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If you go back and watch the keynotes for the last 2-3 years for iphone or iPad the message is the same. As far as his tweets, someone needed to do it. Even this was sensationalized. He didn't even mention what was in the link. He just said "be safe out there". There are tech heads pushing people to buy Andriod devices because they like them and can tweak them, but the general public who never had to worry about being able to download malware from the official store. They have no idea how bad it is. I find it odd that there were quite a few reports from different sources done on this subject and before this one by as much as a month, but non of the Apple User sites that almost seem to promote Samsung and Google, posted any of them. As a matter of fact a Google search for Macrumors Android Malware only pulls up the article about Schiller and from before January 2013. Mcafee even had a report from Feb 10 2013 that was silenced. In December the FBI warned about the platform but Google apparently is willing to spend whatever it has to to keep the truth of line. All the Andoid lovers came out to deny theres a problem. Apple has seen this play out before with Windows. This is just a lot faster. The techs who support the platform denying theres a problem, so little Johnny consumer is out there naked as a bird until the sky falls and theres no escape. I remember friends trying to warn me and bring me into safer waters but I was an PC tech guy in denial and keeping others from salvation by talking them out of macs. Either Google will lockdown Android or the house of cards will come crashing down in the next year or so.

You make many claims but provide no sources for them. IMO, Windows didn't disappear due to malware and neither will Android.
 
Wtf happened to the Macrumors community? Every news article thread are just filled with malicious and obnoxious "hate on everything Apple does" type of comments.

Apple offers free next day shipping. A nice little bonus for anyone considering buying an iPhone on Apples website. It's amazing how something like that, can turn into a negative discussion.

While it may look like a positive on the surface, if you take a closer look at what's going on it's not hard to see that Apple is DOOMED. Which is a real shame- Steve would never have allowed this to happen... :rolleyes:
 
You make many claims but provide no sources for them. IMO, Windows didn't disappear due to malware and neither will Android.

Just to add to your argument Macs are also at risk to malware now. Are we all going to stop using our macs because of this risk?

Stick to apps from credible sources in google play and you should be fine. Plus there are apps to detect malware for android if you really want to take that additional step.
 
Um didn't apple make the iphone 5 bigger? Bigger screen = less innovative is such a weak argument. I wonder what apple fanboys will say if apple comes out with an 5" screen. I'm betting it won't be "oh this isn't innovative. Going smaller would have been." :rolleyes:

Agreed that the S4 isn't a huge leap from the S3. It was similar to the change that apple made from the 4S to the 5. At least the S4 seems to have improved the quality of the display higher dpi.

Of that 96% most probably just want basic smart phone functions that work with ease, which the iphone does in spades. Nothing wrong with that and the iphone will continue to be successful since that is the largest market users. Others are probably brand loyal and or never given any other platform try. NOt that there is anything wrong with that if they are happy.

Apple has and may continue to lose market share to the more power type users and no company likes losing market share.

I still think most of us in the forum are apple fans and even iphone fans. Some of us just don't look at everything apple does with rose coloured glasses and don't understand why we can't give our opinions on what we think are shortcomings on certain apple products.
what interesting is in the last quarter they increased market share even though none of there competitors actually release sales numbers only a range of what was shipped. The carriers only quote Apples sales but their percentage dominates all of the others combined so I am always puzzled by the insistence that Apple is loosing share because of phantom sales. They consistently sell all they can make and you can't get much better than that.

Opinions are one thing. My responses are to those who constantly bash Apple for anything, like offering free shipping during a promotion. How is that constructive? Its not. Its purposely destructive.

The iPhone 5 is a completely new design, from the materials to the camera to the internals because its actually thinner and the speakers, lighting connector, more powerful processor that uses less power and doesnt run as hot. Not to mention the updates to iOS. I personally like Siri being able to open any app for me. How needs a launch program?

If you are a legitimate Apple User who makes suggestions you are not one who gets under my skin. My initial response today was to a poster who was extremely anti-Apple and I don't feel this is the appropriate place for this type of behavior. another later pointed out his claims about being an Apple supporter was false as his post were trolling since 2007, the release year of the iPhone. Odd. I have used this site for twelve years. Before the ipod even came out. So, Apple had very little market share in any market. I have never contemplated clearing it from my favorites until this year. It feels like being invaded and occupied. Like they came in hiding in a trojan horse and now they are attacking from within.

