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You stop making up facts. Here is the actual text from the judgement:

I stand (sit) corrected. Still irrelevant though because there's no chance that the court will allow such a potential inflammatory response on Apple's website as a "punishment"
 
You guys don't get it. THIS ISN'T ABOUT COPYING. Even Apple stated the community design in question isn't used in any of their products. This has absolutely nothing to do with whether Samsung copied the iPad, its about whether a community design was infringed. And it wasn't.

The thread title states 'design', and so yes I can comment about if Samsung did copy Apple's iPad DESIGN.

I said nothing about Samsung copying the iPad - because the iPad was not the first tablet.

Did I mention in my post anywhere about Samsung infringing on Apple's patent(s)? No, I clearly stated that they copied the iPads design.

Copying = creating a similar or near identical. So how did you come to the assumption this is not about copying?
 
I stand (sit) corrected. Still irrelevant though because there's no chance that the court will allow such a potential inflammatory response on Apple's website as a "punishment"

Apple has to link to the ruling.

That ruling.

The one that called the Samsung products thin, insubstantial and not as cool.

Let's hope they don't let Apple put their favourite bits in bold.
 
I think they should put up an advertisement with them side-by-side, using one of Samsung's own promotional pictures of their tablet which shows it most similar to the iPad, and then say "No, Samsung did not copy the iPad. Not at all." and leave it at that.

As I posted in another thread, the case wasn't about copying. It was whether or not there was an infringement of Apple's registered design.

One of the judges - who noted he owned an iPad himself - explained why Apple had lost the appeal in his ruling.

"Because this case (and parallel cases in other countries) has generated much publicity, it will avoid confusion to say what this case is about and not about," wrote Sir Robin Jacob.

"It is not about whether Samsung copied Apple's iPad. Infringement of a registered design does not involve any question of whether there was copying: the issue is simply whether the accused design is too close to the registered design according to the tests laid down in the law."

"So this case is all about, and only about, Apple's registered design and the Samsung products."


Sir Robin noted that Samsung's decision to place its logo on the front of its devices distinguished them from Apple's registered design which said there should be "no ornamentation".

He also highlighted the fact that the sides of the iPad's design - which featured a "sharp edge" - were significantly different from those of the Galaxy Tabs.

In addition, Sir Robin wrote that Samsung's designs were "altogether busier" with a more varied use of colour on the devices' rear and their inclusion of a thicker section to house a camera.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19989750
 
Apple has to link to the ruling.

That ruling.

The one that called the Samsung products thin, insubstantial and not as cool.

Let's hope they don't let Apple put their favourite bits in bold.

"You're living in a fantasyland" ;)
 
Copy is bad, competition is good. Clearly they copied the iPad - as they say an image paints a thousand words; Image & Image

Firstly, get your sayings correct. It's a picture paints a thousand words. Not image.

Overall, what do all the cases have in common? Apple wins in the US. Almost everywhere outside, they either lose out right, or the judgements get over turned on appeal.

Maybe it's Apple spending that $100bn on US judges?
 
This is ridiculous. It's like, in best Mommy voice, "Apple, now you go apologize to your brother". This must be very humiliating for Apple, who very rarely admits they do anything wrong, Apple Maps included.
 
I think they should put up an advertisement with them side-by-side, using one of Samsung's own promotional pictures of their tablet which shows it most similar to the iPad, and then say "No, Samsung did not copy the iPad. Not at all." and leave it at that.

I thought of a slogan 'It isn't as cool as the iPad.' but I prefer yours.
 
The thread title states 'design', and so yes I can comment about if Samsung did copy Apple's iPad DESIGN.

I said nothing about Samsung copying the iPad - because the iPad was not the first tablet.

Did I mention in my post anywhere about Samsung infringing on Apple's patent(s)? No, I clearly stated that they copied the iPads design.

Copying = creating a similar or near identical. So how did you come to the assumption this is not about copying?

I refer you to OllyW's post above. In the judge's own words, it was not about copying.
 
Why do we care about these companies. I know for sure they don't care about the consumers. People from either side take this ****** seriously like religion.

Exactly.

Seriously, some of the people here are beyond pathetic.

Did Samsung come to your house and rape your family?

Ohh I'm sorry I didn't realize tech companies are now sports teams that we root for.

Seriously you would think these angry people were the owners of Apple and Samsung.
 
I like the idea of Apple spinning it in a positive way and slamming the UK courts.

Take out an ad which shows the GTab in a state where it most closely resembles the iPad, side by side with an iPad.....so it looks like they are incredibly similar.

