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Apple Likely to Release iOS 17.1.1 This Week With iPhone Bug Fixes
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But the whole point of the beta test is to provide feedback and I think a lot of the general public does that. It just seems like more often then not, Apple ignores that feedback. Take this issue about the phones shutting off at night. That wasn't picked up in a beta test? Or the whole Wi-Fi thing. That also wasn't taken into account during the Beta stage? Why have it then if apple isn't going to use it properly.
Yet Apple admitted that they don’t really look at feedback from the public betas.
Then stop doing them. If the company is not serious about it's own Beta program, then it's a crappy program.
I have been reading about all these supposed problems on the iPhone 15 Pro, I have one and not an issue. I have had the S23 Ultra, Zfold 4, Zfold 5, Pixel 8 Pro, iPhone 14 Pro and the iPhone 14 Pro Max, the 15 Pro is the fastest and best phone I have used. I know there are problems when produced in mass, I have had some myself, but to say the iPhone 15 Pro is flawed and not worth buying is not right. Apple has always produced a quality product, a bit expensive, but you get what you pay for. I am now back with Apple and plan on staying there.
No, just searching for the best tech. I am a dedicated tech fanboy. When I take a picture, I want a device that is going to do the work for me, I do NOT want to think about it. Snap and go. When I use a cell phone I want the best and fastest, get it done and very fast. Our lives are revolving around mobile devices, I want the best, the most cohesive and the fastest. Apple fills the bill on all counts with this latest group of devices, phone, watch, iPad and Mac.
You don’t need to “school me”, I’ve been developing on OSX since the public beta in 2000, and worked with NeXT before that.
They “dropped” the official starting 10 with Big Sur.
Yosemite did in fact have dot dot dot level updates, they just didn’t number them the same exact way back then. They called them supplemental updates and security updates. The build numbers indicate what would have been a dot dot level release under today’s system.
One likely reason we have more and more frequent ones today than we used to is that with maybe around the iOS 14 era they changed the software update mechanisms to allow partial updates. (I may have that time wrong - it may have been a little earlier, like 11 or 12 - I’m not gonna dig too much to find the actual transition).
Before that time most updates meant pushing the entire OS (or at least a significant bulk of it).
They revamped things to allow them to push smaller pieces of the OS and also apps - so that updates could be smaller and more targeted.
Over simplified of course - but the small more frequent update concept is the point.
The beta program is not really for Apple.
While they usually don’t really look at “feedback” from the general public, they do look at data they get from logs and other sources.
Primarily if you want to get something actually looked at, you have to have an Apple developer account and file a bug report. I have filed several, had 3 accepted, two of those ended up being classified as duplicate reports and one got fixed.
The beta program is for people who write apps, and for people who support companies or schools, or for people who want to test out new features.
The beta programs are really intended for the users to test *their* stuff against the new builds.
By the time the betas go out, most of the stuff in the build is fairly finalized - and usually the only thing that changes is they will decide to pull a feature if it’s just not working at all.
Also - just because something needs a dot dot dot release does not mean it wasn’t caught in the alpha or beta.
Some times they are caught and just take time to prioritize and fix. Software is complex and running a development team requires having schedules and road maps and trade-offs of prioritization and scope.
The dot dot dot releases are doing *exactly* what we want them to do.
Anecdotally sure - some people experience problems.
Again - remember - we are a drastic minority here. For example - I read and comment on stuff like this. The other 10 people in my extended family group that use iOS *never* pay attention to any of this and if I even bring it up their eyes gloss over with boredom.
So I resign myself to just telling people “hey - a really important update came from Apple today, you should all go update your devices” and they know I work in IT so they consider me their IT support guy and they will lazily go update as they get around to it…
It sure doesn’t seem like it, does it?
I mean they say they’re working on a fix but I feel like when it is ready to go it would definitely be something they would want to announce - for the reason you mention, this is a defect which can cause hardware issues that require a technician to fix if it goes wrong. Seems like something I would mention in release notes. But who knows? They like to be secretive.
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Only to developers with units. Today should be general release for simulator users.
well, whatever they did before, they should go back to it because spending an hour updating your OS only to find out 2 days later that there is yet another x.x.x.n is SUPER annoying. Aside: Yosemite's x.x.x + supplementals, even though it's less clear, is way more aesthetically pleasing to the eye
It sure doesn’t seem like it, does it?
I mean they say they’re working on a fix but I feel like when it is ready to go it would definitely be something they would want to announce - for the reason you mention, this is a defect which can cause hardware issues that require a technician to fix if it goes wrong. Seems like something I would mention in release notes. But who knows? They like to be secretive.
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I was wrong - it’s in 17.1.1 out now!
You can always wait a few days to update if it’s that annoying. Generally though the x.x.x updates should be small.
But that’s up to you.
I don’t find it annoying - it kind of just runs in the background then needs a long-ish reboot process which I just do while I’m not using the computer.
To each their own.
Feel free to send Apple your feedback, or if that’s unappealing vote with your wallet and switch back to Android / Windows.
FWIW my windows & Linux boxes update all the time. I don’t really use Android so I can’t speak to that, but I have a car that uses Android Automotive OS and it updates a decent amount…
I updated to 17.1.1 on my phone, took about 5 minutes.
One of Intel Macs updated to 14.1.1 in total about 20 minutes, 15 of those being in the long reboot process. I have others to update but am using them currently so they will go later on.
My HomePods updated to 17.1.1 but I don’t know exactly how long they took because it’s kind of hidden from us.
AppleTVs don’t show an update.
One of Intel Macs updated to 14.1.1 in total about 20 minutes, 15 of those being in the long reboot process. I have others to update but am using them currently so they will go later on.
My HomePods updated to 17.1.1 but I don’t know exactly how long they took because it’s kind of hidden from us.
AppleTVs don’t show an update.
I just got my iphone 11 out to try it after using my SAamsung for a month, what a waste of time, keeps dropping mobile data constsntly, also Ios keyboard is so bad its a joke, you dont realise how bad Ios is until you use android for a month, android isnt the best, it needs work, butt Ios is just horrible bug ridden dog shi...