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My God, the judge has said they are not as cool but he has not ruled that Samsung tablets don't infringe the Design Patent because they are not cool enough

It is not so hard to understand.

You claimed that the ruling "had nothing to do with not being cool enough". Section 190 (which I quoted in it's entirety) directly contradicts that claim.

It is not so hard to understand.
 
Don't assume to know what I thought. Cause in this case you are assuming wrong. I know what this case is about. As do you. Next time ask before you assume incorrectly.

Based on the first post you made in this thread - I have to say your opinion of whether or not Samsung copied is irrelevant. And this ruling isn't about the case in question. This ruling is because after the courts issued a verdict, Apple went to the "airwaves" and, for lack of better term, slapped the court/judge in the face by contradicting the ruling. The court then slapped them with this requirement which Apple tried to appeal. They lost the appeal.

Of course - you're free to not like the fact that Apple lost the appeal.

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Apple will still use the ad to their advantage possibly humiliating Samsung further.

Do tell how they will do this. I'm FASCINATED
 
You really believe this? No legal system in the world is perfect. But it's better then no legal system anarchy I guess.

Yes, Apple winning the case wasn't that unexpected but it's a little bit suspect that the only court that rules in their favor just happens to be the one at their home turf, and come on, not a single one of their ridiculous patents invalidated!? Something was seriously messed up there.


cause they make 15 different POS android phones and apple makes 1... no singe android phone ever comes colse to the iphone... android phones have tok form a big POS voltron phone to compete with iphone..lolol

If those 15 different phones were all POS, why would they sell at all? And having more models doesn't magically spawn new customers out of nowhere. They could very well be cannibalizing on each other which means the total combined total sales are still relevant. Furthermore, Apple doesn't only make one phone, there are currently three different models in production and on sale.
Also, the Galaxy SIII sales not only comes close to the iPhone...
 
The only "play" I see reading that order is the [insert hyperlink] part and that seems pretty clear they shouldn't mess with the anchor tag to try to be "snarky".

Seems pretty clear they are to display the text the court provided.

I agree completely. The potential 'play' would be in adding references to the contents of the linked ruling *in addition*.

As I said, though, I don't think they'll do so.

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True. And Apple could still appeal to the next higher court, the Supreme Court.

I can't say I'm familiar enough with the UK court systems to know whether that's actually the next level of appeals, but I'd be surprised if there were only two levels of appeal available in the UK.
 
Is there any reason why such an Apple advert wouldn't mention the US cases as well? Like "A UK court ruled that Samsung is not infringing on Apple's design patent. A US court ruled that Samsung infringed on several of Apple's patents, and ordered Samsung to pay over $1bn".
Just guess, but maybe because it's a different jurisdiction?

Should they also mention the Japanese court, where Samsung was found not have infringed on Apple patents, or the Korean court where Apple was found to have infringed on Samsung patents, or the Dutch court where Apple's slide-to-lock was effectively laughed out of the courtroom with the judge's recommendation that it be stripped of protection across the EU?

And even if they were to comply with your request for selective inclusion of findings in other jurisdictions, you may want to keep in mind that even in the US the jury found that Samsung's Galaxy Tab did not infringe.
 
You claimed that the ruling "had nothing to do with not being cool enough". Section 190 (which I quoted in it's entirety) directly contradicts that claim.

It is not so hard to understand.

The ruling had nothing to do with the coolness and the 190 paragraphs doesn't contradict nothing.

The ruling is that Samsung doesn't infringes and they don't infringed because they are different not because they are not as cool.
 
Just guess, but maybe because it's a different jurisdiction?

Should they also mention the Japanese court, where Samsung was found not have infringed on Apple patents, or the Korean court where Apple was found to have infringed on Samsung patents, or the Dutch court where Apple's slide-to-lock was effectively laughed out of the courtroom with the judge's recommendation that it be stripped of protection across the EU?

And even if they were to comply with your request for selective inclusion of findings in other jurisdictions, you may want to keep in mind that even in the US the jury found that Samsung's Galaxy Tab did not infringe.

Yep. Different cases, different countries, different laws. Getting differing results really shouldn't be as surprising as most people find it.

The math equivalent would be being surprised that 2+2=4, but 2*3=6!
 
Excellent decision from the UK courts.

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I can't say I'm familiar enough with the UK court systems to know whether that's actually the next level of appeals, but I'd be surprised if there were only two levels of appeal available in the UK.

It is the only court in the land which they can appeal to as it is the only court in the land which is higher.
 
The ruling had nothing to do with the coolness and the 190 paragraphs doesn't contradict nothing.

The ruling is that Samsung doesn't infringes and they don't infringed because they are different not because they are not as cool.

So, *now* you're claiming that section 190 *OF THE RULING* which specifically, and unequivocally, stated the Samsung tablet wasn't as cool as the iPad, "had nothing to do with the coolness"? And section 190 also doesn't contradict your claims that the ruling "had nothing to do with the coolness"?

Maybe you should try *reading* it?
 
So, *now* you're claiming that section 190 *OF THE RULING* which specifically, and unequivocally, stated the Samsung tablet wasn't as cool as the iPad, "had nothing to do with the coolness"? And section 190 also doesn't contradict your claims that the ruling "had nothing to do with the coolness"?

Maybe you should try *reading* it?

I give up. Yes, the judge has ruled that Samsung doesn't infringes a community design because Samsung tablets are not cool.

Happy? Have a good day, I won't waste more time arguing with a wall like you
 
Good.

Let Apple publicly apologize and Samsung, which has already discontinued this particular tablet, will gain by selling the Galaxy Note 10.1, Nexus 10, and other Galaxy Tab. Even those combined will not dent sales of the iPad and iPad Mini. They will cause people to pause for a moment before they buy the iPad though.

Now for Apple, lets get down to the good stuff - iMacs and Mac Minis coming out next week!
 
Bring back the Black Cap...
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I hadn't realised the Law Lords had been replaced. You learn something new every day. :D

Personally - I think the CEOs of Apple and Samsung should just go thunderdome style. 2 men enter - one man leaves and be done with it.
 
I think they should put up an advertisement with them side-by-side, using one of Samsung's own promotional pictures of their tablet which shows it most similar to the iPad, and then say "No, Samsung did not copy the iPad. Not at all." and leave it at that.

That should be exactly what they should do, a little bit of sarcasm, proving a great point !
 
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