cmaier
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How is this good news for consumers? They aren’t going to pay any less, and now they have to put up with different terms and conditions, cancellation procedures, etc. for every subscription service.
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Apple Letting 'Reader' Apps Offer Links for Account Sign Ups Outside of the App Store to Close Japan Investigation
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How is this good news for consumers? They aren’t going to pay any less, and now they have to put up with different terms and conditions, cancellation procedures, etc. for every subscription service.
szw-mapple fan
macrumors 68040
No, not really. If you read the article this is specifically about reader apps that load in external content like video or music streaming, which wouldn’t include games where you are purchasing in-app goods and services.
Forgive me if I don‘t hold my breath for Netfix, etc. to lower fees paid direct, lulz!
cmaier
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Except nobody is going to force them to do that either. Netflix doesn’t. Over time, all these companies will stop offering the App Store subscriptions because the ability to prevent people from cancelling when they want to is simply too lucrative.
hot-gril
macrumors 68000
It's totally wrong for the govt to force Apple to do this. It's hard to feel bad for Apple here, but remember, they will always pick the easiest targets first.
LFC2020
macrumors P6
What’s next, turning the App Store into a malware fest like the google play store. 🤦♂️
Shirasaki
macrumors P6
Apple is throwing a bone out there to shut down investigation this time.
Hardly a win for developers but Netflix Spotify etc imo. If Epic wants to win, they still have a long way to go, a way that can go wrong at any moment.
Another thing is will that change apply to Japan only or roll out worldwide. That’d be interesting to know.
Hardly a win for developers but Netflix Spotify etc imo. If Epic wants to win, they still have a long way to go, a way that can go wrong at any moment.
Another thing is will that change apply to Japan only or roll out worldwide. That’d be interesting to know.
MattSuda
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cmaier
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It’s amazing to me that somehow so many of us have been brainwashed into thinking that when companies are allowed to do anything they want - when their businesses are not regulated by the law or by a gatekeeper - that somehow this is “good for consumers.”
People have been able to subscribe to Netflix directly for years and yet I have never paid less. All this does is allow for them to advertise it and link to it Which will ultimately allow THEM to profit more, the consumer gets nothing.
cmaier
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the price of Netflix has actually *increased*, by a lot, since they stopped supporting App Store subscriptions.
Michael Scrip
macrumors G3
Exactly.
Netflix stopped offering subscriptions in the App Store in 2018.
With this new change... will they put a link to their website instead of having this notice?
CordovaLark
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Michael Scrip
macrumors G3
Speaking of that... I originally thought the term "reader app" was referring to an app like the Kindle e-book store.
It's annoying how you have to leave the Kindle app, go to the Amazon website, and buy your books there. Then return to the app to download them.
But this change doesn't seem to fix that... since Amazon would be selling digital books... and selling digital goods still isn't allowed.
SFjohn
macrumors 68030
The article states this will rollout worldwide.
Naraxus
macrumors 68030
It most certainly is a win for consumers
Caviar_X
macrumors 6502a
You’re so upset Spotify is winning the war with apple it’s funny.
Michael Scrip
macrumors G3
This is what Apple considers "Reader Apps"
3.1.3(a) "Reader" Apps: Apps may allow a user to access previously purchased content or content subscriptions (specifically: magazines, newspapers, books, audio, music, and video). Reader apps may offer account creation for free tiers, and account management functionality for existing customers.
So obviously this is Netflix, Spotify, Hulu, HBOMax, etc.
This is NOT a substitution for IAP for buying the full version of an app or game upgrade, right?
3.1.3(a) "Reader" Apps: Apps may allow a user to access previously purchased content or content subscriptions (specifically: magazines, newspapers, books, audio, music, and video). Reader apps may offer account creation for free tiers, and account management functionality for existing customers.
So obviously this is Netflix, Spotify, Hulu, HBOMax, etc.
This is NOT a substitution for IAP for buying the full version of an app or game upgrade, right?
Apple up 69 cents afterhours on the news…
Amazing Iceman
macrumors 603
The win is for the developers. But I agree with giving consumers the option of a link to the website for account and subscription management.
Michael Scrip
macrumors G3
I just find it funny that Spotify has twice as many paid customers as Apple Music... and four times as many total users as Apple Music.... yet they still take Apple to court complaining that Apple is hurting them.
Spotify are babies.
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Get real. The Playstore scans every app before it is downloaded and installed.
cmaier
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Get real. There have been hundreds of cases of malware making it onto devices from the play store. I posted a link to a dozen different incidents in another thread.