices which are repaired by unauthorized shops or devices that are unrepaired/recycles/discarded]
they would only do this if it was a true low number (ppm) - Remember how they denied the existence of a major flaw with the butterfly keyboard for three generations...
 
Hm anyone know if this type of crack would be covered? I honestly don’t ever remember doing anything to crack it! If it is then I can sell it before I get an series 5 in a few weeks!

if it’s still under warranty it should be covered as a “hairline crack”. But will probably not qualify for this program.
 
I just wished Apple had a more affordable way to replace a cracked screen due an accident. The last I checked it was almost as expensive as buying a new watch, especially for series 3. It doesn’t make sense for a company that claim is environmentally conscious.
3rd party solutions aren’t cheap either.
 
Jony Ive, though he created some really cool designs, has a history of consumer products littered with flaws that developed once his 'art' was used in the real world. Going back to the G4 cube, which developed cracks in its polycarbonate shell soon after its release.

Before that, the white iBooks developed cracks around the edges of the laptop.

Fast forward to the 'innovative' design of the butterfly keyboard (which turned out to be horribly flawed) and several problems in between.

I've said it before, but to me, a great designer makes stuff that not only looks cool, but also holds up in the world against wear, tear, weather, and human use. Jony Ive's designs too often failed the second part of that equation.

Apple goes overboard on form over function. All one needs to do is look at the great Windows hardware out there. No, not all it is great, some of it is.
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I just wished Apple had a more affordable way to replace a cracked screen due an accident. The last I checked it was almost as expensive as buying a new watch, especially for series 3. It doesn’t make sense for a company that claim is environmentally conscious.
3rd party solutions aren’t cheap either.

Apple stuff just feels expensively fragile. Affordability does not exist in the Apple vocabulary. (We can't really cite the affordable iPads with lousy wifi.)
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You think he alone designed the butterfly keyboard? As far as I know his name isn’t on any butterfly keyboard patents. The one below for example has 5 investors listed and they all look to be hardware engineers.

http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1="20180137996".PGNR.&OS=DN/20180137996&RS=DN/20180137996

Ive was paid the "big bucks", right? He was chief over all design. You mean he gets paid without responsibility, just taking the credit? But I see your point.
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Nice. I had to pay for my Apple Watch to be replaced and the replacement done the same. due to the screen crack it just broke off on the second watch.. Thanks for screwing me Apple.

I got tired of getting screwed by Apple and made a change in my buying. 3 failed keyboards on 3 laptops and 2 failed screens helped push that along. Oh, and battery swelling that destroyed a laptop and phone swelling on my last phone, destroyed it, and my wife's iPhone is flaking out and our iPads have the crappy wifi problem that's been going on forever...that covers most of it.
 
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Actually it’s Sapphire glass because it’s Apples own cheaper mass produced version, and it is not as good or scratch resistant as a Swiss watches sapphire crystal screen.

Just curious. Is the watch's glass a molten product or is it a "grown" product?
 
Apple goes overboard on form over function. All one needs to do is look at the great Windows hardware out there. No, not all it is great, some of it is.
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The supposed dichotomy between form and function is pushed by design wannabes with an agenda, most notably the Bauhaus. Originally it was a reaction against "frilly" stuff that added nothing to the actual product, like gargoyles on buildings or swirly decor on furniture.

But when people use it today it's for a different reason. Do you want to live somewhere surrounded by brutalist architecture? Do you want your laptop stripped of it's shell and with no regard for aesthetics? A FFF laptop is a chunck of metal that weights 10 pounds. That's what it would be like if it was honest to its materials, which is the ugly corollary to FFF. Is that the world you want?

Apple users say "heck no."
 
Currently have the 2 and the quarter crack is what I have going on.

Rep just stated in their release, all series 2 require a face to face examination before approval.

Reason being...get upgraded to a series 3.

Thank you Lord!!
 
The supposed dichotomy between form and function is pushed by design wannabes with an agenda, most notably the Bauhaus. Originally it was a reaction against "frilly" stuff that added nothing to the actual product, like gargoyles on buildings or swirly decor on furniture.

