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Apple's stock will take a temporary hit if the iPhone 8 launch is delayed. Apple stock will take a huge, long term hit if it is launched, and it sucks.

Yes, i have a feeling some analysts and firms are trying to get apple stick down before launch, and hope to see it flying through the roof after the iphone 8 is launched. But since apple stock is already high now, they try to get stock prizes down.
 
The iPhone 8 will be one of those products where you wait 3 months to see what happens with the ones brave enough to jump ship
 
Taiwan is ROC so to invest in that firm would be a direct subsidy to China. The (South) Korean firms are private entities and a lease back is an arms-length transaction and the scale is tiny as compared to the ultimate sales prices and profits. Smart move. Apple wisely applying its cash hoard.
 
Another indication that there will be a supply constraints of the next iPhone in every Apple Store like the Airpod. Somehow these factories cannot supply the needs of every Apple Store in the country. They probably ordering special products to stock in every Apple Store. While the regular products ends up on other retailers. :rolleyes:
 
add to that the image in the article was of a rigid board.
yeah, the article may have been better served using this picture from ifixit instead (which is a different board in the same phone)

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There's a REASON Apple keeps secret stretch projects secret. The iPhone 8 will launch when it launches, when it is ready. And that may be Sept 2017 or it may be March 2018
But you've missed the point (according to fanboys)
"Its the tenth anniversary iPhone" (so it has to ship this year because like errmm X means 10 right?)
"It has to be the first product announced at the new Steve Jobs Theater"
I really hope all these rumors are BS and the iPhone 8 comes out next year.
 
Yes, most people here got it wrong.
This is a controlled leak as to lower expectations to such elementary level that people will accept any kind of mehpgraded iPhone 6 shaped thing that can run half a day on a battery as the Anniversary Device.
Because we dummy customer herds, we are not supposed to think by ourselves like "Hey, why didn't they apply this to AirPod production if it is common business practice as that has been lame for half a year."
Or "Hey, this is lunatic as they are being led by that legendary provisioning CEO who runs his company from conferences and during travels with an iPad in his hand..and a monkey dancing iTunes SVP, so everything must be under control."
Instead we slavery buying sheep should stop thinking and just debug the truckloads of beta software like we are supposed to do to satisfy our appetite for innovation - taking up their work while relativating our own severe quality expectations.
Behave as Apple instructed in the 1984 Orwell video, and everything launched before the end of 2018 will be a positive surprise.


Lies about battery life
“Sheep”
“Slavery”


This is just pure trolling. It’s a shame it’s only not actively moderated but positively encouraged for clicks here. Back to anywhere else but this ******** after the beta period I guess.
 
But you've missed the point (according to fanboys)
"Its the tenth anniversary iPhone" (so it has to ship this year because like errmm X means 10 right?)
"It has to be the first product announced at the new Steve Jobs Theater"
I really hope all these rumors are BS and the iPhone 8 comes out next year.

It's not the customers that Apple listens to in terms of release pressure though, it's the shareholders & business analysts.
 
The iPhone 8 will launch when it launches, when it is ready. And that may be Sept 2017 or it may be March 2018 or it may be Sept 2018. Who knows? It may be called the iPhone 8 or the iPhone Pro or the iPhone Air. Who knows?
But Apple is not going to suffer when it doesn't launch a product that it hasn't even announced. Sure the usual internet grumbling will occur for a week, then we'll all realize the iPhone 7S is pretty damn kickass, that it's still actually 2x as good as any competitor phone, and life will return to normal.
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It's also what APPLE has done for years. When they first went all-in with extruded aluminum cases, they bought up most of the milling machines in the world and leased them to Foxconn.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2013/06/07/apple-expenditures/2400059/
As outlined in this article, the iPhone's success actually poses some complications. In essence, using its current iPhone product policy, Apple cannot introduce any new technology using components and assembly that cannot scale to a rate of 200 million units per year. Almost all its competitors can introduce new technology and components in phones that sell only millions per year. Only Samsung comes close with about 50 million of Galaxy S models.

Apple's alternative, to introduce new technology in a phone that will sell in lower quantities thanks to a noticeably higher price, poses the risk as to how this higher-end phone reflects on the iPhone 7s (and 7s Plus) using more conventional technologies. It still being sold at the same price but not being the best iPhone on offer could depress its sales by more than the sales the iPhone '8' generates.
 
