Don't videos all go up to the cloud anyway? Not saying you're wrong but people are freaking out about Live Photos and 4K video and there are settings to optimize photo and video storage.
Yeah, it works to an extent. The thing that I've noticed that sucks the most about iCloud and 4K content is that you can't zoom in on it like you can right after you shoot it. A small point, but perhaps not to some people. I really like being able to take stills from the footage as each frame is around 8mp. Also the buffering can sometimes take a lot and people with smaller data plans can't always access their photos or videos without using it up. The stupid loading circle I have to wait for while flipping through images isn't ideal. I've got a 200GB account. I wish there was an option to keep photos back to a certain point stored locally. Like maybe 6 months?
I'm always surprised how many people are absolutely certain they know what most people think.
I should have clarified, but thought it was obvious given my comment about how many people among family, friends and coworkers have this issue. My original comment is the top comment on this news story, and the highest number of upvotes I've ever received for a single comment on MacRumors. That would lend credibility to the claim that I know what most people think in this particular situation, would it not?
12 GB???? Not even that. My 16 GB iPhone 6s Plus only had 9.9 GB on day one!
Wow, that sucks. Are you going to exchange it for a 64GB version?
So the reasoning is, "they have money so they should be giving it away - to us!". Right?
Nope, but Apple excels at designing experiences. Part of a good experience is making good default choices. The default storage size should be higher. The part price difference is minimal. I'm not entitled to more space, but they are not being competitive and I want my stock in AAPL to continue to do well. From what I've seen from a fairly large sample size of average users (even people with Ph. D's as I work at a university) they don't think that they are a "high end" user so 16GB will be fine. Then they end up using the device as intended and quickly run out of space. Install a few apps, maybe a game or two, take photos and shoot a few videos and you're done. You're out. You get a warning box that repeatedly tells you your phone is out of space. They wonder how this happened and I have to offload their files for them because many don't even use computers any more. Now I have these same people starting to tell me they want a phone with expandable storage because their "already expensive compared to Android base model iPhone" isn't good enough and they can't justify another $100 on top of it. Others really like their Apple device but are still mad at the company and are past their return window so they're stuck. These are just normal people, unlike 90% of the people who typically comment here. So IMO, it's not worth the bad will that Apple is getting from customers and potential future losses vs. spending slightly more to spring for the 32GB model.
So, someone is cheapskate or uninformed enough to buy something that they don't know how to deal with - and you help them. OK, kudos to you, shows your kindness. But… good luck. My first line would be "hey, why in hell did you buy this with these previsible problems? And now I have to be your lifeline? Go return it and get something else." Even more so if I had already told them to NOT BUY THAT.
Sounds harsh, but that is what I learnt after a couple of decades dealing with other's problems with their Windows computers - while I had been telling everyone on earshot to get a Mac, or even Linux lately. Just-not-another-Windows. Oh, finally you got the cheapest HP and want help. Fsck you.
No offense, but that's not how you deal with people in the real world. I can't tell my boss or coworkers to go "fsck" herself as you so eloquently put it, or my mom and grandma, or my best friends. These are just normal people. When I tell them to get more, they think "we'll you're a tech guy so you would say that." Sure, after these problems they now get the message. But still it's an issue I have to deal with a lot. Especially since I did a lot of evangelizing on Apple's behalf. And Apple shouldn't put a 4K camera into a 16GB device, which as someone pointed out above ships with 9.9GB available. Mere minutes of video! Lame.
Hey, I got this fancy Mercedes and guess what? Turns out I have to keep pouring gas in it! AND IT IS NOT FREE!
I find it hard to feel sympathy for someone who didn't factor usage/maintenance costs in a buy. A fool and his money, yadda yadda.
And anyway it's not like I have EVER recorded more than a few minutes in my phone. About 10 once in a concert, and I was annoying enough already to others - and to myself. 22 minutes? Really? Get a camera, and/or a life.
I take it you don't have kids. Lots of videos happening. As for your Mercedes analogy, that sounds like a straw man argument. If that argument were valid then the iPhone would have replaceable storage and my original complaint would be complaining about the price of Micro SD cards.
A more apt analogy (fitting within the guidelines of your comparison) would be if Mercedes made only one car. They all have the same features and functionality. But one comes with a 3 gallon tank, one with a 12 gallon tank, and one with a 24 gallon tank. But because of the way the car is engineered, the usable space of each tank is only 2 gallons, 11 gallons and 23 gallons. And every time you run out, you have to fill up directly from an even bigger car. Yeah, a car with a 2 gallon tank would be pretty annoying. But otherwise it looks like a beautiful Mercedes with all the bells and whistles. Wouldn't a 2 gallon tank kind of ruin the whole experience? Well you might say people shouldn't be dumb and just buy the more expensive models…and yet Mercedes (Apple) still sells them. The Mercedes base model (iPhone 6s 16GB $649) starts at $39,000. The next level up is 15.5% more expensive at $45,000 (iPhone 6s 64GB $749). Meanwhile people can buy a Chevy (Android) for half the price with twice the fuel tank. Sure, it's not as nice at all, but it gets them around town without constantly running out of gas. That's the core of the problem here. Apple needs a usable base model with storage that matches the high end features. The 6s is a hell of a phone and I love mine, but 16GB really hampers it and lessens the fantastic Apple experience. Does where I'm coming from make sense?
It's also not about people being fools because they aren't as educated as you and I about technology. Apple must design experiences that just work. That includes hardware design. The original iPhone came in 16GB capacity and couldn't even take video and had a 2mp camera. The 6s will be on sale through much of 2016, nine years later. It's completely ridiculous, and only the most ridiculous Apple fans would argue otherwise. Even I have been called a fanboy more times than I can count. But on the forums everything is black and white, either I'm an Apple hater or a raving fanatic. In the real world I'm practical. And as I told a guy above you, I think most people agree when you look at the upvotes on my original comment. Never before have I received that many. I couldn't believe it when I logged in this afternoon and saw so many notifications at the top!