Short lifecycle. That's it. Chinese people are well aware of that, they buy cheaper smartphones, 150-200-300 and then after 6months or 1year they buy a new one with upgrades, new OS iteration etc
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Apple Loses Fourth Place to Xiaomi in Booming China Smartphone Market
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Short lifecycle. That's it. Chinese people are well aware of that, they buy cheaper smartphones, 150-200-300 and then after 6months or 1year they buy a new one with upgrades, new OS iteration etc
Hey it's ok. If other mfgs can make something their customers can afford then great.
An Apple iPhone would be a luxury item. It's something people could aspire to buy if they so felt it warranted the extra cost.
..and that's why Apple needs to stay on top of the competition and never become a commodity product.
An Apple iPhone would be a luxury item. It's something people could aspire to buy if they so felt it warranted the extra cost.
..and that's why Apple needs to stay on top of the competition and never become a commodity product.
I gotta agree with @DUIduckSAUCE on this one. The iPhone is a mass produced, high volume, commodity electronic device that sold in Walmart and was featured in buy one get one free offers from carriers. It's a high trim level Camry. There's nothing wrong with that.
This always makes me laugh.
You do realise how many iPhones people own?
Apple can never be a luxury product, simply because the whole premise is for it to be so expensive and so luxury many don't have one.
iPhones are mass consumer devices that even children own.
Not wishing to pay more than needed for the same or better features has nothing to do with buying cheap cos you can't afford Apple.
Totally agree. And on that scale some other phones are 10 year old civics. So pick your scale.
Uh... okay?Totally agree. And on that scale some other phones are 10 year old civics. So pick your scale.
I mean, I would have chosen less expensive brands like Kia or Hyundai to represent less expensive brands like Oppo or Xiaomi, making the analogy much more appropriate, but hey if your goal was to be derogatory... a 10 year old Civic fits the bill I guess.
I was wondering why the iPhone went from a BMW to a Toyota. But sometimes the nuances get lost in online forums; do I wasn't being derogatory only wondering what the scale of phone models are mapped to cars.
From what I heard on mac break weekly podcast he is still tweeting from an android phone on his personal twitter account
I'm sorry but number "7" is also a good number in most Chinese cultures although not as good as "8". It's the number "4" that is often regarded as unlucky.
ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_in_Chinese_culture
Just my opinion, but I think it's a more appropriate because the iPhone is a high volume, commodity device analogous to a high volume, commodity car brand like a Toyota to Samsung's Ford. They are ubiquitous. They're everywhere and can be purchased just about anywhere. That's not BMW, Audi, Porsche, Ferrari, or any other high end brand that some like to throw around as comparisons to iPhones. Again, it's not a bad thing.
7 might have a negative connotation if used with 4 (74 pronounced separately sounds like someone telling you to go and die), but on its own, 7 doesn't really sound offensive to my knowledge at least.
Same applies for iPhone. I doubt Trump would use only an iPhone for all his twitter campaign.
He will use a device that could not even be seen by others in USA for all critical communications.
You could look up Apple site for more info, such as http://www.apple.com/cn , and http://www.apple.com/jp . They still list iPhone 6s series and iPhone 7 series price. Both in China and in Japan, Apple store price is very similar to retail price in some local stores.
He's probably the sort who believes that it is the end of the world because Apple chose to phase out their wireless router and time capsules. Apple operates like any other business - they enter into a niche because they believe that the market is failing to deliver a solution to a certain section of customers but we're now in 2017 and the router space isn't the dire wasteland that it was when the airport was originally launched. It is amazing how none of these complainers ever talk about when Apple exited from being an ISP, from selling printers, scanners, digital cameras etc. or is it the fact that they've only jumped onto the Apple bandwagon in the last couple of years and are suddenly an expert on all things Apple because they own a single solitary iPhone.
No, not this reason.
I am a Chinese, 7 is totally ok (4 is bad).
The reason why iPhone market share decline is that iPhone 7=iPhone 6s=iPhone 6, one case for 3 years, shame for Apple.
If iPhone 8 has a large growth, it will be because of the new look, not it's name.
