iOS 19.7 probably. More like iOS 20 if Apple is truthful.
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Apple Likely Targeting iOS 19 for Delayed Siri Features
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Type to Siri was introduced in iOS 11. All they did was add a shortcut and now they’re claiming it’s “new”
And to think they could have spent many years and $10b on working on AI instead of Project Titan.
Lest be honest guys. Did we really expect this Apple to be the first or among them on any new tech? This apple doesn’t innovate at all, they don’t have it, they are reactionary and that’s why they are always going to be behind everyone else. We just needed a revolutionary tech to come along to make it really clear. They are the new Nokia.
I remember fanbois used to flame MS and others for “vaporware”.
This is way, way worse.
This is way, way worse.
Siri has been pathetic way before Apple jumped on the AI bandwagon. It is clear that software quality has taken a back seat at Apple under Tim Cook in favour of profits.
The fact that I have to stay with this stupid ass Siri for another year is maddening especially WHEN I BOUGHT MY 16 PRO MAX FOR THIS
**** YOU SIRI!
**** YOU SIRI!
Guys we got it . Seriously . 4 articles this week about this exact topic . Or was it 5 ?
Siri will forever be crap, won’t it?
Not that I used it much, but I was so disappointed that after iOS 18 launched, one of the few things I used to use Siri for seemed to break. If I have multiple alarms set on my phone, I would sometimes ask Siri what the alarm is set for. Siri would read out all of the times. Now, it now longer reads it out - just displays them on the screen, even if I’m away from the phone. Makes no sense why it can’t read out the times anymore. Sort it out, Apple!
Not that I used it much, but I was so disappointed that after iOS 18 launched, one of the few things I used to use Siri for seemed to break. If I have multiple alarms set on my phone, I would sometimes ask Siri what the alarm is set for. Siri would read out all of the times. Now, it now longer reads it out - just displays them on the screen, even if I’m away from the phone. Makes no sense why it can’t read out the times anymore. Sort it out, Apple!
Apple is an integrated hardware and software company. This is the core strength. There is better hardware from competitors, there is better software from competitors but no one brings it together across the product range like Apple does. This is what I mean, no one has the potential to bring it all together with a capable AI assistant across it all like Apple.
And I'm not talking about what is being proposing, I'm talking about what Apple is not delivering.
"In the lead-up to the latest delay, software chief Craig Federighi and other executives voiced strong concerns internally that the features didn’t work properly — or as advertised — in their personal testing, said the people, who asked not to be identified discussing internal matters. An Apple spokeswoman declined to comment.
Some within Apple’s AI division believe that work on the features could be scrapped altogether, and that Apple may have to rebuild the functions from scratch. The capabilities would then be delayed until a next-generation Siri that Apple hopes to begin rolling out in 2026.
The company first demonstrated the features during its Worldwide Developers Conference last June, part of an unveiling of the Apple Intelligence AI platform. At the same annual event this year, Apple isn’t planning to show off any big AI breakthroughs. Instead, it will focus on integrating Apple Intelligence into more of its apps.
The delays — especially of announced features — are embarrassing for Apple and add more evidence to the idea that the company is struggling in artificial intelligence. They also threaten to set back work on future improvements.
Apple had been planning to make Siri more ChatGPT-like and conversational next year. But now only the initial underpinnings for that upgrade are expected to be ready by 2026, when iOS 19 debuts. The actual interface that users experience likely won’t arrive until iOS 20 in 2027, the people said.
Bloomberg News reported earlier this week that Apple employees are questioning whether Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook or the company’s board needs to take action to change the leadership of the AI group. They believe that, short of major changes, Apple will continue to fall behind. Earlier this year, the company tapped veteran software leader Kim Vorrath to help the team.
The delays mark an especially public setback for Apple because the company has been advertising the not-yet-ready features in TV commercials for nearly six months. When the company introduced the iPhone 16 last fall, it did so by selling customers on the idea that the device was “built for the ground up for Apple Intelligence.” Now, the core features for that experience might not be available until months after the iPhone 17 debuts.