Lies about battery life
“Sheep”
“Slavery”


This is just pure trolling. It’s a shame it’s only not actively moderated but positively encouraged for clicks here. Back to anywhere else but this ******** after the beta period I guess.
If you don't want to see thru the silly rumors and irony here (Cook & Cue on seminar with some Trump followers while production of their flagship device is at danger) then close your windows and get an early sleep.
But don't deny others to make fun of it (even if you have a different sense of humor) because neither of us dictate the norms here. Your remarks on clicks/moderation exhibit the arrogance that tends to be hackled at this site
 
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Becoming happier and happier that I went ahead and bought an iPhone 7. I'll wait until the storm clears before upgrading. o_O
 
As outlined in this article, the iPhone's success actually poses some complications. In essence, using its current iPhone product policy, Apple cannot introduce any new technology using components and assembly that cannot scale to a rate of 200 million units per year. Almost all its competitors can introduce new technology and components in phones that sell only millions per year. Only Samsung comes close with about 50 million of Galaxy S models.
Apple's alternative, to introduce new technology in a phone that will sell in lower quantities thanks to a noticeably higher price, poses the risk as to how this higher-end phone reflects on the iPhone 7s (and 7s Plus) using more conventional technologies. It still being sold at the same price but not being the best iPhone on offer could depress its sales by more than the sales the iPhone '8' generates.
Elementary marketing / business practices in capital industries seem to show the opposite.
For example consider VAG Gmbh (car industry)
It demonstrates to be very well able to simultaneously operate in both mass-markets (Volkswagen, Seat, Skoda) and the more exclusive lower volume markets (Audi, Lamborghini)
There is no way that their presence in one market would restrict their success in the other - on the contrary.
The same goes for Swatch and its exclusivity sub-brands plus so many other companies in the aerospace-, building- and other industries.
Yes, it will require a certain scale of operation and presence. But - for that matter - if there is one over-dominant company that could impose its own ordening of markets, it's is Apple.
So there is no reason nor any excuse not to come up with a top-notch, best of its kind device for Apple (no matter how much it artificially tries to lower expectations and downplays its supremacy with lunatic rumors as of lately...)
 
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Agree. "Nothing is F'd here, Dude."
Ready to deliver or not, [at the keynote] they'll definitely show us a gorgeous new 8 video, talk features, demo working devices. And we'll all fall over ourselves and set our alarms to happily wake to place our orders. Grins on our faces.

While I'm here - I so miss the excitement and camaraderie that were the launch day lines. Of all the criticism slung Angela's way, that's the one I do think she got wrong. I feel some of Apple's soul died with that business decision. It was such a good time. A differentiator. An event whose optics - from a brand perspective - were immeasurable. Untouchable. Every local news station would send a crew to their Apple Store to cover the lines. Launch days are now so sterile. Uneventful. Like so much of our social media experience: solitary. Isolated. Waking at 3am to place an online order couldn't be any further removed from the launch day line experience. And the "convenience" argument just isn't worth it. For me. At all.

I'm actually glad Angela killed it because getting in line for JUST a phone is ridiculous and embarrassing. IF people get in line for just the iPhone in worship for Apple, why are they not getting in line for iMac, iPad, Watch and so on? I've never seen any like that.

I can get the idea of getting in line for a comic convention. Totally understandable. I can get the idea of getting in line for a concert. Totally understandable. I can get the idea of getting line for a book signing at an author's speaking event. Totally understandable. And yes, some people get in lines for a movie ticket like the Star Wars prequel ( yeah they did. I was there ). Even nightclubs.

But for a phone? Why would you want to waste 3-4 hours, or more, in a line for a phone when you can just order it online? So you get in line, chat with the folks there, get 'love bombed' by clapping staff ( look up 'love bombing'. it's a classic cult technique to brainwash ), get the phone, and say bye and go home. What's up with that? Do people realize that when you get in a long line, you run the risk of NOT getting the phone due to supply shortages and getting screwed?

Apple was never about the long lines.

