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Apple Losing Talent to Google Amid Push to Improve Spotlight and Launch Search Engine
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ilikewhey
macrumors 68040
just like apple map, the first thing i do with a new phone is put google map as default 😂
Apple still does. My 14 PM is an outstanding phone with an outstanding camera (I'm a photographer). My Studio Mac and Display are superb; especially for post processing photos.
As you believe Apple no longer makes great hardware/software, which Apple competitor will you be rewarding your currency with for phones/computers/tablets/watches? Name a few brands and models.
gaximus
macrumors 68030
Siri not listening when I say "Hey Siri" is the only part of Siri I don't have an issue with.Apple's already on it. 🤣
Gurman: Apple Working On Revamped Siri Experience That Doesn't Require 'Hey Siri' Trigger Phrase
Apple is working on an updated Siri experience that moves away from the "Hey Siri" trigger phrase currently required to invoke the digital voice assistant hands-free, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman reports. In his latest "Power On" newsletter, Gurman said that Apple is working on a way for Siri to be...www.macrumors.com
<rant> I have a HomePod ins reach bedroom of my house, and a set of HomeKit capable lights. They all have the name "Lights" and all rooms except my own, I can say "Turn on the lights in here" and Siri does it. But in my room, when I say "turn on the lights in here" she just responds "What room would you like to turn the lights on?" and lists all the rooms expect my room. 😡 I also found out that she does not like being cussed at and "doesn't respond to that language" </rant>
TheMacDaddy1
macrumors 65816
This is the truth.Apple’s stance on privacy is all about marketing and nothing more!
Apple Is Tracking You Even When Its Own Privacy Settings Say It’s Not, New Research Says
An independent test suggests Apple collects data about you and your phone when its own settings promise to “disable the sharing of Device Analytics altogether.”gizmodo.com
DuckDuckGo is actually using Bing results in the background, which means it’s not a true search engine. Just an aggregator.
Remember to turn on Siri analytics and then call her stupid 😂
Dark_Omen
macrumors 65816
I was going to say.. They can't even get Siri right.
For iOS 17, an entirely new AI experience needs to be shown off. I should be able to ask Siri to turn off wifi and bluetooth and it should do it for me... Not open the settings app or act confused.
If Apple wants to collect data, collect it from your voice assistant AI... Not a pointless search engine.
Samuel Sosa
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HMI
macrumors 65816
zinacef
macrumors 6502
I might be going that route as well as HomeKit is a mess and nothing works. And don’t get me started about the broken Automations!
Yes, because everyone isn’t tired of hearing about Elon/Twitter. Points deducted for posting an article from The Verge..... meanwhile over on Twitter land 🤣
Twitter Blue signups disappear a day after fakes and mayhem
Twitter Blue disappears from Twitter’s iOS appwww.theverge.com
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Dark_Omen
macrumors 65816
I like to compare Apple to American Express.
Apple needs to build quality, bug-free software. The amount of bugs is ridiculous - it's almost like they hire developers from EA or something. Build iOS from scratch if there's issues with the legacy code. A separate team can be hired to work on a fresh OS while the other team works on security fixes and other issues with the current software.
Apple also needs to focus on quality hardware. A brand new iPad being compatible only with the 1st generation Apple Pencil and requiring the use of an adapter is pathetic and laughable. It's almost like there's nobody at Apple who actually takes the time to think through what their hardware is supposed to do.
Now we have this privacy and search engine issue. Don't get into another sector when you can't even get everything right at the moment. Where's that Apple Car by the way?
- Both used to be a prestigious brand that is prestigious no more. It used to be awesome having an iPad or an iPhone.. Now it's just another device that's barely different than their competitors. It also used to be an honor to have an American Express card in your wallet... Now even debit cards use the American Express network, and they hand their credit cards out out like candy now.
- Both now have too many end users to focus on a quality experience.
Apple needs to build quality, bug-free software. The amount of bugs is ridiculous - it's almost like they hire developers from EA or something. Build iOS from scratch if there's issues with the legacy code. A separate team can be hired to work on a fresh OS while the other team works on security fixes and other issues with the current software.
