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M3gatron

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Yes I know surprisingly large amounts about SMS.

Yes I know surprisingly large amounts about RCS too.

I suggest you go and read about downgrade attacks. If you compare iMessage/WhatsApp to RCS there's a big difference between e2ee being required and supported respectively. The only security decision which is tenable is secure-by-default and in RCS context that's only currently provided by Google's non-standard RCS extensions which are not universally supported by all clients.
You basically didn't say anything to be honest.
Also I hope you do know "Google's RCS" is standard on Android so basically you do get secure-by-default with RCS on Android.
Apple if they really cared about security so much could easily work with Google and make the RCS "secure-by-default" thing platform agnostic.

Anyway this issue is a technical issue which is conflated conveniently with a political one. The political issue is hiding the technical issue and the technical issue is that RCS is a **** show.
Again you didn't say anything, you just hate on RCS for the sake of hating on RCS.

The best technical solution is to use WhatsApp / Signal / iMessage / Telegram and ignore the politics. Politicians have no business in security - they just screw things up for everyone.
Realistically I use both 3rd party messaging apps and RCS. There's no conflict between the 2 anyway. RCS is a replacement for SMS.
 

ProfessionalFan

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Green is for simple SMS. THere will be devices that will not support RCS to we will have three versions of messages. SMS, RCS and iMessage.
RCS and SMS will both be green, I am not guessing. That's the answer to the question you asked.

Here's a source for you: https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/16/23964851/rcs-bubbles-on-the-iphone-will-be-green

If you don't want to accept the answer, too bad. I don't understand why you'd ask a question and then try and dispute the answer.

Even though you were rude and didn't say thanks, you're welcome.
 
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Hank001

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But RCS will, I believe, still send on the SMS data channel. It may automatically try as data first but it will then automatically go as sms.

No, RCS only works over the Internet.

SMS is being increasingly challenged by Internet Protocol-based messaging services such as RCS, Apple's iMessage, Signal, Facebook Messenger/WhatsApp, Telegram, Viber, WeChat (in China) and Line (in Japan), available on smart phones with internet connections.[41] For example, between 2010 and 2022, SMS telecom revenue in India dropped 94 percent, while "revenue share per user from data usage...grew over 10 times."[42]

 

Frantisekj

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Mar 9, 2017
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Deep inside Europe :-)
RCS and SMS will both be green, I am not guessing. That's the answer to the question you asked.

Here's a source for you: https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/16/23964851/rcs-bubbles-on-the-iphone-will-be-green

If you don't want to accept the answer, too bad. I don't understand why you'd ask a question and then try and dispute the answer.

Even though you were rude and didn't say thanks, you're welcome.
Thanks for clarification and source. I considered it as your opinion not fact.

I believe it is bad solution so now I know I have to reach Apple to voice my opinion.
 

kenan3cn

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we chinese only like submissive american companies like Apple and Tesla. apparently Americans like them too. 🤝
 
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