Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Apple Likely to Add Google Gemini and Other AI Models to iOS 18
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
It’s already off by default. You need to find the on switch ig you wang tonyse ut. 😊
Well put, but I don't think the implications could be huge. They are huge. As big as the implications of the printing press and the start of the Industrial Revolution. Like printing and industrial production, the are potential positive uses and potential negative uses of AI. I don't think have adequate systems in place to map out that balance, nor sufficient safeguards from preventing the negative side dominating. Do we really want to abdicate our control over AI to engineers and CEO's with huge professional and financial conflicts of interest?
Anyway, I think Apple needs to be clearer about security and privacy of its AI systems and third-party plug-ins as a start. They need to be on the right side of history about this.
Musk rant in 3, 2, 1...
If Apple integrates Google Gemini at the OS level, then Apple devices will be banned at my companies. That is an unacceptable security violation. Apple has no clue what's actually going on once they hand your data over to Google Gemini. They're selling you down the river."
I think it was quite unlike Apple, but a very good idea, to do 3rd party extensions for AI.
AI cam out of nowhere and ChatGPT is huge. Things are changing fast, and who knows if some other company will appear. Apple now have an easy way to add in anyone new that might appear and take over.
AI cam out of nowhere and ChatGPT is huge. Things are changing fast, and who knows if some other company will appear. Apple now have an easy way to add in anyone new that might appear and take over.
Apple is not and does not have access to OpenAI’s data, they are merely giving their users an option to send requests to ChatGPT if/when Siri determines that Apple’s own models cannot provide an appropriate response. Did you not watch the keynote?
Good, I don't trust ChatGPT one bit and think they are super shady with how they took data and stole peoples voices essentialy, would much rather use Gemini, google at least has some ethics when it comes to AI. Also like the idea of it being like a browser.. pick the AI of your choice to backend Siri and other apps.
This all kind of reminds me of when Apple integrated social media into iOS in a sort of piecemeal fashion. First Twitter was integrated in iOS 5, then iOS 6 added Facebook. Then years later they did away with that whole deep integration of social media, and instead added share extensions that social media apps could leverage instead.
I feel like we're seeing the same thing here. First Apple is integrating ChatGPT, next Apple will integrate Gemini, and a few years later Apple say remove it all and introduce AIExtensionKit or something that will let apps plug-in their LLMs.
I feel like we're seeing the same thing here. First Apple is integrating ChatGPT, next Apple will integrate Gemini, and a few years later Apple say remove it all and introduce AIExtensionKit or something that will let apps plug-in their LLMs.
Ummm… Apple has their own “AI”. They have proprietary models on device and on their own servers. But they currently seem to be limited to handle more personal requests related to the user.
As was mentioned in the keynote, anything that’s more generalized or even highly specific, they allow the user to utilize a 3rd party service… currently that’s just ChatGPT.
And what security concerns? Apple also addressed this directly in the keynote. Maybe you should watch the “AI” portion of the keynote?
ChatGPT is not a “backend” to Siri, it’s an alternative option to augment Apple’s own models when a user makes a direct query that Siri determines it cannot respond to. Also, OpenAI was willing to meet Apple’s demands of allowing the end user to remain anonymous. Perhaps your ”ethical” Google was not willing to do so, yet?
Not the same thing… this is more like having the option to choose your browser’s search engine. Apple is not integrating ChatGPT, it’s just allowing users the option to send a query to a 3rd party service.
The same thing that happens when you do a google search.
Good. "Intellectual Property" is a plague on humanity that has severely held back progress, and all this handwringing over what data people are training their models on is incredibly dumb. We can only hope the cat is too far out of the bag on this for governments to pass stupid laws that will ruin everything.
Worrying about what copyrighted data AI is trained on is as dumb as worrying a human might get an idea for their own project from watching a movie.
Thank you for saying this
Apple is as rotten to the core as all the other tech companies
They just have better marketing
Why does Apple need to provide their own advanced language model? They don’t need to do everything. They never made a search engine for example.
No. People tend to complain only when they don’t like something and mostly stay quiet when they are content. The AI lovers complained when it wasn’t good. The AI haters complain now that it’s implemented. There is probably some overlap as well between people who wanted Apple’s AI to get better and not have to use some third party at all. There will always be haters. The circle of hate continues unabated.
FFS… before coming across as ignorant, maybe you should watch the keynote and learn something?
They are not using other AI models for Apple Intelligence. In fact, they even mentioned that 3rd party models sit outside of what they call ”Apple Intelligence” as option for users who want or need something more broad-based or even very specific that is outside the realm of what Apple’s models were trained for.
People seem to be upset with possible Gemini integration, but no one has really noticed what they done to the photos app - it is full "1984" now. No privacy whatsoever, every photo is being analyzed each second with no off switch/opt out. Recent scandal with iOS 17.5 does not make things look better. Many stuff from yesterday's Apple event looked like one big dystopian fewer dream
I think it’s very clear that their in-house efforts will continue to expand, as they explicitly stated, and eventually you’ll only need external specialized “AI’s” if your really down the rabbit hole in specialized fields.
Umm… you’re the one who put your data on your device. That device attempts to make it easier for you to access that data, by recognizing, categorizing, and organizing that data on the device.
Yeah… so analyzing photos has been a feature for years to make it possible for people to search for specific photos. How else do you think that works? Apple has been transparent about the fact that only happens on device and not on their servers. In fact, YOU have the option to completely encrypt all your data before it’s even backed up to Apple’s servers.
Doesn't happen on my Mac tho, only if I use photos app (maybe, because I don't use it). On iOS and iPad OS Photos app is the only way for storing and organizing photos. If Apple gave me possibility to shoot photos straight into Files folders, I would go for it, makes better organizing experience (this feature is available on all Samsungs, probably Apple will copy it in few years).
I agree that it is a kind of a contract between me and a company that I have to trust, but honestly each year photos app becomes more bloated and complicated to use instead of being simple and "inviting". I have 1600+ shots in my gallery currently and had 12000+ on my old and now dead iPhone, but I almost never rewatch them, they just rest there like in some sort of recycler, partially due to auto-HDR feature (again, no opt-out) that strains eyes much when viewing shots
Why…… is the most valuable tech company in the world incapable of creating their own ai?
Why…. isn’t anyone asking this question?
Why…. isn’t anyone asking this question?
Because the question has already been answered I guess.
What they demoed was their own AI. ChatGTP is just an additional option one can use along with Siri fir instance (requires users permission).