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I'm pretty sure the Ad has to adhere to the courts requirements. Meaning - I wouldn't be looking for anything fun/interesting but rather straightforward and factual.

And furthermore, this is currently a civil case between two companies. Contempt of court is, on the other hand, a criminal offence with actual people potentially going to prison and getting criminal records.
 
This is horrible. Apple really should appeal this all the way up the Supreme Court, and if they are as wrong and unjust as these little lower courts, then Apple should take it to the World Court and the UN.

Samsung did nothing original, they just started up their copying machine as soon as Apple ever innovates with new products. There is NO JUSTICE in England. Everybody there should be hanging there head's in SHAME!

I don't think it is a big deal to Apple now. The Court will set guidelines for the text and Apple will use them to "apologize" to Samsung. I think they could do it "creatively" and within the boundaries of the guidelines.

I seriously doubt that Samsung will benefit from it, however.
 
This is horrible. Apple really should appeal this all the way up the Supreme Court, and if they are as wrong and unjust as these little lower courts, then Apple should take it to the World Court and the UN.

Samsung did nothing original, they just started up their copying machine as soon as Apple ever innovates with new products. There is NO JUSTICE in England. Everybody there should be hanging there head's in SHAME!

The UK isn't part of the USA so what would be the point in appealing to your Supreme Court. :D
 
Is that how justice works?

No, but they have to think of the consequences of their decision.

Apple could move to another country and so no money would go into the US economy, meaning a loss of around $28 billion (2011 figures) - and possibly even more due to the money going out of the US when consumers purchase an Apple device.

Consequences can lead to very bad outcomes, that above would obviously never happen but it's like a worse case scenario.
 
No, but they have to think of the consequences of their decision.

Apple could move to another country and so no money would go into the US economy, meaning a loss of around $28 billion (2011 figures) - and possibly even more due to the money going out of the US when consumers purchase an Apple device.

Consequences can lead to very bad outcomes, that above would obviously never happen but it's like a worse case scenario.

and you think that would happen based on this or the other court case? Seriously? Is the sky falling around you too?
 
This is as if someone were assaulted, took their assailant to court. Insufficient evidence the case is thrown out. So far seems bad but reasonable.

But then the court says the assault victim must public ally apologize to the assailant? If the victim really was assaulted, this is an extraordinarily hurtful ruling.

In apples case it shows anyone can rip off your design with little consequence. The required
burden of proof is a vague and very high bar.

No, it's not the same. You'd have to say that someone thought they might have been assaulted, and went round telling everyone that the accused had assaulted them. When it was judged that actually they hadn't been assaulted at all, then a public apology was due to the accused for damaging their reputation.
 
I'll say it again. APPLE DIDN'T SUE. Samsung started this case as they wanted the court to rule that their designs did not infringe on Apple's. Apple then counter-claimed saying they did infringe. They didn't have to do that, but they did. The judge has now ruled in Samsung's favour.

With regards to the website punishment, it's not unusual in the UK for TV, radio and newspapers having to run apologies on their own platforms (and sometimes on third-party medium as well), the same logic is being applied to Apple here.

I don't care who sued first, an apology is childish. Make them pay legal fees or whatever, but an apology is absurd. Its what I'd do if my three year old said something bad about one of his classmates. I love the UK, but this is too odd.
 
and you think that would happen based on this or the other court case? Seriously? Is the sky falling around you too?

At work we do always workout the 'worse case scenario' for our decisions, even if they are absurd they still could in the remote chance happen, as they could reflect badly on us (company).

As the same suggests it's the worse outcome that could happen. As I stated it would really never come down to that - it was to prove my point of the decisions of the judges can have negative outcomes for everyone not just Apple.
 
This is horrible. Apple really should appeal this all the way up the Supreme Court, and if they are as wrong and unjust as these little lower courts, then Apple should take it to the World Court and the UN.

Don't forget NATO, you missed them out.

Samsung did nothing original, they just started up their copying machine as soon as Apple ever innovates with new products. There is NO JUSTICE in England. Everybody there should be hanging there head's in SHAME!

We are, I honestly don't know how I'll ever look my children in the eye again.
 
I'm pretty sure the Ad has to adhere to the courts requirements. Meaning - I wouldn't be looking for anything fun/interesting but rather straightforward and factual.

Straightforward and factual:

"Confirmed: Apple recently lost a lawsuit against Samsung because the judge confirmed that the iPad was far too much cooler than Samsung's product. Buy the cooler tablet at Apple.com."
 
At work we do always workout the 'worse case scenario' for our decisions, even if they are absurd they still could in the remote chance happen, as they could reflect badly on us (company).