I remember many years ago when Star Wars: The Phantom Menace was coming out, Toys R Us was about to unveil the products at midnight ( as a means of sneak peek ) and there was a line at one such store in Cleveland. I remember this well because the product was already well established and when the doors opened, the staff didn't clap like idiots like the Apple employees were instructed to do. We all just walked in calmly and picked up some stuff.

I may not agree with Angela's thinking for the most part but she did the right thing in killing the long lines aspect so people won't get 'burned' by the supply shortages. I certainly do not think it's a 'badge of honor' to get in line at an Apple store.
 
I'm actually glad Angela killed it because getting in line for JUST a phone is ridiculous and embarrassing. IF people get in line for just the iPhone in worship for Apple, why are they not getting in line for iMac, iPad, Watch and so on? I've never seen any like that.

I can get the idea of getting in line for a comic convention. Totally understandable. I can get the idea of getting in line for a concert. Totally understandable. I can get the idea of getting line for a book signing at an author's speaking event. Totally understandable. And yes, some people get in lines for a movie ticket like the Star Wars prequel ( yeah they did. I was there ). Even nightclubs.

But for a phone? Why would you want to waste 3-4 hours, or more, in a line for a phone when you can just order it online? So you get in line, chat with the folks there, get 'love bombed' by clapping staff ( look up 'love bombing'. it's a classic cult technique to brainwash ), get the phone, and say bye and go home. What's up with that? Do people realize that when you get in a long line, you run the risk of NOT getting the phone due to supply shortages and getting screwed?

Apple was never about the long lines.

I remember many years ago when Star Wars: The Phantom Menace was coming out, Toys R Us was about to unveil the products at midnight ( as a means of sneak peek ) and there was a line at one such store in Cleveland. I remember this well because the product was already well established and when the doors opened, the staff didn't clap like idiots like the Apple employees were instructed to do. We all just walked in calmly and picked up some stuff.

I may not agree with Angela's thinking for the most part but she did the right thing in killing the long lines aspect so people won't get 'burned' by the supply shortages. I certainly do not think it's a 'badge of honor' to get in line at an Apple store.
I am afraid your specific ordening of the world is just one out of a zillion and uncovers some agedness.
Do not deny what younger generations appreciate (in terms honor, excitement, buzz, fun)
And I can guarantee you that Angela doesn't embody any thinkable standard when it comes to norms and values either
 
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If you don't want to see thru the silly rumors and irony here (Cook & Cue on seminar with some Trump followers while production of their flagship device is at danger) then close your windows and get an early sleep.
But don't deny others to make fun of it (even if you have a different sense of humor) because neither of us dictate the norms here. Your remarks on clicks/moderation exhibit the arrogance that tends to be hackled at this site
Who says it is in danger?
Oh yes, the rumors of course.
Then it must be true....
There are apple sheep, critical apple fans and there are people that generally dislike/hate apple and call all of its fans sheep.
And i really don' t understand what the latter are doing on a forum that is a fansite for apple users.
 
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And i really don' t understand what the latter are doing on a forum that is a fansite for apple users.

They’re trolling, of course. And when they get away with it within a few posts of an Editor posting, you can be sure they won’t stop.
 
I'm kind of frustrated with all these "rumors" making concerns among people...

Apple hasn't announced ANYTHING officially and I'm sure ANY companies will go through these kind of production problems as they ramp up their release procedures.

Whether true or not, these rumors are spreading things that public shouldn't hear and things that public shouldn't worry about.
 
As outlined in this article, the iPhone's success actually poses some complications. In essence, using its current iPhone product policy, Apple cannot introduce any new technology using components and assembly that cannot scale to a rate of 200 million units per year.

About a quarter of those are lesser models like the SE.

So more like 150 million, which is still quite a lot.

Almost all its competitors can introduce new technology and components in phones that sell only millions per year. Only Samsung comes close with about 50 million of Galaxy S models.

Again, that article was too simplistic. Samsung has more than one flagship. It ignores the Note.

Apple's alternative, to introduce new technology in a phone that will sell in lower quantities thanks to a noticeably higher price, poses the risk as to how this higher-end phone reflects on the iPhone 7s (and 7s Plus) using more conventional technologies.

Samsung includes more tech in its Note and does fine. It wouldn't be surprising if Apple introduced a Note like model with a pen. Perhaps that's the rumored high priced "Pro" model.
 
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