Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

MacRumors

macrumors bot
Original poster
Apr 12, 2001
58,715
22,377


Apple appears to be preparing for the upcoming launch of Apple Music Classical, a standalone classical music app that will be available alongside the Apple Music app.

apple-music.jpg

Mentions of Apple Classical have appeared in backend code used by Apple, suggesting that we could perhaps be seeing Apple Music Classical debut in the near future.


Apple Music Classical will be built around Primephonic, a classical music service that Apple purchased more than a year ago. When Apple acquired Primephonic, the company promised an improved classical music experience for Apple Music subscribers.

Apple said there would be a "dedicated classical music app" coming in 2022, with the app combining Primephonic's classical user interface with "more added features." With roughly 90 days to go until the end of the year, there isn't a lot of time left for Apple to make the promised 2022 timeline.

There are no new signs of Apple Music Classical that have been added in the iOS 16.1 beta as of yet, so Apple could be saving it for a future iOS 16 release that's planned before the end of the year.

Article Link: Apple Laying Groundwork for Apple Music Classical Feature Launching in 2022
 

MrRom92

macrumors 6502
Sep 30, 2021
428
856
As someone who regularly listens to classical, I don’t want this nor do I see the appeal of breaking this out into its own app/service in the slightest when whatever they’re hoping to implement in this app could just be brought to regular old Apple Music.

Also, how can Apple claim to cater to classical music fans when they don’t support FLAC? Classical connoisseurs maintain their own digital libraries and use FLAC as standard. Not that ALAC nonsense.
 

ThisBougieLife

macrumors 68030
Jan 21, 2016
2,992
9,739
Northern California
I still think it's weird to have a dedicated app for this. I wish they could just make much-needed improvements to the Music app. What I like about Qobuz is that it's great for classical in terms of metadata and the organizing of tracks in albums, but I can also use it for other genres.

Additionally, this makes having a cohesive library and set of playlists across genres a bit convoluted.

@MrRom92 Can agree. Part of the reason I mainly use Roon now is because it plays FLAC and I don't have to bother converting (it also allows for the best integration of my downloaded/ripped music with streaming that I've seen so far, superior to Apple Music and Audirvana).
 

ErikGrim

macrumors 603
Jun 20, 2003
6,172
4,794
Brisbane, Australia
As someone who regularly listens to classical, I don’t want this nor do I see the appeal of breaking this out into its own app/service in the slightest when whatever they’re hoping to implement in this app could just be brought to regular old Apple Music.

Also, how can Apple claim to cater to classical music fans when they don’t support FLAC? Classical connoisseurs maintain their own digital libraries and use FLAC as standard. Not that ALAC nonsense.
Why? It's a non issue to convert FLAC to ALAC, which has much broader support.
 

Angel Martin

macrumors newbie
Jun 16, 2022
27
47
As someone who regularly listens to classical, I don’t want this nor do I see the appeal of breaking this out into its own app/service in the slightest when whatever they’re hoping to implement in this app could just be brought to regular old Apple Music.

Also, how can Apple claim to cater to classical music fans when they don’t support FLAC? Classical connoisseurs maintain their own digital libraries and use FLAC as standard. Not that ALAC nonsense.
Anyone that is a huge fan will not need this service. But this will probably broaden some horizons and introduce many young people to such an incredible experience. I just don't see why you would disparage sharing Classical Music. So don't subscribe. Why deny others?
 

Cromulent

macrumors 604
Oct 2, 2006
6,514
525
The Land of Hope and Glory
Also, how can Apple claim to cater to classical music fans when they don’t support FLAC? Classical connoisseurs maintain their own digital libraries and use FLAC as standard. Not that ALAC nonsense.
Does it matter? FLAC and ALAC have the same quality if they have the same input. OK, it might take a little while to convert from FLAC to ALAC, but you only need to do it once and back up both FLAC and ALAC files, so you never need to worry again.
 

Supermallet

macrumors 68000
Sep 19, 2014
1,606
1,106
If this is streaming only then it had better be included in existing Apple Music/Apple One subscriptions.

As for ALAC, who cares? It’s just as lossless as FLAC and the two formats can be converted back and forth without any data loss. Only a complete pedant would be bothered by it.
 

Kimmo

macrumors regular
Jul 30, 2011
179
165
I still think it's weird to have a dedicated app for this. I wish they could just make much-needed improvements to the Music app. What I like about Qobuz is that it's great for classical in terms of metadata and the organizing of tracks in albums, but I can also use it for other genres.

