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Wonder if Apple is using CarPlay to be a Trojan Horse and sneak into car manufacturers good graces so they can learn to build a car…or slowly take over all parts of a car over time.
 
It would be pretty amazing if it was backwards compatible.

But judging by the fact BMW and Merc have started introducing subscription tiers for things like heated seats and even paying to retain your cars horsepower by way of a paid subscription - i wouldnt hold my breath for a software update to unlock a plethora of features on an "old" car, unless there is a substantial financial cost to it.

We can always dream a little!

Yeah... that is some BS right there. I know BMW received a fair amount of backlash for this... Don't know if it changed their minds but yeah... BS. And that is probably why I will not own a BMW or Mercedes anytime soon.
 
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We can always dream a little!

Yeah... that is some BS right there. I know BMW received a fair amount of backlash for this... Don't know if it changed their minds but yeah... BS. And that is probably why I will not own a BMW or Mercedes anytime soon.
haha yeaaaaaa they really stuffed up by implementing those.
Given half the marketing Apple use for Carplay at the moment is in a BMW, it's giving me the doubts about whether they would implement a FREE software update to enable extended carplay :(
 
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haha yeaaaaaa they really stuffed up by implementing those.
Given half the marketing Apple use for Carplay at the moment is in a BMW, it's giving me the doubts about whether they would implement a FREE software update to enable extended carplay :(

If they are charging for heated seats... yeah, you are probably right and I highly doubt they will do something like this for free. UGH. Not that I was looking for a new car anyway, but this kinda puts me off of even looking at either brand.

Here is hoping they at least do the radio backwards compatible with other cars. I have a Mazda and Carplay has been pretty cool.
 
Weird. CarPlay from my XR has never crashed in the Mazda I bought this year.
I've had CarPlay in my BMW 5 Series, since 2017, and crashing is not uncommon. Usually, it's Springboard failing, or some Wi-Fi nonsense. The only way to fix it is to reset the phone (not the car system), and it returns to normal. Imagine that happening when you get into your car?
 
I've had CarPlay in my BMW 5 Series, since 2017, and crashing is not uncommon. Usually, it's Springboard failing, or some Wi-Fi nonsense. The only way to fix it is to reset the phone (not the car system), and it returns to normal. Imagine that happening when you get into your car?
I had this in my 2017 Mercedes A220d. Screen would distort. Had to reboot/reset phone for it to work.
 
You can bet your a$$ that the listed car makers won’t do a software upgrade and will make you buy a new car. One thing I really like about Tesla. No way Audi will do it. They’ve hobbled cars for years and have made be upgrade cars to get something new that probably could have been a software update.
Well then, guess I'll stick with the CarPlay that I've got :)
 
I like this.

Car manufacturers do not write good software (exception being Tesla and maybe BMW), plus there are extra charges, configuration, accounts, Internet payment, etc.

I want them just to provide the screen and that's it. Let an iPhone connect to it, take over and be the intelligence unit.

I imagine your phone being like a digital torch. You go into a room, and it "lights" it up, everything connects and comes alive. You leave the room, everything goes dark. The "room" can be your home or your car. You get into your car, it recognizes you (your phone), adjust the dashboard cluster layouts, colours, radio, seats, everything to your liking. You leave the car and it goes to default settings. Your data, preferences are not stored in it.

If you are sharing your car with your family member, everyone can have their customizations. If you are traveling and use a car that supports Apple CarPlay, it adjusts to you too.
 
Just got an aftermarket head unit installed in my car last March, with an iDatalink RR2. Amazing how many features are (not) supported from one car to another with that. Some cars can control HVAC from the new head unit, others can’t. Some have OEM amplifier turn on, some don’t. Some can control front, rear and side cameras. Some can’t. Even with different cars of the same manufacturer. So it’ll be a crapshoot of which cars support all the CarPlay features, and which don’t.

I’d be curious to see an Apple-branded aftermarket head unit. I can see it include wireless CarPlay, Apple Maps, maybe HD Radio/DAB+, SiriusXM. But all this will require a $14.99/month subscription.

This could be a bad thing, should Apple lock you out of your car should you cancel your subscription.
 
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If you currently own a car, that car is almost certainly not going to get this new version of CarPlay. Outside of Tesla, there’s almost no manufacture that retroactively adds features to older cars.

I have a 23 Hyundai ioniq with two perfect screens for this and I have 0 hope that I’ll be getting this. I’d love it, but no faith.
Yea, that makes sense. Too bad, but nothing I would upgrade over)
 
Yea, that makes sense. Too bad, but nothing I would upgrade over)
Got a 2013 Tesla Model S P85+; have had multiple physical upgrades (MCU1 to MCU2, TPMS and V1 to V3 door handles) and countless software updates. Don't really need or want Apple CarPlay.

