That is indeed one damn fine post!
Agreed. But it certainly sounds a lot less like "Nokia won!" than what you'll see in the rest of the media. Of course, I suppose whether or not Nokia "won" depends on how much they actually received from Apple.
That is indeed one damn fine post!
This.Nokia is the most stupid company. They could have RULED the cellphone market forever. They had all the opportunity but they decided to put millions of phone models instead of improving their software.
Nokia enters into patent license agreement with Apple
If it wasnt for NOKIA there would be no apple i love my IPHONE 4 thanks to Nokia this phone isd possible and every cell phone maker in the world except probably Motorola who has been around a long time owes Nokia its ok to be an Apple fan boy but right is right nokia doesnt need Apples patents Apple needs Nokias patents to continue to inovate for the upcoming Iphone 5.
1) As has been said many times before, Apple's need to license Nokia's patents was never in doubt, only the amount to be paid.
2) Nokia's lawsuit did not demand any Apple patents. Far from it. They left it up to a Delaware jury to decide on royalties, back payments, and how much Apple had hurt Nokia. That's risky business for Apple, who could've ended up owing Nokia triple the original fees in damages. That's billions of dollars.
3) Apple's patent countersuits were not going well. ITC members had written opinions that Nokia had not infringed on Apple patents.
The upshot is:
Nokia can make smartphones without Apple's IP, but Apple cannot make phones at all without Nokia's patents.
The general consensus is that Nokia have won this.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13759612
"This is the first positive news from Nokia for a long time. They can both focus on their businesses now, and the dispute was settled to Nokia's advantage," said Mikael Rautanen at research group Inderes in Helsinki.
Now, I haven't got a clue who got the better deal, but don't you think you'd receive a different spin if you interviewed a research group from, say, Cupertino...?
More phones yes.. Mainly to Africa, and Asia.. losing marketshare in their traditional European base, not popular in America, and I've never even seen a Nokia in Japan, and not sure what your definition of a smartphone is but most statistics put the iPhone as the best selling smartphone in the world, if not the best-selling phone full stop.Wrong again. Nokia sells much more cell phones (and more smart phones) than Apple.
Apple got a negotiated deal and access to the GSM Patent Pooling that Nokia originally was trying to exempt Apple from and extort them out of a % of their profits.
From what I've read so far this morning, a fair few articles, the general consensus is that this agreement is more favourable to / a win for Nokia [rather than Apple]. So, a research group from Cupertino is a moot point, the consensus wouldn't change.
that Nokia originally was trying to exempt Apple from and extort them out of a % of their profits.
quasinormal said:*LTD* said:
This company is nearly defunct. They're doomed unles WP7 saves them.........
Not everybody wants or needs a smartphone. I personally refuse to pay most of $1K for a phone. I still use a Nokia 1100.
Nokia sold 453 million phones in 2010 with a 32.6% market share.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia
OK, so Apple therefore admitted that they were wrong. Now lets hear from LTDs of this forum how they are going to spin this. They have been claiming all along that Apple was the "innovator" here and Nokia was in the wrong.
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When Apple entered the market Nokia was over $40 per share. They're now around 6 bucks.
Their market share is dropping faster than Richard Simmons at a San Francisco hot tub party. Their smartphone development has all but ground to a halt. Their CTO just took off on an indefinite leave of absence. They're banking on MS . . . essentially out of the frying pan and into the fire. Go ahead, put your future in Ballmer's hands. Funny stuff.
They're buyout-bait. This was hardly a victory for them. It's like losing a marathon and being given Happy Meal coupons for your trouble.
Of course, they could always go on selling dumphones and that's it. Dumbphones by a dumbcompany. Until smartphones drop in price. Or live off patent money until the well runs dry. The possibilities are endless. No, really. They are.
Yeah, they invented but such a STUPID company never put into market. Thief Apple stupid Nokia.
Nokia? What is Nokia? A Japanese sumo wrestler?
That's the only money Nokia is going to make this year.
More likely Nokia cowered under pressure of Apple's patents and Apple was willing to pay from the start, just not the insane amount Nokia wanted. So what's your point here.