I really think these people are bring paid to troll.
 
Um didn't apple make the iphone 5 bigger? Bigger screen = less innovative is such a weak argument. I wonder what apple fanboys will say if apple comes out with an 5" screen. I'm betting it won't be "oh this isn't innovative. Going smaller would have been." :rolleyes:

Agreed that the S4 isn't a huge leap from the S3. It was similar to the change that apple made from the 4S to the 5. At least the S4 seems to have improved the quality of the display higher dpi.

Of that 96% most probably just want basic smart phone functions that work with ease, which the iphone does in spades. Nothing wrong with that and the iphone will continue to be successful since that is the largest market users. Others are probably brand loyal and or never given any other platform try. NOt that there is anything wrong with that if they are happy.

Apple has and may continue to lose market share to the more power type users and no company likes losing market share.

I still think most of us in the forum are apple fans and even iphone fans. Some of us just don't look at everything apple does with rose coloured glasses and don't understand why we can't give our opinions on what we think are shortcomings on certain apple products.

yep..... i do hope apple releases a 4.8 inch ios device... i admit i like Android better but i just went back to Macbook's so i would like a bigger screened Ios Device... for me a 4 inch screen is child's play
 
You took the words right out of my mouth. Of the 20 replies to the article so far and 95% of them are pathetic, juvenile, and obnoxious.

Sadder than the replies is the people who post them. What a way to think and live.

Either spoiled immature school children have overrun these forums and/or some very petty, sarcastic adults. Either way sad.

What with all these serious grumpy old Apple fans ;) grumble grumble ....

Lets see, With phones like the HTC one, Samsung S4 etc being announced, how exactly would you expect adults/apple fans react to see news on free next day shipping from Apple on the Homepage of MR.

I think sarcasm is a valid response. You need to relax and have roll with some witty comments. Some have been quite good. Lets see more.

FYI - This should not be front page news, if stuff like this does make it, it should deserve this treatment.
 
what interesting is in the last quarter they increased market share even though none of there competitors actually release sales numbers only a range of what was shipped. The carriers only quote Apples sales but their percentage dominates all of the others combined so I am always puzzled by the insistence that Apple is loosing share because of phantom sales. They consistently sell all they can make and you can't get much better than that.

Opinions are one thing. My responses are to those who constantly bash Apple for anything, like offering free shipping during a promotion. How is that constructive? Its not. Its purposely destructive.

The iPhone 5 is a completely new design, from the materials to the camera to the internals because its actually thinner and the speakers, lighting connector, more powerful processor that uses less power and doesnt run as hot. Not to mention the updates to iOS. I personally like Siri being able to open any app for me. How needs a launch program?

If you are a legitimate Apple User who makes suggestions you are not one who gets under my skin. My initial response today was to a poster who was extremely anti-Apple and I don't feel this is the appropriate place for this type of behavior. another later pointed out his claims about being an Apple supporter was false as his post were trolling since 2007, the release year of the iPhone. Odd. I have used this site for twelve years. Before the ipod even came out. So, Apple had very little market share in any market. I have never contemplated clearing it from my favorites until this year. It feels like being invaded and occupied. Like they came in hiding in a trojan horse and now they are attacking from within.

I really think these people are bring paid to troll.

You feel this way because some people here don't agree with you?
 
The stock shorters have been pounding these forums lately.

Is there no well you people don't poison?
 
what interesting is in the last quarter they increased market share even though none of there competitors actually release sales numbers only a range of what was shipped. The carriers only quote Apples sales but their percentage dominates all of the others combined so I am always puzzled by the insistence that Apple is loosing share because of phantom sales. They consistently sell all they can make and you can't get much better than that.

Opinions are one thing. My responses are to those who constantly bash Apple for anything, like offering free shipping during a promotion. How is that constructive? Its not. Its purposely destructive.

The iPhone 5 is a completely new design, from the materials to the camera to the internals because its actually thinner and the speakers, lighting connector, more powerful processor that uses less power and doesnt run as hot. Not to mention the updates to iOS. I personally like Siri being able to open any app for me. How needs a launch program?

