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Apple Launching All-New CarPlay Experience in 2023 With These 5 Key Features

Why I don't know that I want this:

Hey Siri, set the AC to 70 degrees.
Siri: "Playing Highway to Hell by AC/DC on Apple Music."
Hey Siri, stop the music.
Siri: "Engaging emergency breaks."
Hey Siri, set the air conditioner to 70 degrees."
Siri: "Setting your home to 70 degrees."
Hey Siri, Set the car's air conditioner to 70 degrees."
Siri: "Turning on heated seats."
 
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BGPL said:
I don't think we'll have to wait for 2023 or greater cars. Most vehicles now support software/firmware updates that would allow the manufacturer to drop in an API for CarPlay. The question is, will they do it based on the demand? I certainly hope so, because this would be a game changer. I would gladly welcome Apple's UI into my vehicle over what's there now.
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I agree, but I don't think car manufacturers are going to spend the coin to do so. They are still going through the challenge of supply chain issues and this probably isn't on their pulse right now. Had the supply chain shortages not become a thing, they might have thought about expanding this to continue their fan base.
 
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MacAddict1978 said:
Why I don't know that I want this:

Hey Siri, set the AC to 70 degrees.
Siri: "Playing Highway to Hell by AC/DC on Apple Music."
Hey Siri, stop the music.
Siri: "Engaging emergency breaks."
Hey Siri, set the air conditioner to 70 degrees."
Siri: "Setting your home to 70 degrees."
Hey Siri, Set the car's air conditioner to 70 degrees."
Siri: "Turning on heated seats."
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oh yeah my in-car BMW/Nissan/Acura voice has been way better.

Are you posting from another reality and planet?
Because Siri (and Google) has (have) been 10000000000000% better in-car.
 
DocMultimedia said:
That was the best addition in ages. With the way Tesla stock is going Apple might be able to buy Tesla for $5M, get rid of EM, and turn that into the endlessly rumoured Apple Car. 🤔😀
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Tesla's stock will get back on track. Apple buying Tesla would be another example of how capitalism is broken. It would be nice to see deep CarPlay integration, but that's never going to happen. Big tech companies rarely play nice together, other EV car companies don't even support CarPlay or Android Auto. What I would love is for Tesla to open up its platform for 3rd software, so I could use Waze, Plex or whatever.
 
-BigMac- said:
Also, can any of current cars actually support it?
How many current cars have ventilation controlled via a touch screen?
I can think of one.. out of like 5000.
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All the VW ID cars have touchscreen ventilation controls, and the Ford mustang mach-e and Ford e-transit, I think polestar 2 and Renault megane.

it might be that some cars have some features, they did say it would be written for each model.

as you say time will tell 😀
 
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Friends/family who own Toyota's, Honda's, Acura's, Lexus' love CarPlay because the manufacturer/OEM infotainment just isn't good. Friends/family who own Mercedes and BMW's never use CarPlay because those system's integrate well enough with their phone that they don't need CarPlay and its GUI.

You'll still have people want CarPlay or Android Auto because they just want their phone mirrored but for the most part and what I've seen working in the industry is CarPlay and Android Auto excel in cars that have mediocre infotainment systems. For everyone else, they will try CarPlay or Android Auto but eventually just stick with using something like MBUX or iDrive.
 
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dukebound85 said:
does it upgrade CarPlay as is on the phone or is it dependent on the car stereo...ie if I have an aftermarket CarPlay stereo, will the display be upgraded as my phone upgrades? I am not sure what is required for the CarPlay updated
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Actually, that's a good question. I was presuming, in my mind, this was a software upgrade on Apples' side...but it could be a software upgrade for the car manufacturer and/or a hardware upgrade as well.
 
I7guy said:
Actually, that's a good question. I was presuming, in my mind, this was a software upgrade on Apples' side...but it could be a software upgrade for the car manufacturer and/or a hardware upgrade as well.
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Yeah it is both, the car manufacturer needs to use Apple's APIs to allow CarPlay to interact with the cars systems. Not sure Aftermarket radio's will get that kind of love.
 
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MacAddict1978 said:
It's just a GUI change. Most car radios are Android based these days (as is the whole infotainment software) ... and if anything, that's where Apple has some issues - having to write code for hardware that is made for Android because not everyone has an iPhone and that will probably not change. When someone isn't using Carplay, the native experience is probably Android under the hood. Unless Apple has managed to keep a secret and the non-iPhone connected experience will be some native IOS based install instead of Android in the infotainment system, which is what they should have been pushing all along. Except Android is open source and free and Apple wants $$$.
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I’m not sure it is accurate to say that “most” car radios are Android based. Some are, for instance Volvo/Geely companies are using Android Automotive. As far as I am aware, most a Linux based, but not specifically Android. There were even a few Microsoft based systems. However, I have been out of the automotive infotainment industry for a year now, so Android may be taking off for the next generation platforms currently under development.

I very much doubt that Apple will be supplying the OS for the infotainment module in cars - all the processing will be done on iPhone.
 