As the same suggests it's the worse outcome that could happen. As I stated it would really never come down to that - it was to prove my point of the decisions of the judges can have negative outcomes for everyone not just Apple.

A scenario that is that absurd would never enter into the conversation because it's absurd.

How about we deal with reality in this thread.

Apple isn't going to be able to post/advertise whatever they want in regards to this decision. The court will be reviewing all documents related to the judgement. And given that the court is the one "punishing" Apple - how likely do you really think they are to allow Apple to get away with anything other than something dry and formal?

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Straightforward and factual:

"Confirmed: Apple recently lost a lawsuit against Samsung because the judge confirmed that the iPad was far too much cooler than Samsung's product. Buy the cooler tablet at Apple.com."

You believe the court will approve that message?

Speaking to the forum in general - those that believe something like this or remotely likely this will "pass" should just log off now.
 
I'd build Apple a ladder to get over itself, but they'd probably sue me for its design ;)

Hopefully this will be the slap in the face Apple needs to bring them back to reality and start innovating again with desktops/professional systems and kick Forstall to the curb along with Browett.
 
This is what the announcement has to say

I have no idea why people think the announcement on Apple's site is going to be cheeky/snarky/etc. It's not like Apple is going to be able to write whatever they want. It would be incredibly surprising if the announcement didn't have to be first approved by the court who is mandating the announcement.

Everyone who said the announcement would be written by the court is correct:

Here's what Apple was originally ordered to do for the period of one year or until the judge decided otherwise:

Order: Post in a size no smaller than Arial 14pt, the following notice on all the Apple EU homepages, and also do the same in the following on a page before page 6: The Financial Times, the Daily Mail, The Guardian, Mobile Magazine and T3 magazine:

"On 9th July 2012 the High Court of Justice of England and Wales ruled that Samsung Electronics (UK) Limited's Galaxy Tablet computers, namely the Galaxy Tab 10.1, Tab 8.9 and Tab 7.7 do not infringe Apple 's registered design 000181607-0001. A copy of the full judgment of the High Court is available via the following link [insert hyperlink]." :
 
The problem with your images is that almost 5 years had passed between the first image and second. You have no idea what was in the product pipeline between then - do you?

You also don't take into account how technology changed in those 5 years as far as prices, quality, components, specs, etc.

You can look at many tech products 5 years apart and see how wildly different they are.

yes, you are correct. we only have the images of what samsung had enough confidence in to manufacture and sell on the open market. i'm sure they had a lot in the pipeline, but that is not what is at issue here.

as far as how the technology has changed, i would point out that samsung was a key developer of many of those technologies, which they license to others in some cases...companies like apple (one of their biggest customers).

i guess "game changer" products are just that, and thus open to imitation (the best form of flattery according to Emerson).
 
This is horrible. Apple really should appeal this all the way up the Supreme Court, and if they are as wrong and unjust as these little lower courts, then Apple should take it to the World Court and the UN.

Samsung did nothing original, they just started up their copying machine as soon as Apple ever innovates with new products. There is NO JUSTICE in England. Everybody there should be hanging there head's in SHAME!

So far, the only court that ruled in favor of Apple in entire World was the North California's court which happens to be Apple's neighbor. Combined with revelation about the shady character who chaired this court's jury this speaks volumes about the merits of this litigation as well as the quality of US judicial system (when it comes to patents).
 
Everyone who said the announcement would be written by the court is correct:

Here's what Apple was originally ordered to do for the period of one year or until the judge decided otherwise:

Order: Post in a size no smaller than Arial 14pt, the following notice on all the Apple EU homepages, and also do the same in the following on a page before page 6: The Financial Times, the Daily Mail, The Guardian, Mobile Magazine and T3 magazine:

"On 9th July 2012 the High Court of Justice of England and Wales ruled that Samsung Electronics (UK) Limited's Galaxy Tablet computers, namely the Galaxy Tab 10.1, Tab 8.9 and Tab 7.7 do not infringe Apple 's registered design 000181607-0001. A copy of the full judgment of the High Court is available via the following link [insert hyperlink]." :

This needs to be quoted because people who have been living out this fantasy that Apple will stick it to Samsung somehow regarding this verdict need to read this post carefully. At least twice.
 
This needs to be quoted because people who have been living out this fantasy that Apple will stick it to Samsung somehow regarding this verdict need to read this post carefully. At least twice.

Yes. Since "average" visitor won't know what the hell this text is all about, he/she might click on the link and read the entire humiliating judgment. Very beneficial to Samsung for sure.
 
Or Apple could just say NO. They've already won a law suit in the US. They aren't obligated to do business in the uk. If people like their products in the uk there are other countries people can buy them from.
 
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