If you are a legitimate Apple User who makes suggestions you are not one who gets under my skin. My initial response today was to a poster who was extremely anti-Apple and I don't feel this is the appropriate place for this type of behavior. another later pointed out his claims about being an Apple supporter was false as his post were trolling since 2007, the release year of the iPhone. Odd. I have used this site for twelve years. Before the ipod even came out. So, Apple had very little market share in any market. I have never contemplated clearing it from my favorites until this year. It feels like being invaded and occupied. Like they came in hiding in a trojan horse and now they are attacking from within.

I really think these people are bring paid to troll.

Well Apple products, while they were a computer company attracted a different user base. Hate to tell you but since dumping computer from their name and focusing on everything that needs itunes to synch, this is your user base now. They are not trolls etc..... this is users that other companies once had that now own itoys.

The old days are not coming back. Look around the type of people you see in the streets with an apple device these days.... some are scary ;) Fanatical fanboys are being replaced with apple users that have an attention span of months before they want a better apple device and whine etc... its only going to get worse.
 
It boggles the mind that someone thought this merited a FPP. Seriously. This will result in what... like five more iPhone sales in the next fiscal year?

It boggles my mind even more that people have to complain about what posts land on the front page. If you don't like it then don't read it.
 
Turn what around?

Loss of market share, stock value and (so some would say) most importantly, mindshare.

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This site is filled with anti-Apple haters and paid shills from Apple's competitors. The responses to this article pretty much gives it away. It's a shame the Mac Rumors staff allows their site to be taken over by these trolls.

Do you prefer forums where everybody has pretty much the same opinions?

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You can get paid for being a shill?

I've been hearing that for a long time.

But nobody can ever cite any evidence whatsoever.

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I wonder if with the iPhone they are clearing a backlog of stock

Gee, ya think?

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Why would i ever go in to the back room of a phone shop?!

I think he wants you to see an inventory of Samsung phones and thereby revel in how wonderful Apple is.
 
Um didn't apple make the iphone 5 bigger? Bigger screen = less innovative is such a weak argument.

Yeah, but the screen is still pretty tiny compared with most regular cellphones. So by his logic, that is innovative.
 
100% agree with you. It's amazing how quickly after the down vote button was removed, how incredibly sour the MR forums became in a short period. MR is now a forum fighting grounds over the silliest things: like free shipping.

Do you think anyone changed their posting habits because of being down voted? Just curious.
 
You make many claims but provide no sources for them. IMO, Windows didn't disappear due to malware and neither will Android.
No but there was much suffering and lots of problems including identity theft. And billions spent fixing computers that should not have been in that position in the first place. The difference is Windows was entrenched in businesses and for PCs there were no alternatives. Plus Microsoft had their partners stuck and were making cash hand over fist so they had no reason to let it go. Android is currently only making money for one company and that is Samsung. The iPhone still makes Google more money than Android each quarter from ads views so they are not as committed to it as you might think. If Samsung forks or shifts away from it and if Microsoft or Blackberry gets their OS off the ground and takes views from Android they will eventually drop it like that have done everything else that is not growing ad revenue. Just like they did with the RSS Reader recently after killing off all the other options that were available before.

http://www.kindsight.net/sites/default/files/Kindsight_Security_Labs-Q412_Malware_Report-final.pdf

http://www.sophos.com/en-us/security-news-trends/reports/security-threat-report/android-malware.aspx

http://www.mcafee.com/us/resources/reports/rp-quarterly-threat-q3-2012.pdf

http://www.informationweek.com/mobility/security/malware-writers-prefer-android/240150256

http://www.fbi.gov/news/news_blog/malware-targets-android-smartphones

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Do you think anyone changed their posting habits because of being down voted? Just curious.
It certainly looks that why. I never put the two together but there seem to be a connection.

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Yeah, but the screen is still pretty tiny compared with most regular cellphones. So by his logic, that is innovative.
The next innovation will be the return of the Bag Phone. It will just have a screen this time.
 
Not gonna sell unless it's a 5" phone

Rather than just increasing the screen size and calling it a day, I think it would be best if they keep the one they have now, and ADD a second screen size that's bigger. That would fit in nicely with the rest of the lineup. Every Apple product with a built-in screen comes in two sizes, except the iPhone...
 