In anticipation of customer frustration, the company sent guidance to its AppleCare support representatives on Friday. “If customers ask about the timing of these Siri features, reiterate that we anticipate rolling them out in the coming year,” the memo said.
There are also concerns internally that fixing Siri will require having more powerful AI models run on Apple’s devices. That could strain the hardware, meaning Apple either has to reduce its set of features or make the models run more slowly on current or older devices. It would also require upping the hardware capabilities of future products to make the features run at full strength.
Siri did get some refinements as part of the rollout of iOS 18, including an integration with OpenAI’s ChatGPT chatbot and a text-based option called Type to Siri. It also includes Apple product knowledge and a new glowing interface, but those features don’t represent changes to the underlying technology.
The slow pace threatens to put Apple further behind Amazon.com Inc. in the voice assistant market. That company will begin rolling out its highly anticipated Alexa+ this month."
Some within Apple’s AI division believe that work on the features could be scrapped altogether, and that Apple may have to rebuild the functions from scratch. The capabilities would then be delayed until a next-generation Siri that Apple hopes to begin rolling out in 2026.
The company first demonstrated the features during its Worldwide Developers Conference last June, part of an unveiling of the Apple Intelligence AI platform. At the same annual event this year, Apple isn’t planning to show off any big AI breakthroughs. Instead, it will focus on integrating Apple Intelligence into more of its apps.
The delays — especially of announced features — are embarrassing for Apple and add more evidence to the idea that the company is struggling in artificial intelligence. They also threaten to set back work on future improvements.
Apple had been planning to make Siri more ChatGPT-like and conversational next year. But now only the initial underpinnings for that upgrade are expected to be ready by 2026, when iOS 19 debuts. The actual interface that users experience likely won’t arrive until iOS 20 in 2027, the people said.
Bloomberg News reported earlier this week that Apple employees are questioning whether Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook or the company’s board needs to take action to change the leadership of the AI group. They believe that, short of major changes, Apple will continue to fall behind. Earlier this year, the company tapped veteran software leader Kim Vorrath to help the team.
The delays mark an especially public setback for Apple because the company has been advertising the not-yet-ready features in TV commercials for nearly six months. When the company introduced the iPhone 16 last fall, it did so by selling customers on the idea that the device was “built for the ground up for Apple Intelligence.” Now, the core features for that experience might not be available until months after the iPhone 17 debuts.
In anticipation of customer frustration, the company sent guidance to its AppleCare support representatives on Friday. “If customers ask about the timing of these Siri features, reiterate that we anticipate rolling them out in the coming year,” the memo said.
There are also concerns internally that fixing Siri will require having more powerful AI models run on Apple’s devices. That could strain the hardware, meaning Apple either has to reduce its set of features or make the models run more slowly on current or older devices. It would also require upping the hardware capabilities of future products to make the features run at full strength.
Siri did get some refinements as part of the rollout of iOS 18, including an integration with OpenAI’s ChatGPT chatbot and a text-based option called Type to Siri. It also includes Apple product knowledge and a new glowing interface, but those features don’t represent changes to the underlying technology.
The slow pace threatens to put Apple further behind Amazon.com Inc. in the voice assistant market. That company will begin rolling out its highly anticipated Alexa+ this month."
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...rs-even-with-ai-taking-on-the-tasks-they-hate
Apple Delays Siri Upgrade Indefinitely as AI Concerns Escalate
Apple Inc.’s turmoil in its AI division reached new heights on Friday, with the company delaying promised updates to the Siri digital assistant for the foreseeable future.
www.bloomberg.com
Apple Delays Siri Upgrade Indefinitely as AI Concerns Escalate
Apple Inc.’s turmoil in its AI division reached new heights on Friday, with the company delaying promised updates to the Siri digital assistant for the foreseeable future.
www.bloomberg.com
At this point, Apple should just ditch the flawed code and rebuild Siri from scratch if they aren’t already doing so. Painful, sure, but long overdue.
How has google gemini been made and is so advanced and works great and Apple can’t fix it, why is every other voice assistant better. Also this means iOS 19 is going to be a boring update all the team is to busy trying to fix Siri they can’t work on anything else
Some iPhone users will be switching to Android if Apple doesn’t change course soon
It’s hard to imagine contextual AI features by a 3rd party - Apple needs to be the provider. Contextual AI is what we are all really waiting on, right? Do you really want to open up everything to another company?
