I have ZERO interest in an Apple TV service, just release an updated Apple TV next month and I'll be happy
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Apple Live TV Service Not Coming Until 2016
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It's a blight!
We'll be moving in a few months and when we do, it'll be the end of cable and satellite for us. We'll get an HD antenna and stream everything else.
I read about it in 2004, the 42" and 52" flat screens with OS X built in.
I think the big problem for Apple here is how to come up with something new that existing devices don't already do better, and sell it as the next magic thing. Between XBox, Roku, free over the air TV, and the existing AppleTV, I see where that would be difficult.
Oh, and of course "how to nickel and dime the user to death, and still manage to sell ads."
Oh, and of course "how to nickel and dime the user to death, and still manage to sell ads."
I can't wait for Apple to offer a TV service so the telecoms can finally F off and die with their terrible business model.
The only thing keeping people on the cable lifeline is live news, and live sports. Solve those and I'd be gone (particularly the former more than the latter).
Hulu and Netflix take care of most things, but leave a gaping hole in news and sports. If Apple solves that, that would be amazing and a death knell for the cable companies. I'd give anything to get to pick select channels a la carte through Apple. I'd get maybe 10 channels at a couple bucks a month each, and everyone would win.
The elephant in the room is that then you need to get the best internet plan from your scum provider, which is going to cost you and then you will probably still be throttled. If Apple then offers internet service to match...
The only thing keeping people on the cable lifeline is live news, and live sports. Solve those and I'd be gone (particularly the former more than the latter).
Hulu and Netflix take care of most things, but leave a gaping hole in news and sports. If Apple solves that, that would be amazing and a death knell for the cable companies. I'd give anything to get to pick select channels a la carte through Apple. I'd get maybe 10 channels at a couple bucks a month each, and everyone would win.
The elephant in the room is that then you need to get the best internet plan from your scum provider, which is going to cost you and then you will probably still be throttled. If Apple then offers internet service to match...
If Apple's TV service is only Live TV, I am pretty sure it will be DoA.
There has been so many different things said about it, but I don't ever remember seeing Live TV only. That would make me really sad.
I feel like in the times of On Demand, Netflix, iTunes, and others similar services, watching TV shows on a schedule other than your own is a thing of the past.
But I already cut the cord* in anticipation of this service, and to be honest I'm not missing it anyway... I'm not sure I'll even want the live service now once it arrives.
I have Hulu, Netlflix, Amazon Prime, HBO, and Showtime...and more crap to watch than I have time to spend watching so. I can still buy any shows on iTunes I'm still missing with the savings from cutting.
*[yes I know I still have an internet 'cord' - it's just an expression - I also didn't actually cut anything]
I have Hulu, Netlflix, Amazon Prime, HBO, and Showtime...and more crap to watch than I have time to spend watching so. I can still buy any shows on iTunes I'm still missing with the savings from cutting.
*[yes I know I still have an internet 'cord' - it's just an expression - I also didn't actually cut anything]
That doesn't make the least bit of sense when a lot of what is on TV, like news, sports, and special events, *is* live. The "TV happening when it is convienent thing" really only works for filmed entertainment and that is already being done by other services.
comcast is just going to make internet only tiers so expensive that it will make sense to choose one of their double play bundles. until apple can partner with or acquire a broadband partner I have a hard time believing it will be worth it. Sling at $20 is probably the best OTT option right now. Sling + HD antennae + HBO Now = $35. But 75 MB broadband from XFINITY is about $77 + tax. At over $100 you are in their double play territory.
There's still tens of millions of people who pay around $100 for Cable and providers are still profiting billions ever year. I dont see why people wont pay $40.
Netflix can't even destroy services like Redbox or Hulu, they're not gonna do anything to Cable anytime soon. People want their sports, news, and network shows.
Plus I have a feeling content providers and cable companies will start making bigger moves if they see their bottom line drop drastically because of this. They're not gonna just let billions get away.
Live TV will never be dead for the simple fact that many things are by their nature consumed live, like breaking news, sports, and special events (Oscars, debates, etc etc)
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People say they won't pay $40 for channels because they can pay 10 for Netflix. One of the big draws of Netflix is that they paid for the rights to Friends, or alternatively Hulu has Seinfeld.
Of course if the original content like Friends, Seinfeld, etc are never paid for and made in the first place, what good are those services?
Of course if the original content like Friends, Seinfeld, etc are never paid for and made in the first place, what good are those services?
We don't need $40 worth of channels for that.
Live events like the Super Bowl or the Oscars should have an option to pay to view or come as included content with this or that service. Sports fans can surely get a service that streams them games live without having to pay for extra channels to go with that. And TV news can die a slow and painful death for all I care -- it's wretched.
Exactly.
$60 - Internet only
$70 - Internet + 100 cable channels
Or something like that...
The argument has always been "I'm paying for channels I don't watch" so you'd think by getting fewer channels or NO channels that your bill would be lower.
Well... the cable company is gonna get their money somehow. They will raise the price of internet until it matches what you used to pay for internet + TV
So you're kinda stuck.
The only winning move is not to play...
I didn't say live TV would be dead. I said if Apple's service is Live TV only it would be dead.
Exactly.
$60 - Internet only
$70 - Internet + 100 cable channels
Or something like that...
The argument has always been "I'm paying for channels I don't watch" so you'd think by getting fewer channels or NO channels that your bill would be lower.
Well... the cable company is gonna get their money somehow. They will raise the price of internet until it matches what you used to pay for internet + TV
So you're kinda stuck.
The only winning move is not to play...
Internet + Netflix + Hulu + HBO + "whatever else" = you might as well be paying for cable
I am not in the market for an Apple TV service. But I think them taking time to "get it right" is best. The best streaming box UI right now is Fan TV. But I bet you've probably never seen it. Because it took them a long time just to finalize negotiation with ONE cable provider so far.
The TV/Movie industry is notoriously difficult to navigate.
People drastically underestimate the amount of money in play regarding these changes....
Yep.
And if you have cable TV channels and a DVR... you can get pretty much any show that is shown on TV. Just set your DVR to record it and watch it when you want.
The alternative is figuring out which online service has which TV show and when it becomes available... IF it becomes available.
Hulu might have last night's episode... or it might not.
But with cable TV and a DVR... you'll have it.
They can keep the new service. Just release the new box and app store!