Additionally, this makes having a cohesive library and set of playlists across genres a bit convoluted.

@MrRom92 Can agree. Part of the reason I mainly use Roon now is because it plays FLAC and I don't have to bother converting (it also allows for the best integration of my downloaded/ripped music with streaming that I've seen so far, superior to Apple Music and Audirvana).
I agree with you about Qobuz.

I've been really impressed with their catalogue of classical and jazz, as well as rock an alternative music. File quality is excellent.

Qobuz, through a pair of Neumann monitors, is really sweet. 😀
 
  • Like
Reactions: ThisBougieLife

jchap

macrumors 6502
Sep 25, 2009
361
627
As a frequent listener of classical music from all eras, one of the things I really despise about Apple Music in its current form is that the longer song titles used in many classical music pieces are poorly supported. If a new dedicated app fixes that, I'm all for it.

Long song names on macOS, iOS and iPadOS are miserable to look at, IMHO. They get cut off, scroll slowly, etc. There's no quick way to see important information about composers, albums, opus, key, performers, recording dates and so on without digging around. A lot of classical music listeners who "dig deep" and like to know more about what they're listening to would be interested in a better way to view this information, I feel.
 

jchap

macrumors 6502
Sep 25, 2009
361
627
And when are they gonna make their current crappy apps better? And what about that absolute nightmare on Windows? I wonder if someone at Apple realize how much stuff they’re doing while not doing enough.
Yes, the Apple Music app never really seemed to be the most useable thing in the world. It needs much more work in terms of the user interface and experience, despite the fact that it's the main portal to their paid services that are apparently raking in so much money for Apple.
 

bommai

macrumors 6502a
May 23, 2003
718
376
Melbourne, FL
As someone who regularly listens to classical, I don’t want this nor do I see the appeal of breaking this out into its own app/service in the slightest when whatever they’re hoping to implement in this app could just be brought to regular old Apple Music.

Also, how can Apple claim to cater to classical music fans when they don’t support FLAC? Classical connoisseurs maintain their own digital libraries and use FLAC as standard. Not that ALAC nonsense.
Speak for yourself. I use DSD and ALAC. fLAC has no advantage. ALAC is open source now.
 

bLackjackj

macrumors 6502
Nov 14, 2016
444
996
We know how this story ends in 12 months:

Macrumors 2023: Apple Integrates Classical Music App Into Apple Music App. Apple says "this will enhance the listening experience".

aka: Nobody tuned in to the add-on App.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MrRom92

MrRom92

macrumors 6502
Sep 30, 2021
428
856
Anyone that is a huge fan will not need this service. But this will probably broaden some horizons and introduce many young people to such an incredible experience. I just don't see why you would disparage sharing Classical Music. So don't subscribe. Why deny others?
Wouldn’t it also broaden horizons if they simply pushed classical recordings in the services that young people are already using?
 

MrRom92

macrumors 6502
Sep 30, 2021
428
856
Does it matter? FLAC and ALAC have the same quality if they have the same input. OK, it might take a little while to convert from FLAC to ALAC, but you only need to do it once and back up both FLAC and ALAC files, so you never need to worry again.
It does matter, why would I waste an extra 4TB of space and god knows how long for a conversion just to store a second copy of my library in an Apple friendly format? Why would I want to maintain double the amount of data? Apple should simply support what the rest of the music industry is actually using. Hint: it’s not ALAC
 

MrRom92

macrumors 6502
Sep 30, 2021
428
856
Speak for yourself. I use DSD and ALAC. fLAC has no advantage. ALAC is open source now.
FLAC has NO advantage? On what planet is this true? That’s demonstrably false. If you are using ALAC I hate to say it, but you are in a very small minority. If I may ask, what would be the benefit to using ALAC if Apple simply supported both?
 
  • Disagree
  • Haha
Reactions: diandi and kitKAC

trhoffmann

macrumors regular
Aug 10, 2019
220
363
This “update” one year after the announced Primephonic acquisition tells us nothing new. Given that Primephonic already had a decent working iOS/iPadOS app at the time of the acquisition, one year is a very long time to wait for a “new” Apple version.

I’m still wondering whether or not there will also be an Android app since many Primephonic subscribers were on Android, and whether or not there will also be a web player. Primephonic’s web player left a lot to be desired. It was buggy and unreliable.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.