That's right, folks, Apple is so bleeding-edge that they just couldn't get these features ready to delight customers so they had to pull them at the last minute. But hey, not to worry, because in their zeal to skate to where the puck will be, Apple is ensuring they aren't the first but are the best. Besides, Siri is OLD NEWS, because the era of spatial computing is here for early adopters to try tomorrow's technology, today! AVP FTW!!!
Executives need to be fired. What a botch. Apple Maps on iOS 6 was nowhere near this bad.
The class action talk is nonsense. Apple has protected themselves legally. First of all, they promised Apple intelligence features on the iPhone 16, not iOS 18. Second, I encourage everyone to read the software license agreement for iOS 18. Then it’ll become clear why there would be no legal case.
What revolution? Nothing is even solid yet. Just a month ago OpenAI had the wind knocked out of it by DeepSeek. No one’s even sure what any of this is supposed to look like in two years.
"In the lead-up to the latest delay, software chief Craig Federighi and other executives voiced strong concerns internally that the features didn’t work properly — or as advertised — in their personal testing, said the people, who asked not to be identified discussing internal matters. An Apple spokeswoman declined to comment.
Some within Apple’s AI division believe that work on the features could be scrapped altogether, and that Apple may have to rebuild the functions from scratch. The capabilities would then be delayed until a next-generation Siri that Apple hopes to begin rolling out in 2026.
The company first demonstrated the features during its Worldwide Developers Conference last June, part of an unveiling of the Apple Intelligence AI platform. At the same annual event this year, Apple isn’t planning to show off any big AI breakthroughs. Instead, it will focus on integrating Apple Intelligence into more of its apps.
The delays — especially of announced features — are embarrassing for Apple and add more evidence to the idea that the company is struggling in artificial intelligence. They also threaten to set back work on future improvements.
Apple had been planning to make Siri more ChatGPT-like and conversational next year. But now only the initial underpinnings for that upgrade are expected to be ready by 2026, when iOS 19 debuts. The actual interface that users experience likely won’t arrive until iOS 20 in 2027, the people said.
Bloomberg News reported earlier this week that Apple employees are questioning whether Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook or the company’s board needs to take action to change the leadership of the AI group. They believe that, short of major changes, Apple will continue to fall behind. Earlier this year, the company tapped veteran software leader Kim Vorrath to help the team.
The delays mark an especially public setback for Apple because the company has been advertising the not-yet-ready features in TV commercials for nearly six months. When the company introduced the iPhone 16 last fall, it did so by selling customers on the idea that the device was “built for the ground up for Apple Intelligence.” Now, the core features for that experience might not be available until months after the iPhone 17 debuts.
In anticipation of customer frustration, the company sent guidance to its AppleCare support representatives on Friday. “If customers ask about the timing of these Siri features, reiterate that we anticipate rolling them out in the coming year,” the memo said.
There are also concerns internally that fixing Siri will require having more powerful AI models run on Apple’s devices. That could strain the hardware, meaning Apple either has to reduce its set of features or make the models run more slowly on current or older devices. It would also require upping the hardware capabilities of future products to make the features run at full strength.
Siri did get some refinements as part of the rollout of iOS 18, including an integration with OpenAI’s ChatGPT chatbot and a text-based option called Type to Siri. It also includes Apple product knowledge and a new glowing interface, but those features don’t represent changes to the underlying technology.
The slow pace threatens to put Apple further behind Amazon.com Inc. in the voice assistant market. That company will begin rolling out its highly anticipated Alexa+ this month."
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...rs-even-with-ai-taking-on-the-tasks-they-hate
Apple Delays Siri Upgrade Indefinitely as AI Concerns Escalate
Apple Inc.’s turmoil in its AI division reached new heights on Friday, with the company delaying promised updates to the Siri digital assistant for the foreseeable future.
There’s like 4 different timelines in that article 😂 Gurman covering all his bases, as usual.