But when people use it today it's for a different reason. Do you want to live somewhere surrounded by brutalist architecture? Do you want your laptop stripped of it's shell and with no regard for aesthetics? A FFF laptop is a chunck of metal that weights 10 pounds. That's what it would be like if it was honest to its materials, which is the ugly corollary to FFF. Is that the world you want?

Apple users say "heck no."

He was commenting about form over function, not advocating for no form whatsoever.
The issue is the importance of form seems to have far outstripped function in Jony Ives old Apple. Hopefully thats changing a bit.

But you went ahead and set up a straw man to argue against anyways. Bravo!
 
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Out of curiosity, is there any Apple product which doesn't sooner or later require some type of replacement program?
It's becoming a joke.
I think computers(and tvs/phones/watches/etc.) are all at a point of disposability. Nothing is repairable these days. Not just Apple.
 
Ive was paid the "big bucks", right? He was chief over all design. You mean he gets paid without responsibility, just taking the credit? But I see your point.
No absolutely not. I’m just saying there’s a lot more than one person responsible for the design and engineering of products.
 
Thank you apple!
I’ve already known that.
This watch crack with no reason.
I thought that was because I was taking shower with hot water.
 

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Thank you apple!
I’ve already known that.
This watch crack with no reason.
I thought that was because I was taking shower with hot water.


Yea mine had the exact same crack and literally happened as i was just sitting at a desk doing absolutely nothing. It was like a month past warranty (no apple care)

Apple refused to fix it, saying it was my fault due to “impact” damage. The manager at the store claimed he had “never” seen it before.

I held my ground and kept going up the chain and finally got them to do a “one-time exception”.

Took over a month of fighting, which is absolutely ridiculous. Kind of been sour on apple ever since. Used to buy pretty much everything they released. Their latest price increases on top of this didn’t help, either.

But yea, basically, “rare” my ass.
 
Jony Ive, though he created some really cool designs, has a history of consumer products littered with flaws that developed once his 'art' was used in the real world. Going back to the G4 cube, which developed cracks in its polycarbonate shell soon after its release.

Before that, the white iBooks developed cracks around the edges of the laptop.

Fast forward to the 'innovative' design of the butterfly keyboard (which turned out to be horribly flawed) and several problems in between.

I've said it before, but to me, a great designer makes stuff that not only looks cool, but also holds up in the world against wear, tear, weather, and human use. Jony Ive's designs too often failed the second part of that equation.
No matter what you do, mistakes will always exist. A good designer just minimizes the total amount of mistakes. And it also depends on the materials and process in the manufacturing.
 
Jony Ive, though he created some really cool designs, has a history of consumer products littered with flaws that developed once his 'art' was used in the real world. Going back to the G4 cube, which developed cracks in its polycarbonate shell soon after its release.

Before that, the white iBooks developed cracks around the edges of the laptop.

Fast forward to the 'innovative' design of the butterfly keyboard (which turned out to be horribly flawed) and several problems in between.

I've said it before, but to me, a great designer makes stuff that not only looks cool, but also holds up in the world against wear, tear, weather, and human use. Jony Ive's designs too often failed the second part of that equation.

To be fair, a much larger number of his designs became industry standards both for durability and aesthetics. The stainless steel iPods and Macbook unibody comes to mind. Yes, there are going to be flaws when you're trying to push the envelope for what can be manufactured, but usually these designs end up maturing within a few generations.
 
This exact crack happened to me earlier this month. I just got back from a walk and it was 95F outside then I look at my watch and the parameter was shimmering from the crack. Apple claimed it was some type of negligence on my part, which really got my goat, and wanted $289 to fix something that was their fault. As soon as I saw this article I booked an appointment and let them hear my displeasure.
 
My Series 3 Watch did this at the beginning of this year, I took it into the Apple Store and they told me since the battery hadn’t swollen I would have to pay for a replacement... So I took the broken watch home and chucked it in a box then went online and bought a Series 4 on eBay.

Luckily I still have it and I just spoke to Support who are sending me a box out to replace it for free!
 
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