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Wow! No worries though even if Apple has to pay it's the equivalent of a bag of peanuts. Apple will just use the money that it's getting from the Samsung lawsuit. It will be as if nothing ever happened. Phew!

-Mike
 
Well considering the A9/X are also based off of the Cyclone architecture, I won't be surprised if Apple also has to pay damages for those as well. Either that or they will try to settle and license it to continue to iterate on the Cyclone architecture for the A10.

Apple doesn't like that idea too much I think they will scrap it and work on building something new asap that they won't have to pay anybody for.

-Mike
 
I think you mean that you wish someone owed YOU $862 Million.

On another note, I bet the students aren't even going to see a tuition drop with all this money.
Exactly students won't even get a small bag of peanuts. Always the professor taking all the credit.

-Mike
 
Nice.. They also still owe Europe 8 billion next year for tax cheating in Ireland.

Unless you have new, as of yet, unpublished legal sources, it sounds like you are making up things (not unlikely if people have pre-formed opinions before the facts are all in, which is why innocent people often go to jail, case in point man released month or so ago, after 35 years in prison based on an opinion, that opinion still held by the DA even after the man was exonerated. For his 35 years in prison he was given a $20 gift certificate. He died couple of months later.) Please, don't serve on a jury, any jury, this is not a mind needed in deciding guilt or penalties.

Please point to Apple being convicted of "tax cheating". Some people don't like the length corporations and thousands of ordinary citizens go to, in order to avoid taxes, an accounting technique in place for decade, practiced by hundreds of thousands of investors world wide. Very wealthy Americans, for example, have trillions in the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Lichtenstein, Bahamas, Bermuda, Caymans, etc. Staying within the law is not, thankfully, against the law in the US (unless you happen to be on law enforcement radar due to skin color, sketchy looking, or whatever the criteria is that day).

Please explain where you got the 8 billion figure, but not from an online post of someone's estimate if certain rulings are made. Maybe, just maybe, it's better to not make judgements until the process is completed. And, if the IRS et al, want corporate money to stay in the US they might consider foreign taxation rates and cost of bringing money "home", otherwise moralists at large will bay at the moral moon, when it's not about morals, it's about the law, certainly not the same thing.
 
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My understanding is that WARF (Wisconsin Alumni Research Foundation) which is an independent company won the lawsuit and not the University of Wisconsin.
 
A Wisconsin jury today found Apple guilty of infringing on the patent owned by WARF, reports Reuters, and as a result, the Cupertino-based company could be forced to pay up to $862 million in damages.
I'll admit I'm not sure how this works, but can Apple just flip over the check they get from Samsung and endorse it "pay to the order of Wisconsin University"?
 
Well Apple is trying to save as much money as possible by shipping devices that shoot 4K video with 12GB of usable storage. They'll need to pay for this somehow. It's not like they have hundreds of billions or anything. I'm only half joking.



It was a half-joke, but seriously I have to deal with this issue so much at home and at work. Nobody listens to me and buys the cheapest iPhone possible. Then I have to help them because I'm the guy.



No but most people think if they're spending hundreds on an iPhone that it won't run out of space in 22 minutes.

I'm always surprised how many people are absolutely certain they know what most people think.
 
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Well no issue... In the end it will the consumers that will pay.... And it already started today with Magic Mouse 2 and trackpad... Seriously....
I wanted to buy a new force touch trackpad as a cheap alternative of new MacBook Pro, to experience new force touch technology deeper, but the price...looks so...high. :confused:
 
Don't videos all go up to the cloud anyway? Not saying you're wrong but people are freaking out about Live Photos and 4K video and there are settings to optimize photo and video storage.
But do those videos need to be stored locally and uploaded then? It is really impossible to stream video and photos to the cloud as long as you take it, at many places.
 
I think you mean that you wish someone owed YOU $862 Million.

On another note, I bet the students aren't even going to see a tuition drop with all this money.
Pretty sure he meant he owed. That would mean someone loaned him $800 million.
This guy just can't help himself. Every time. Ignores the hundreds of posts crushing Apple for EVRYTHING under the sun and his selective amnesia leads to this. Picking a random thread/post to suit his completely misguided narrative that people defend Apple at all costs. God he must live for this. And defending big cable, he loves that, too. Ugh.

He must be retired in Hobe Sound for being as out of touch as he is on a myriad of topics. One great consistency we can definitely count on.
Funny thing though, I've seen at least one of each of his predictions already in this thread. I have to disagree with you regarding his completely misguided narrative. There are members of this forum who will defend Apple's decisions regardless. Just like there are those who will criticize Apple without merit. Such is forum life. To become indignant about one side or the other is pointless.

Did Apple infringe? I personally don't know. Courts have decided yes. If the infringement is determined to be willful, I'll criticize. If not, I won't. It's pretty hard to do anything these days without infringing on someone's patent. I try to be fair in my criticism. Speaking of criticism... 5400 rpm spinning platter... pretty s#/@$( if you ask me.

As someone pointed out earlier in the thread, the amount of armchair lawyers on MR is staggering.
 
Did you feel the same way about a California jury ruling in favor of a California based company against a Korean company?

Rat didn't smell as bad, did it?

Actually, I thought that the Samsung/Apple trial was a waste.
I thought that Samsung go the short end of a stinky stick.

BTW - I'm a chip level hardware engineer in the business for more than 25 years if that matters.
 
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Next target will be Intel, AMD, Qualcomm, Mediatek, TI, Nvidia, Samsung. Nobody can make multicore processor without the patent, if it's allowed. It shouldn't be a patent.

We don't know the ins and outs of it, but it seems highly likely that Intel etc will have already been licensing this patent. If Intel hadn't been licensing this patent, they would have been a more lucrative target than Apple as their numbers are much bigger than Apple's (meaning there would have been a much bigger payout at stake).

I'm confused, how would the university have made $862 million, if Apple hadn't used that patent? Isn't that what the amount is based on, as in the Samsung and Apple Lawsuit?

Presumably that's the amount the University of Wisconsin would have been due in patent licensing fees.
 
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Well no issue... In the end it will the consumers that will pay.... And it already started today with Magic Mouse 2 and trackpad... Seriously....
That's quite an extreme statement. Do you have any proof. How is this being done? Statements like this only cause a lose of credibility if they can't be backed up.
 
I had no idea a University would stoop to the level of patent troll. Way to set an example for students.

So you assume any patent claim against Apple is "trolling"? You think the University of Wisconsin, one of the best public universities in America, is "patent trolling"? No.

They own a patent and Apple infringed on it. That's business. You don't get to cash in on someone else's property.
 
The point is not that people are forced to buy 16 GB devices. The point is that people are forced to pay $750 (for the 6s) to get a 'useable' amount of storage. If Apple offered a 32 GB Phone at $650, a lot of people who currently get the $750/64 GB model would get that. And every person doing so would probably reduce Apple's profits by $90 per phone sold.
Apple is in the business of making money. They have shareholders to answer to. Not everything they do will be for the benefit of mankind or those who don't want to spend money. There are many other makers of cell phones that you could choose.
 
Interesting you'd use that choice of words.

The anti-coagulant Warfarin is commonly used as rat poison.

Hint, the WARF in Warfarin is Wisconsin Alumni Research Foundation.
WARF -> wharf
Seriously, I am saying a joke. :p
 
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