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Apple Limiting Alternative App Stores and Payments to EU Due to Malware, Fraud and Scam Risks
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Depends on the specfic terms that you are offering devs and if there is any clear evidence that you are weaponising those terms against third parties that might compete with you in other areas.
This isn't purely about Apples platform. Its about the fact that they are increasingly competing with other services.
That’s not ok if you can’t play cause you don’t live in Europe 😏That's fine if you like playing with mouthy pre-teens.
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At the same time, Apple itself is also on stage to sing their song: https://www.digit.fyi/apple-advertising-tracker-under-fire-from-privacy-activists/
There is not. This only applies to iPhones that are actually sold in the EU, independently from what the color of the passport of the user is. Each country has its own iPhone, an article number with a country code at the end which helps the device get the right firmware.
It would be easy to do since those marketplaces are different kinds of apps, they receive different designations. But I culd imagine Apple not doing that because they would lose another argument for their own store.
This isn't just about the App Store, it's also about browsers being able to use their own engines which is gonna allow browsers like Firefox and chrome to allow more plug-ins something which Android users take for granted, I personally welcome the fact that Firefox Devs will be able to use their own engine this is a big step forward and something that should've happened a long time ago.
IN a fight between a govt which has its own interests and major corporations why do you think you will capture the savings? The corporations have been fighting not to give consumers cheaper products but so they get the money apple is getting.
I wouldn’t call it insecure, but it is certainly less secure than iOS. It just is.
Isn't this bad parenting, and not a tech issue?
They have their own legal implementation coming up and they were looking at it already.
I just ask you to clean the grass if you're selling your wares in my yard. I don't care what you do elsewhere.
Where is the 15% marketshare? globally? Is it higher in some markets? Hard question to answer.
Apple only have 24% (ish) market share globally but in some developed markets it is much higher than that.
Apple is being looked at because they have significant market power and are often competing with third party services on their platform.
Apple doesn't care because you didn't care to look at the second link and you didn't care to look at the fact that this is not a mechanism but a policy.
This is like sending emails to malware developers to please not do bad things instead of developing the Gatekeeper.
Anyone who cares would take this seriously and protect its users, instead they just told devs not to do it.
edit: Here's something Apple did in the past, the same company which showers itself with privacy: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/apr/20/iphone-tracking-prompts-privacy-fears
And another: https://www.theguardian.com/technol...-hear-confidential-details-on-siri-recordings
But please keep telling us that Apple has not done any of these things which are borderline creepy on a disgusting level.
They don't need to open up anything since sideloading does nothing with the system. It's a sandboxed thing as we all love it.
Opening up would mean that new avenues would be offered to get access to contact data, health, etc. without the user having to approve anymore.
This is purely an iOS engineering issue, has zero to do with the App Store (except maybe that it was invited in in the first place) but simply what the OS allows people to do.
The right thing to do is strip Meta off its right for a developer account because they probably violated a number of clauses of the agreements in each the developer EULA and the App Store EULA.
I am for an open market but violating/lying to agreements when they say they will comply but actually they don't, that is untolerable in my eyes. Epic has lost that right on the App Store (maybe even for their developer account, can't say for sure) and I think Facebook is no better.
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What kind of journalism is that, MacRumors?? You’re not here to quote press releases; you have to call out Apple’s bulls**t.
They simply want their 30% cut, just like Meta wants to keep selling information of their users so they limit new privacy-oriented features to EU.
They simply want their 30% cut, just like Meta wants to keep selling information of their users so they limit new privacy-oriented features to EU.
Did you laugh at such previous attacks that came through Apps from Apple's App Store?
Even if we are at odds, I support that motion. But each business has to play by domestic rules where said business wants to do business.
If you sell me a washing machine for whatever money I won't care, if you provide washing powder of higher quality I don't care either if the markup is 30% or 300%. But if you do things that make other washing powder not work, then that's just anti-competitive, and also rude. That's just an invitation for someone to step in.
If your children play with mine in our living room, and your children start punching mine, I'll step in even when they say they can do it at home. A customer nor a dev can protect themselves alone against a 3bn leviathan like Apple, that's we we have these institutions, born out of democracy.
every instance of fraud, malware, Scams, etc with iPhones in the EU will be pointed out by Apple..
Assuming iphone users actually download alt app stores to begin with.
Likely a small amount anyway..
"see, we told you this would happen"
Assuming iphone users actually download alt app stores to begin with.
Likely a small amount anyway..
"see, we told you this would happen"
I think they didn't because that showed Apple's poor review process witht heir pants down.
I don't think there are two different philosophies. It's just that many blindly believe Apple when they are told everything they do is for their privacy and protection, and without it, the boogeyman will get them. The reality is that Apple is protecting Apple and, more importantly, their revenue. Sure, there are benefits to how Apple does things, which brings privacy and protection, but it's still revenue first.
You state a small group wants this, not what I see, away from the very one-sided views on this forum, which incidentally does represent a small group of Apple users. There are more in favour of having choices than not.
I don't care and am pretty happy with how things are, so I am not gaining anything from these changes, but many will.
Really bizarre how Americans, who are all about capitalism and hate even the slightest hint of socialism, clap and cheer when corporations remove choice and hinder free market competition. Americans in this thread actually celebrating that they don't get to make their own choices lmao
You were talking about wanting to take your cut out of the pie, then so of course would Spotify and both you and I would want that if we were Spotify.
We may not pass those saving on to customers but it would be nice if we actually had the chance.
This same principle is supposed to work for every other dev, big or small. Having the choice.
You really think so? 🤣🤣
👉 You may have missed how Apple will still (continue to) review each app, even when distributed through other distribution channels:
"What steps is Apple taking to review iOS apps distributed outside of the App Store and protect EU users?
The Digital Markets Act makes clear that companies can take steps to protect the integrity of their platforms, and within the confines of the DMA, we’re committed to protecting the privacy and security of our EU users. That means taking steps that reduce — but don’t eliminate — new risks. Those include:
- Notarization for iOS apps — a baseline review that applies to all apps, regardless of their distribution channel, focused on platform integrity and protecting users. The Notarization process involves a combination of automated checks and human review to help ensure apps are from credible parties, free of malicious content like malware, function as promised, and don’t expose users to egregious privacy and security risks or fraud."
So... you're saying Apple is going to relish in pointing out "every instance" of their own failure to detect such malware and scams? On the supposedly secure operating system they created themselves?
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You can have whatever stance to Apple you want, others may think different (lol). The point is that citizens of countries which protect their rights are represented here. Those citizens can be consumers, devs, big corporations, anything.
This is the only thing that happened here. Apple has not been forced to do anything but to accept some rules when selling stuff in the EU.
Nothing changes for you, so why are you complaining? If you like what Apple does for you today and live in the EU, you can ignore this and continue as normal. Nobody will force you to install an alternative app store or any app outside of Apple's store.