Apple also needs to focus on quality hardware. A brand new iPad being compatible only with the 1st generation Apple Pencil and requiring the use of an adapter is pathetic and laughable. It's almost like there's nobody at Apple who actually takes the time to think through what their hardware is supposed to do.
Now we have this privacy and search engine issue. Don't get into another sector when you can't even get everything right at the moment. Where's that Apple Car by the way?
MrDerby01
macrumors regular
These days and recent past Apple has not been innovative at all. They tried to sell a "New phone" with the same hardware and pass it off as earth shattering technology LOL. Apple's privacy stance is also a farce. They claim to care but even recently worked again with the Chinese government to "help follow the law" So why wouldn't talent go somewhere where they can make more money or even have more of a voice in the direction of their projects\products..
so Apple is behind on the apple car> Don’t care
Apple is behind on AR/VR headset> Don’t care
Apple is behind on search> Don’t care
Apple is behind on <your favorite thing here> I’m perfectly fine with where things are
Apple is doomed> Not as long as Google/Android is the only competitor
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lazyrighteye
Contributor
Unfortunately, yes. The bang for buck is insane from Apple's pov. Basically, lots of $$$ for relatively little effort. It's the tech sector's meth. I was hoping Apple would pass on the easy high because, like meth, that story never ends well.
GuruZac
macrumors 68040
Well, it appears that Siri started out slow and just tapered off from there…
JippaLippa
macrumors 68000
When you try to be "everything" that's the tesults.
lovehateapple
macrumors 6502a
I agree with the first part of your post, but not sure why it's sad times for apple. I welcome an apple native search engine even if there are ads. Apple's success in search will depend on the quality of the results and the quality of the ads.
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lovehateapple
macrumors 6502a
Times change. Change is probably the only constant thing in life.
I always love to see competitors to Google. Google's search results got worse when they started to make the personal and local. I liked the times when everybody good the same search result from the same search query.
As a website owner I hate the "mobile first" policy of Google. That means that Google will use a mobile user agent for its crawling and if some parts of your website are not visible in the mobile version, Google will not crawl them. That very much annoys me because if you have a website with huge tables, it really is a pain in the ... to transfer them to mobile. If the text is too small, Google will complain, but if the text is readable, not a lot of text fits on a mobile screen.
Google's market dominance made them very arrogant towards website owners. They dictate how a website has to look, because if they are not satisfied, they will give your website a lower rank. Fortunately my websites are not commercial and my income does not depend on how Google ranks them, but for many people Google's always changing ranking algorithms are really a problem.
Recently they introduced a "Show more" link at the bottom of the results page and I often clicked it because I thought it would be show more results to my query. Instead it shows you results for a "related" query which usually is not very related.
As a website owner I hate the "mobile first" policy of Google. That means that Google will use a mobile user agent for its crawling and if some parts of your website are not visible in the mobile version, Google will not crawl them. That very much annoys me because if you have a website with huge tables, it really is a pain in the ... to transfer them to mobile. If the text is too small, Google will complain, but if the text is readable, not a lot of text fits on a mobile screen.
Google's market dominance made them very arrogant towards website owners. They dictate how a website has to look, because if they are not satisfied, they will give your website a lower rank. Fortunately my websites are not commercial and my income does not depend on how Google ranks them, but for many people Google's always changing ranking algorithms are really a problem.
Recently they introduced a "Show more" link at the bottom of the results page and I often clicked it because I thought it would be show more results to my query. Instead it shows you results for a "related" query which usually is not very related.
lazyrighteye
Contributor
History is rife with things Steve said that contradicted things Steve did.
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boswald
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It's no secret Siri is lacking, but I had no idea Spotlight needs help.
jz0309
macrumors P6
I am with you on all counts, hence my /s at the bottom of my post…
You clearly have no familiarity with the second system effect. Those who don't understand great debacles in engineering are doomed to suggest them on comment boards.