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tinsoldier said:
Same as android automotive which is customised for each make And model, it needs to work with various screen layouts.
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But Android Automotive isn't an all-in-one package, nor is it the OS itself - it's just a platform and the OEM is responsible for building the infotainment and auxiliary systems for each of their vehicles. If the iOS hardware is doing most or all of the heavy lifting, I'm assuming Apple would have to program for every vehicle each that this will run on. Not quite the same. Not a programmer or engineer but that's how I see it.
 
Roadster Lewis said:
I’m not sure it is accurate to say that “most” car radios are Android based. Some are, for instance Volvo/Geely companies are using Android Automotive. As far as I am aware, most a Linux based, but not specifically Android. There were even a few Microsoft based systems. However, I have been out of the automotive infotainment industry for a year now, so Android may be taking off for the next generation platforms currently under development.

I very much doubt that Apple will be supplying the OS for the infotainment module in cars - all the processing will be done on iPhone.
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You’re confusing AA with plain Android for infotainment.
Our Hondas and Acuras use Android - one of them (a 2020) is still on Android 5.1.
 
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diamond.g said:
Yeah it is both, the car manufacturer needs to use Apple's APIs to allow CarPlay to interact with the cars systems. Not sure Aftermarket radio's will get that kind of love.
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The core CarPlay is forward-compatible. This pie in the sky vision of CarPlay spread across 3-5 screens? Will require future enhanced CarPlay by mfrs and new iOS.

But having used it for years, everything has updated - albeit slowly - except things dependent on the car OEM, like full screen on RAM trucks (needs newer firmware that Stellantis won’t load on older systems pre-UConnect 5.1) and Navi directions on gauge cluster.
 
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lindros2 said:
You’re confusing AA with plain Android for infotainment.
Our Hondas and Acuras use Android - one of them (a 2020) is still on Android 5.1.
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It has been a few years since I worked on any Honda systems, so wasn’t aware of that.

Most systems I’ve worked with have been based on Linux though.
 
Interesting story re: Google and Porsche (similar to Apple's epic CarPlay discussed here):

"Porsche had previously been reluctant to use Google software because Google asked for too much data to be shared, according to Manager Magazin, which first reported the talks."

www.autoblog.com

Porsche, Google in talks over Google Apps access

Porsche is considering fully integrating Google software into its car cockpit, marking a shift in strategy for the newly listed carmaker.
www.autoblog.com www.autoblog.com
 
MacAddict1978 said:
Why I don't know that I want this:

Hey Siri, set the AC to 70 degrees.
Siri: "Playing Highway to Hell by AC/DC on Apple Music."
Hey Siri, stop the music.
Siri: "Engaging emergency breaks."
Hey Siri, set the air conditioner to 70 degrees."
Siri: "Setting your home to 70 degrees."
Hey Siri, Set the car's air conditioner to 70 degrees."
Siri: "Turning on heated seats."
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She put the last nail in her coffin lately. She kept saying we had no HomeKit accessories connected, even though they are in home, and I can control them there fine.
 
lindros2 said:
Interesting story re: Google and Porsche (similar to Apple's epic CarPlay discussed here):

"Porsche had previously been reluctant to use Google software because Google asked for too much data to be shared, according to Manager Magazin, which first reported the talks."

www.autoblog.com

Porsche, Google in talks over Google Apps access

Porsche is considering fully integrating Google software into its car cockpit, marking a shift in strategy for the newly listed carmaker.
www.autoblog.com www.autoblog.com
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Manufacturers have the option of not using GAS. BMW is using Android Automotive without all the Google services while controlling the interface (maintaining iDrive UI).

If an OEM is moving towards Android Automotive, they essentially have two options:

1) Complete Android Automotive, including Google's Automotive Services (essentially built-in Android Auto).
2) Android Automotive OS but OEM builds/design around OS.
 
iLog.Genius said:
Manufacturers have the option of not using GAS. BMW is using Android Automotive without all the Google services while controlling the interface (maintaining iDrive UI).

If an OEM is moving towards Android Automotive, they essentially have two options:

1) Complete Android Automotive, including Google's Automotive Services (essentially built-in Android Auto).
2) Android Automotive OS but OEM builds/design around OS.
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aaaaand BMW:

www.autoblog.com

2023 BMW X1 will debut iDrive 9.0 minus a rotary controller - Autoblog

BMW launches Android-based iDrive 9.0 in the new X1 starting March 2023, then the X2, 2 Series Active Tourer, and new Mini models due in late 2023.
www.autoblog.com www.autoblog.com

interesting they have remote diagnostic capabilities via Google. Just like my house. (Google Home)
 
lindros2 said:
aaaaand BMW:

www.autoblog.com

2023 BMW X1 will debut iDrive 9.0 minus a rotary controller - Autoblog

BMW launches Android-based iDrive 9.0 in the new X1 starting March 2023, then the X2, 2 Series Active Tourer, and new Mini models due in late 2023.
www.autoblog.com www.autoblog.com

interesting they have remote diagnostic capabilities via Google. Just like my house. (Google Home)
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It seems like Android Automotive is gaining a lot of traction with automotive OEM's. With BMW, Mercedes and Audi all switching over to Android Automotive for their next-gen infotainment systems, the direction is clear moving forward with automotive infotainment - these are going to be full-suite OS, essentially your phone with better integration than what we have seen so far.
 
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