Loss of market share, stock value and (so some would say) most importantly, mindshare.
Mind share on this site, by paid haters. Samsung most likely.
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Do you prefer forums where everybody has pretty much the same opinions?
Well this site actually use to be for like minded individual who shared a common love for Apple products. Not a place where you go to be attacked for that.

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I've been hearing that for a long time.

But nobody can ever cite any evidence whatsoever.
No need. Its pretty obvious when you have people who have well over the maximum searchable 485 post since the beginning of the year. I feel like I post too much and I have 280 since 2008. These same people claim to be former Apple enthusiast but they have never posted a positive Apple comment. Ever! When the opportunity arrises they blatantly try to push their true product to Apple users on the site. The evidence is in their actions. One told me to day he had moved one. Why would you linger and push other companies.
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I think he wants you to see an inventory of Samsung phones and thereby revel in how wonderful Apple is.
And see that shipped does not equal sold in the real world.

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Not gonna sell unless it's a 5" phone
Wasn't that what they said about the 5? For some reason the even the 4S with a 3.5 in screen still out sold what the S3 "shipped" and the 5 crushed it.
 
No but there was much suffering and lots of problems including identity theft. And billions spent fixing computers that should not have been in that position in the first place. The difference is Windows was entrenched in businesses and for PCs there were no alternatives. Plus Microsoft had their partners stuck and were making cash hand over fist so they had no reason to let it go. Android is currently only making money for one company and that is Samsung. The iPhone still makes Google more money than Android each quarter from ads views so they are not as committed to it as you might think. If Samsung forks or shifts away from it and if Microsoft or Blackberry gets their OS off the ground and takes views from Android they will eventually drop it like that have done everything else that is not growing ad revenue. Just like they did with the RSS Reader recently after killing off all the other options that were available before.

http://www.kindsight.net/sites/default/files/Kindsight_Security_Labs-Q412_Malware_Report-final.pdf

http://www.sophos.com/en-us/security-news-trends/reports/security-threat-report/android-malware.aspx

http://www.mcafee.com/us/resources/reports/rp-quarterly-threat-q3-2012.pdf

http://www.informationweek.com/mobility/security/malware-writers-prefer-android/240150256

http://www.fbi.gov/news/news_blog/malware-targets-android-smartphones

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It certainly looks that why. I never put the two together but there seem to be a connection.



Thanks for the links. I'll check them out. I actually hope Windows Phone and Blackberry do gain some market share, but it might not happen or be enough to even things out a bit. Personally I think Windows Phone has a refreshing look, different from iOS and Android. I'd like to see it on top shelf hardware, but if it doesn't sell better, I doubt we'll see it.

If I were to chose Android, I think I'd prefer the Google version since it has no manufacturer overlay and offers the best performance. But the Nexus 4 isn't quite as up to the task as the Galaxy and iPhone. The Nexus is a steal for the price, but it needs LTE real soon. It will be interesting to see what the next Google phone and Key Lime Pie will bring.

IMHO, the iPhone 5 is a nice phone, but personally I think it is still too small. iOS is stale. It's like Windows XP compared to Windows 7 or 8. It gets the job done, but it is getting long in tooth. Time for some changes besides another row of the same boring icons.

The other companies are closing the gap tech wise and Samsung is like the rock rolling down the mountainside gaining momentum all the way. Apples relaxing days at the top are waning. They need to kick it up a notch before they start eroding away at their loyal fan base.
 
Are you people nuts?! Sounds like they are maximizing their sales channel now that production is full blast. They most likely struck a deal with their shipping company to do an offer. If this was an act of despiration why would they maintain a limit of 2. I don't recall other companies needing to do that when sales are down. They would sell you 50 if you wanted them.

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Why would a desperate company limit you to 2. Your statement make no sense.

How is offering next day delivery maximising your sales channel when are the same time you limit it to 2???? This is marketing blah blah... another campaign.

Striking a deal with the shipping company? Its what shipping companies do, you can pay for next day delivery with anything you buy from the net. Apple pay for the shipping here, simples.

Ever been to a nightclub where there is a huge line outside and mostly empty inside...... The limit of 2 creates an aura of short supply, get in fast etc etc, when there are crates and crates sitting in the warehouse.

You can walk into any store anywhere and walk out with an Iphone 5.
 
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