It sold better than the 6s everywhere else so that's not it. It's basic economics.
Cheaper alternatives that people can afford.
I find this interesting. I can't speak for the economics in China. But I do I know Xiaomi is priced significantly lower than the iPhone, even though the iPhone is manufactured in China. Yet, it's priced unaffordably where it's not obtainable for the Chinese to own. It just seems ironic to me about two phones manufacturered in China. Assuming your post is true about the price point in China.
Why do I get the feeling the iPhone 8 won't live up to expectations?
Because that's the way Apple rolls these days.
You're right, Chinese really like shopping abroad. But those people shopping abroad only accounting for a very small proportion of the total population.
iPhone is great, but too expensive for ordinary people. vivo, oppo, xiaomi and huawei are much cheaper, some of their smartphones are not bad, with some features Chinese really like, duo-sim cards for example, Apple will not provide duo-simcard iPhone in 2017 I think.
Yes that's another reason, also ture.
iPhone is great, but too expensive for ordinary people. vivo, oppo, xiaomi and huawei are much cheaper, some of their smartphones are not bad, with some features Chinese really like, duo-sim cards for example, Apple will not provide duo-simcard iPhone in 2017 I think.
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Yes that's another reason, also ture.
As a Chinese, I noticed that more and more of my friends turn to iPhone from Samsung... especially the iPhone 6S and iPhone 7... Samsung is now literally dead in China... You could see notices of banning Samsung Note 7 everywhere in Chinese airports....
For your information, Chinese people prefer foreign brands... But Huawei and Lenovo are exceptions, they provide many high quality products. Oppo, Vivo, Xiaomi are pretty for the low-ends, Xiaomi is transforming itself from a low-end brand to a high-end brand using the bezel-free Xiaomi Mix.
We young people prefer Apple products, older people prefer Huawei. Huawei's high-end models are not cheaper than iPhone 7 in Chinese market.
I appreciate a lot Apple's eco system, it's amazing. There is no other company who could build such a complete eco system providing smart watch, smartphone, tablet and desktop based on its cloud service. In China, more and more people are realizing the huge difference between Apple and other phone manufacturers. We enjoy buying all Apple products and linking them via iCloud. It's just so convenient.
For your information, Chinese people prefer foreign brands... But Huawei and Lenovo are exceptions, they provide many high quality products. Oppo, Vivo, Xiaomi are pretty for the low-ends, Xiaomi is transforming itself from a low-end brand to a high-end brand using the bezel-free Xiaomi Mix.
We young people prefer Apple products, older people prefer Huawei. Huawei's high-end models are not cheaper than iPhone 7 in Chinese market.
I appreciate a lot Apple's eco system, it's amazing. There is no other company who could build such a complete eco system providing smart watch, smartphone, tablet and desktop based on its cloud service. In China, more and more people are realizing the huge difference between Apple and other phone manufacturers. We enjoy buying all Apple products and linking them via iCloud. It's just so convenient.
Well there lies the hypocrisy.... when apple has markert share, it's a critical measure of success , Apple Watch , when apple drops to say like 5 here, it's a worthless measure , it's not MR editors that are the problem, it's the diehard fans that contradict themselves and frankly just make up facts to suit thier story at a given time, meaning no matter what the news, it's all positive for apple.
Hint markert share should be very very important to you, the less units you sell the higher the price to maintain the profits . That means you are paying more each year for apple products and gloating they have record profits while more and more people leave. I finally stopped when iPhone 7 plus with AppleCare was about £1038. Next model is rumoured to go up in price . Give me markert share and cheaper prices anytime!!!!!
Your current CEO is raising prices and saving money everywhere , like the crap intel modems, the more that leave, the more prices will raise so the ones staying can be smug they have the most expansive and therefore the best phone....no price does not mean the best. More and more people I see getting fed up with pricing and just wanting a phone, prices have frankly become ridiculous levels that surpass laptops
Well, Thank goodness Apple maintains such a robust, affordable, cutting-edge, varied assortment of other products, in case that phone business slips away.