Then below it: "Samsung did not copy the iPad, according to the UK Court System" linking to the judgement.

It will satisfy the judgement, show how similar the devices are, and slam the UK court.
 
I don't know why people keep bringing copying into this, that was not what the case was about. The judge even made that quite clear. This was about whether Samsung infringed a community registered design. Such an infringement could occur even though copying has not taken place. Conversely, you could slavishly copy someone's work but still not infringe on a registered design.

Too many people here don't seem to understand what the case was about.

Ahh... so Apple registered "cool" as a design -- but since Samsung's design was as "cool" as the registered "cool" design -- they didn't infringe because they weren't as "cool" .... Got it, thanks.

btw: I don't care what the case was about, really. This is a business thing and I'm sure there are differences and nuances in laws in different places. To me, this is just one big pissing contest and I'm having fun pissing on all sides.

I *also* like the other rulings (forget where) -- where it said that the *****ty sales of the Samsung devices wasn't going to hurt/damage Apple in any way, therefore Samsung didn't "copy" (or whatever). Or, rather: Ya, you copied, but people still know that your POS isn't an iPad -- therefore, ya, sure, go ahead and sell your clone POS -- enjoy.

Scott
ps: This post may cause bewilderment in cyberspace (oh, and California).
 
So you think Apple is excited about having to do this? I would think it's humiliating for them to be forced to admit something they don't want to.

It's nice to see them humbled a bit. They think their you know what doesn't stink.
 
It's not at all unprecedented. Apple publicly accused Samsung of something later found not to be true by the court.

After libel judgements, for instance, newspapers in the UK often have to run an article saying their previous article was wrong. The follow up article has to be given equal prominence in the publication as the original had.

The US is just about the only country in the world where the idea of 'free speech' means being able to basically say anything about anyone - true or otherwise - with no repercussions.

This is as if someone were assaulted, took their assailant to court. Insufficient evidence the case is thrown out. So far seems bad but reasonable.

But then the court says the assault victim must public ally apologize to the assailant? If the victim really was assaulted, this is an extraordinarily hurtful ruling.

In apples case it shows anyone can rip off your design with little consequence. The required
burden of proof is a vague and very high bar.
 
I like the idea of Apple spinning it in a positive way and slamming the UK courts.

Take out an ad which shows the GTab in a state where it most closely resembles the iPad, side by side with an iPad.....so it looks like they are incredibly similar.

Then below it: "Samsung did not copy the iPad, according to the UK Court System" linking to the judgement.

It will satisfy the judgement, show how similar the devices are, and slam the UK court.

Right - and you think this "ad" will be approved as adhering to the judgement?

Seriously? Or are you just having fun. Because sadly - I think some people genuinely think Apple can/will do whatever they want with the ad.
 
I still don't understand why a screen with a bezel around it and rounded corners can be patented. Isn't that to... basic...

Most monitors look physically alike, along with motherboards, ram, mice, keyboards, disk drives, you name it. Most competing computer components look alike and they aren't all based on a standard.

Many TVs also look very similar yet I don't see TV manufacturers squabbling along with cable boxes, speakers, headphones.

Its a screen with a bezel around it for gods sake!

It seems that because the tablet market is new that people think apple is entitled to more protection than other industries/components get.
 
Firstly, get your sayings correct. It's a picture paints a thousand words. Not image.

Overall, what do all the cases have in common? Apple wins in the US. Almost everywhere outside, they either lose out right, or the judgements get over turned on appeal.

Maybe it's Apple spending that $100bn on US judges?

I put two images, not two pictures. Technically they are a collection of pictures but are rendered on a computer and so is called an image. So my saying is correct for what I used it for.

Maybe they win in the US because Apple is a US company and so bring billions in to the US economy.
 
This is horrible. Apple really should appeal this all the way up the Supreme Court, and if they are as wrong and unjust as these little lower courts, then Apple should take it to the World Court and the UN.

Samsung did nothing original, they just started up their copying machine as soon as Apple ever innovates with new products. There is NO JUSTICE in England. Everybody there should be hanging there head's in SHAME!
 
Just curious why? Apple is being forced to admit that Samsung didn't copy them. Something that they objected to. Whether you agree or not is irrelevant. Samsung, I am sure, is pleased with the verdict. Why wouldn't they?

Agree. Even if Apple paste a tiny link and buys tiny ads Samsung can buy full page ads or even run TV spots on this. Mind you they might not because the ruling actually had a judge saying that Samsung was just not a cool. But then again what does a judge know right?
 
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