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Or Applecould just say no we wont. They arnt obligated to do business in the uk. If people like their products in the uk there are other countries people can buy them from.

If Apple doesn't comply with UK courts, it could be viewed as contempt for the entire EU court system. It would be suicide for Apple.
 
Yes. Since "average" visitor won't know what the hell this text is all about, he/she might click on the link and read the entire humiliating judgment. Very beneficial to Samsung for sure.

The average person you speak of isn't going to read that far into the document. The average person who sees the link in the newspaper that it also has to appear on most likely won't go home/mobile and look up the link.

"Humiliating" is your adjective. It, to me, is hyperbolic. That is my .02. Obviously, people will see what they want to in this ruling. However I would be very surprised to think Apple doesn't care or isn't upset that they have to spend money and/or put anything on their website about it at all.
 
Three cheers for Samsung! We want more cloning, less innovation, and less choice!

Let Samsung play it safe and continue to stick as closely to Apple as they can (rather than doing their own thing like Microsoft). The consumer wins! Because who wants choice and variety? What we want in the market is a bunch of very similar products!

;)
 
No, the more infringement ruling had nothing to do with not being cool enough

Except the side comment of the judge isn't what will remotely go into the statement on the website. And no - the wording of the order didn't say anything about "cool." Please stop making up facts.

From section 190 of the judgement (emphasis added):
The informed user’s overall impression of each of the Samsung Galaxy Tablets is the following. From the front they belong to the family which includes the Apple design; but the Samsung products are very thin, almost insubstantial members of that family with unusual details on the back. They do not have the same understated and extreme simplicity which is possessed by the Apple design. They are not as cool. The overall impression produced is different.

It appears it is *you*, samcraig, who needs to get their facts straight.
 
Why do we care about these companies. I know for sure they don't care about the consumers. People from either side take this ****** seriously like religion.

Because they're gerbils in a maze looking for a pellet. They're brainwashed morons who's pathetic lives are so lame they hang their hat on corporations like Apple.One day they'll realise what a wasye their lives are and all the gadgets in the world cant change that.
 
From section 190 of the judgement (emphasis added):


It appears it is *you*, samcraig, who needs to get their facts straight.

Well it's clear you haven't read the entire thread because I already conceded this point. I also stated that it's irrelevant because there's no way that would be included in the actual ad. Go read KDarling's post. Because that's what matters.
 
Copy Cat.....

Apple should just make a mock ad, "stating" that Samsung didn't copy their design, but "visually" showing what we all already know.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

PS - And in the background kind of out of focus, they could show a cat sitting at a drawing table, sketching out a rendition of the iPad.

:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
 
I kinda think having an official ruling that your device is not infringing outweighs a comment about it "not being as cool".

The comment in question was *part* of that official ruling. (Section 190, as a matter of fact.)
 
typical apple fanboys excuse. no matter how the result is, fanboys still try to advocate apple. they don't want to admit the loss. but wake up, people. apple actually lost. there is only one they won. it was in american soil. other cases were all lost. even though truth tells you, if you deny, you are moron.
 
Apple should just make a mock ad, "stating" that Samsung didn't copy their design, but "visually" showing what we all already know.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

PS - And in the background kind of out of focus, they could show a cat sitting at a drawing table, sketching out a rendition of the iPad.

:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

How is it that you lack the ability to read this thread and what Apple can and can't do? Please explain.
 
Here's a link to the original court judgement if anyone is interested in the facts of the case.

And here's a link to the original order for the advertisements.

What it boiled down to, was that the judge originally thought it would be good enough if Samsung wanted to run ads saying they had won.

However, Apple continued to talk about copying even after his decision:

"It's no coincidence that Samsung's latest products look a lot like the iPhone and iPad. This kind of blatant copying is wrong and, as we've said many times before, we need to protect Apple's intellectual property."

- Apple

Apparently the judge didn't like that:

"In my judgment, Apple are carefully trying to say something which contains an innuendo that Samsung infringe without actually saying it. The reference to copying is exactly that.

It is clear that copying plays no part in this case for Registered Community Design infringement, but to many people outside the circles of intellectual property law, to say something infringes a Registered Community Design and to say someone copied your design or your product, is to say the same thing."

- Judge Birss

I think that's what tipped him over into ordering Apple to post the ads.
 
The average person you speak of isn't going to read that far into the document. The average person who sees the link in the newspaper that it also has to appear on most likely won't go home/mobile and look up the link.

"Humiliating" is your adjective. It, to me, is hyperbolic. That is my .02. Obviously, people will see what they want to in this ruling. However I would be very surprised to think Apple doesn't care or isn't upset that they have to spend money and/or put anything on their website about it at all.

The average customer will either ignore the text or click on the link within. As you said, what they think of its content afterwards will depend on them.

