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Apple Loses EU Fight Over App Store Gatekeeper Label

tekcor said:
Apple does not benefit EU citizens? So you don’t think EU citizens would be bothered they can’t buy Apple products? EU citizens all use Android already?
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Only for people who want an Apple product... and that is not everyone. What is the iOS share in Europe versus Android? Apple is on the low end of the scale.

Apple will flinch because it does not want to lose the revenue stream entirely. As previously stated in my post...Apple benefits from the EU market. The EU market will buy Apple if it's available; if not, it will switch to other brands.

Apple will flinch.
 
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lusty said:
What are you babbling about? This doesn’t reduce any functionality it broadens competition which is a good thing for consumers.
Apple have crippled some iPhone features in the EU, but not because of the EU. That’s why competition is a good thing!
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Yet, you are getting crippled tech from Apple, and there isn't new competion.
 
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How incredibly convenient it must be to arbitrarily pass laws to grant powers unto themselves to justify the racketeering of successful companies.

How do EU citizens not see what the EU is doing?

Because they aren't citizens .... they are subjects.

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danpass said:
How incredibly convenient it must be to arbitrarily pass laws to grant powers unto themselves to justify the racketeering of successful companies.

How do EU citizens not see what the EU is doing?

Because they aren't citizens .... they are subjects.

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Or, rewritten:

How incredibly convenient for Apple to ignore jurisdictional laws to grant powers unto themselves to justify their profiteering.

How do Apple customers not see what Apple is doing?

Because they aren't just customers, they are also subjects and often engulfed in the Apple RDF.
 
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turbineseaplane said:
Or, rewritten:

How incredibly convenient for Apple to ignore jurisdictional laws to grant powers unto themselves to justify their profiteering.

How do Apple customers not see what Apple is doing?

Because they aren't just customers, they are also subjects and often engulfed in the Apple RDF.
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actually that's called a 'logical fallacy'

Apple hasn't forced anyone into anything.

The unelected EU Commission imposes dictates.

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Prominent European figures, including former European Council President Charles Michel, have openly criticized Commission President Ursula von der Leyen for running a "super authoritarian governance". Critics contend that the Commission has systematically aggregated institutional power well beyond its legal remit, marginalizing even its own internal cabinet members to centralize decision-making in a hyper-opaque executive core. Furthermore, former EU top diplomats like Josep Borrell have warned that the Commission is actively straying beyond its treaty powers in domains like diplomacy and defense, acting like a sovereign state without the constitutional constraints of one. [1, 2, 3]

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Last time I checked, the Apple store is not legally required to provide shelf space to any vendor. Rolex need not sell Seikos. In fact, all retail businesses, even giants like Walmart, select their vendors -- not the government. I cannot see why digital stores should be any different.
 
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lusty said:
Democracy. When things are openly voted on it’s called a democracy. Nobody dictated anything, EU citizens voted for their representatives who voted on this law. Most citizens are in favour of this. The culture here is very different to the US.
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Can you link to an article on the web that substantiates this claim?
 
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lusty said:
Competition takes time. Did you think overnight someone would spring up, create an App store and rival Apple?
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Regulations gently don't create competition and stifle innovation. The EU is risky now to investment in because you don't know what the next crippling regulation is going to be and how it may impact your business.
 
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UliBaer said:
You asked for proof of: "Most citizens are in favour of this."
I gave you the link, the reading (and understanding) is your task.
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Controversies​

In August 2025, research in the Netherlands revealed pervasive errors in the representativeness of the selected samples of the research company Verian, which conducts the research for Eurobarometer in the Netherlands. It found that in the samples in the Netherlands, Sweden, and Finland, people with a progressive left political preference and a higher level of education are overrepresented. Both these traits are correlated with pro-EU preferences.
 
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UliBaer said:
You asked for proof of: "Most citizens are in favour of this."
I gave you the link, the reading (and understanding) is your task.
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No, that article says that most people trust the European Commission. Absolutely nothing in that Wikipedia article says that the majority of E.U. Citizens supports what the EC is doing in terms of the debate going on in this thread. And just because a survey says that E.U. Citizens trust the EC overall, that does not mean they agree with every decision the EC makes. Find me a survey that shows that the majority of E.U. citizens support everything the EC is doing under the draconian DMA.
 
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MeasterHD said:
EU and its dictatorship in action.
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You might want to study the EU constitution.
Meanwhile, last week’s SCOTUS decision gave unprecedented executive power to the POTUS over all federal agencies. They include the one in which regulators are overseeing the biggest tech companies. If the EU Commission were in reality controlled by a dictator, then —comparatively— the US federal agencies are now controlled by a despot.
 
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eifelbube said:
You might want to study the EU constitution.
Meanwhile, last week’s SCOTUS decision gave unprecedented executive power to the POTUS over all federal agencies. They include the one in which regulators are overseeing the biggest tech companies. If the EU Commission were in reality controlled by a dictator, then —comparatively— the US federal agencies are now controlled by a despot.
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There’s something called the three branches of government….
 
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To be classified as a "gatekeeper" under the DMA, a company must fulfill certain criteria, including having sales across the EU of at least €7.5 billion, or a market capitalization of €75 billion or above. The designation also requires platforms or services to have more than 45 million monthly active users and over 10,000 active business users annually within the EU.
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“of at least €7.5 billion” in each of the last three financial years

“or a market capitalization of €75 billion or above” in the last financial year, and it provides the same core platform service in at least three Member States

in the last financial year “have more than 45 million monthly active users and over 10,000 active business users annually within the EU.”
 
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