Apple Loses A7/A8 Patent Lawsuit, Could Owe University of Wisconsin Up to $862 Million

[Maschil]

I'm confused, how would the university have made $862 million, if Apple hadn't used that patent? Isn't that what the amount is based on, as in the Samsung and Apple Lawsuit?

unfortunately the money is based on what apple made and yes you are right

 

[leroypants]

I had no idea a University would stoop to the level of patent troll. Way to set an example for students.

Yeah the University should just allow Apple to steal their intellectual property and make billions and billions of dollars from it.

 

[dannyyankou]

Take away nearly 5% of my money and I wouldn't be fine. I'd live, but be upset.

It's 0.43%

 

[D.T.]

Excellent, all the armchair attorneys will provide some outstanding comic relief

 

[leroypants]

US patent system has to be renovated. It doesn't protect companies doing business but trolls that are not doing anything.

Did you feel the same way when Apple sued Samsung?

 

[Bubba Satori]

Apple should just buy the University of Wisconsin
and rename it The University of Think Different.

 

[leroypants]

some of these patents are dumb and are too broad. why was this case done in wisconsin, is it possible some bribery took place?

Do you feel that same way about the Apple lawsuits against Samsung. Did you accuse Apple of bribing the Judge take their side?

 

[silentbob007]

Completely different as Apple actually makes something with their patents vs this university that is a patent troll who makes nothing.

You are not quite right with your definition of a patent trolls. Trolls tend to buy up patents for the sole reason of litigation. I would never accuse a group that applied for, and successfully received, a patent as a patent troll. They have at least created something new.

For universities, lots of research and general funding comes out of patents ... it is not surprising at all for Wisconsin to fight for money if they feel they have been infringed. Public dollars and tuition don't go as far as they used to and the "innovation" train driving STEM research is based not only on student success but also increase of University money and prestige.

 

[markgpearse]

I had no idea a University would stoop to the level of patent troll. Way to set an example for students.

Why are they patent trolls?

 

[uid15]

Ah, here we go, as another entity boards the bus of "FIRST!", heading for the Apple dairy to start the milking.

Yeah, I don't care who's wrong or right, these things are tedious and time wasting. Bleh, wake me up when it's blown over

 

[Melodeath]

Wow, imagine if Apple lost much of its cash and was forced to make compelling desktop computers again instead of trying to rip off customers who don't even know what a 5400 RPM drive is!

 

[SuperMatt]

Sounds like a standard used by many chipmakers, so this patent should be thrown out.

They already sued Intel for this same "patent" in 2008. Intel settled to avoid a trial.

 

[Marrakas]

What goes around comes around.

 

[isomorphic]

University of Wisconsin and Wisconsin jury. Nah, I don't smell a rat.
They should be going after every modern processor if this is the case.

Interesting you'd use that choice of words.

The anti-coagulant Warfarin is commonly used as rat poison.

Hint, the WARF in Warfarin is Wisconsin Alumni Research Foundation.

 

[isomorphic]

Apple will settle the claims on the other devices, or try to force RAND licensing.

 

[Costino1]

It's 0.43%

Thanks Mr Accountant. I'm watching my Cubs so cut me some slack.

 

[sweet_man]

Just took this picture of the WARF building with my iPhone 6s.

 

[oneMadRssn]

Aren't institutions of higher education meant to do research to propogate information in a free society? Universities aren't businesses (at least not in the manufacturing/production sense). Was the university going to be using their patents to develop products? If this proves to be successful, this might start a trend in university suing over patents/research papers...

Many universities, or their licensing arms, frequently file patent lawsuits to obtain licensing fees for their IP. Very often, this revenue is used to fund future research. That's how a lot of university research is funded, by licensing the product/outcome/results of that research.

As expensive as they are, undergraduate tuition doesn't cover ALL the costs of running a university. All those labs, professors, grad students, scholarships, stipends, and research grants, which allow for research that can take decades, aren't covered entirely by just undergrad tuition. Licensing their IP to industry players is a great way to support this research.

The idea that you must develop a product in order to benefit from the property rights of a patent is absurd and would cause havoc to our economy if implemented.

Next target will be Intel, AMD, Qualcomm, Mediatek, TI, Nvidia, Samsung. Nobody can make multicore processor without the patent, if it's allowed. It shouldn't be a patent.

They already sued Intel. My guess from the record is Intel settled right before trial.

Sounds like a standard used by many chipmakers, so this patent should be thrown out.

Apple already tried that argument, and lost, in an IPR. It's worth noting that today's trend is that the USPTO is invalidating more than 75% of patents in these new IPR proceedings. The fact this patent survived an IPR speaks a lot to it's strong validity.

 

[2IS]

Aren't institutions of higher education meant to do research to propogate information in a free society? Universities aren't businesses (at least not in the manufacturing/production sense). Was the university going to be using their patents to develop products? If this proves to be successful, this might start a trend in university suing over patents/research papers...

Universities aren't businesses? Really? Since when? And what do you think the point of a patent is if you can't sue someone for infringing on it?

 

[Unplugged]

Isn't the life length of a Patent 15 years?

 

[leroypants]

Why are they patent trolls?

They are patent trolls because the sued Apple.

 

[cdm283813]

I had no idea a University would stoop to the level of patent troll. Way to set an example for students.

Really! Apple tried to sue a company over a rectangle shape.

 

[joueboy]

I thought processor improvements is the same principle as Moore's Law by adding more transistors. Like an improvements from A6 to A7 but of course there are some other technologies behind it. Makes me curious how did Apple infringe such technology. If so why didn't just work with the University and that both parties will benefit.

 

[rmatthewware]

No, not at all. No one is asking you to read the patent in question, but at least do society a favor by reading the short article at hand...

Lighten up, cupcake, I'm pretty sure it was a joke.

 

[bettaboy123]

Well considering the A9/X are also based off of the Cyclone architecture, I won't be surprised if Apple also has to pay damages for those as well. Either that or they will try to settle and license it to continue to iterate on the Cyclone architecture for the A10.