Whether the customer reads the link or not, Samsung does not benefit in any way. The damage is already done. This won't undo it. That's why, fairly or not, I think that they already practically lost. Of course, that's just my opinion. Yours may be different.
 
The average customer will either ignore the text or click on the link within. As you said, what they think of its content afterwards will depend on them.

Whether the customer reads the link or not, Samsung does not benefit in any way. The damage is already done. This won't undo it. That's why, fairly or not, I think that they already practically lost. Of course, that's just my opinion. Yours may be different.

And you're completely brainwashed by apple congratulations.
 
The average customer will either ignore the text or click on the link within. As you said, what they think of its content afterwards will depend on them.

Whether or not the customer reads the link or not, Samsung does not benefit in any way. The damage is already done. This won't undo it. That's why, fairly or not, I think that they already practically lost. Of course, that's just my opinion. Yours may be different.

There's nothing stopping Samsung from taking out ads in the UK or posting on their website advertising the fact that they won. And unlike Apple, their hands aren't tied with any directives other than to stay within the bounds of the law.

Will this decision have an effect? Not really. But the "damage" as you say Samsung suffered didn't occur either. Samsung's sales haven't changed for the worse since they've been accused of copying. And if anything - as reported - sales for their GS3 have increased with all of the attention they've gotten from the lawsuit.

The general public doesn't care about who is copying who.
 
Well it's clear you haven't read the entire thread because I already conceded this point. I also stated that it's irrelevant because there's no way that would be included in the actual ad. Go read KDarling's post. Because that's what matters.

You're right. I hadn't (yet) read the entire thread. :rolleyes:

On the other hand, *you* accused me of "making up facts". You were wrong. I corrected you. The fact that you had already been corrected is irrelevant.

In the future, you should make sure *you* have your facts correct before you accuse others of making things up.
 
You got it wrong in that thread too. ;)
Wrong in your opinion maybe. That's all.

You can't always appeal. You need to find a flaw in the judge's reasoning or the appeal will get thrown out.
You are correct. I wonder what reason samsung used to appeal this decision. And to get a Judge to accept it for appeal.

Wrong, the only legal system that has been proven to be flawed is the US one. Your move...
You really believe this? No legal system in the world is perfect. But it's better then no legal system anarchy I guess.
 
You're right. I hadn't (yet) read the entire thread. :rolleyes:

On the other hand, *you* accused me of "making up facts". You were wrong. I corrected you. The fact that you had already been corrected is irrelevant.

In the future, you should make sure *you* have your facts correct before you accuse others of making things up.

The fact I already acknowledged I was wrong is anything but irrelevant. You just didn't like that it wasn't in response to your post. As for the future - I always do my best to have my facts correct - especially if I am going to accuse someone - but thanks for your suggestion. As it's always my practice, I will continue that practice.

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It depends? It could work both ways.

Explain what you mean that it could work both ways?
 
But Samsung has more market share than Apple on smartphones.......
:confused::confused:

cause they make 15 different POS android phones and apple makes 1... no singe android phone ever comes colse to the iphone... android phones have tok form a big POS voltron phone to compete with iphone..lolol
 
There's nothing stopping Samsung from taking out ads in the UK or posting on their website advertising the fact that they won. And unlike Apple, their hands aren't tied with any directives other than to stay within the bounds of the law.

Will this decision have an effect? Not really. But the "damage" as you say Samsung suffered didn't occur either. Samsung's sales haven't changed for the worse since they've been accused of copying. And if anything - as reported - sales for their GS3 have increased with all of the attention they've gotten from the lawsuit.

The general public doesn't care about who is copying who.

So, do you think the Court will allow Samsung to post anything they want in their ads if they choose to do it? And, while Apple cannot alter the text given to them by the Court, is there anything to stop them from issuing a press release on their website with their own opinion on the matter?
 
So, do you think the Court will allow Samsung to post anything they want in their ads if they choose to do it? And, while Apple cannot alter the text given to them by the Court, is there anything to stop them from issuing a press release on their website with their own opinion on the matter?

How would the court have anything to say about Samsung's ad? Unless the ad violates some law - the courts don't review ads and approve or deny them to be printed.

And yes - I would Apple issuing a press release combating the court's ruling would either be contempt - or bring upon a new suit. Apple is being forced to do this because they antagonized the courts. Read the history. Even after the courts said Samsung didn't violate - Apple continued to make the claim. That's why Apple was brought to task.

So tell me - if they issue a press release - don't you think that is slapping the court in the face. Don't you think there would be repercussions?

As for Samsung - if brought to task over their ads - the worst that would/could most likely happen is that the judge says "ok Apple - you can take down your ad"

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Because YOU don't know for a fact what they can and cannot do either. Chump. Besides, gain a sense of humor, dude.

:D :D :D :D :D

Wrong.

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