However, since I live where snow and rain is common, we have a AWD 2018 Mazda CX-5 with plug-in CarPlay that relies on the iPhone for its updates. :)
 
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Got a 2013 Tesla Model S P85+; have had multiple physical upgrades (MCU1 to MCU2, TPMS and V1 to V3 door handles) and countless software updates. Don't really need or want Apple CarPlay.

However, since I live where snow and rain is common, we have a AWD 2018 Mazda CX-5 with plug-in CarPlay that relies on the iPhone for its updates. :)
Sounds about right. I like CarPlay, my wife hates it — so I have it turned off on her phone))
 
Wonder if Apple is using CarPlay to be a Trojan Horse and sneak into car manufacturers good graces so they can learn to build a car…or slowly take over all parts of a car over time.
Baby steps here. Remember apple allowed Motorola to put ipod / itunes software into razr phones back in 2005, before releasing the iphone in 2007.
 
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Not interested in driving a car, with a fully integrated multi-display touch interface. Analog interfaces can be used through memory tactile repetition and since we're a good 10+ years away from EVs making a serious dent into the % of the country running electric only these will be limited to EVs only moving foward which will severely limit their penetration into the markets.

Can't stand the idea of spending 20%+ more for an EV which barely gives me a passable steering wheel two pedals and everything else fully automated with voice assistance--Siri is bad enough on the phone and watch she's DOA in a car.

Not interested in swiping through views to get to a subsystem I can get to with a push of a button or a knob rotation.

The latest KIA EV concept car is an assault to the eyes both interior and exterior. People want current high quality autos with EV motors. That's it.

The auto industry could single handedly keep people driving used vehicles for the vast majority of folks until they wake up and realize the earlier adopters are still the only ones buying EVs. They can buy only so many of them.

Tesla's crashing hard more on the fact their blow out growth is done.
 
I wonder if this has to do with it being wired versus wireless, maybe? Both me and the wife have Mazda CX5's, wired Carplay and have not had an issue either... yet... knocking really hard on wood.
I have wired carplay on my Subaru Legacy. It crashes either the phone or the head unit every once in awhile. They both reboot if it happens. It was worse on my Prius.
 
To all the brilliant engineers out there - please find a way to retrofit the new CarPlay on older cars once it is released!
You can get third party adapters for certain models. I got a unit that added CarPlay to my 2015 BMW (mine was branded ‘Andream’). Was great when it worked. Unfortunately, the adapter had so many bugs it was too unreliable. Often the unit didn’t start up right away and prevented me from accessing my back up camera. It also crashed frequently. Ended up giving it back (which was a huge pain on Alibaba - lesson learned to never buy anything through them again).
 
To all the brilliant engineers out there - please find a way to retrofit the new CarPlay on older cars once it is released!

You can get third party adapters for certain models. I got a unit that added CarPlay to my 2015 BMW (mine was branded ‘Andream’). Was great when it worked. Unfortunately, the adapter had so many bugs it was too unreliable. Often the unit didn’t start up right away and prevented me from accessing my back up camera. It also crashed frequently. Ended up giving it back (which was a huge pain on Alibaba - lesson learned to never buy anything through them again).
Oops just reread and saw you were referring to the new CarPlay features - that would be cool but quite a task!
 
Maybe is it just me but it would not like my car display to look like this, iPhone style. Integrating the iPhone is nice but this mobile phone aesthetics would not be my preference. I hope it could be modified. Call me old school but in a car classic mechanical switches with characteristic shapes and click feel make a lot of sense when you don't want to look down while driving. I am aware that modern cars get equipped with just one big monitor screen that can be converted to display anything but I got used and like "our" (my girlfriend's company car to be honest) current BMW cockpit interior over this. Our iPhones are already integrated today.
 
Apple's CarPlay UI will probably be an improvement in many ways over most automakers glass gauge cluster UIs...

That said.. Not everything needs to be an fraking LCD/Touchscreen...

I want switches, knobs, and buttons! And dials! Remember those?

That.. would be a real improvement. Newer, isn't always better. Throwing tech at every UI/UX isn't always an improvement either.

Sigh.

The irony of many modern and especially "green" cars is that they have obnoxious amounts of crap that add nothing but weight and future e-waste to the vehicle.

Sacrificing range, and long-term serviceability, and environmentally sound product.. for.. toys.. doesn't matter if it's LCD gauge clusters or "self-driving" bull butter..

Yes, yes, think of the children! The CHILDREN!!!!

Teach the children to not play in the middle of the f'in street like my parents did, then teach them how to drive properly when they're old enough.

SMFH.

The children will be taking care of mutant two-headed, 12-toed, children of their own, after years of toxic e-waste seeps into the drinking water from every junkyard in town overflowing with all these obnoxious toys wrapped inside todays cars.

Maybe they'll teach their kids not to play in the middle of the street? At least their kids will have an easy time looking both ways before crossing the street.

Also, git off my lawn!
 
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