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Apple LTE-enabled iPhone Due in 2012, iPhone 4S Preparations for September 2011
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This! For all we know Apple are the ones "leaking" flake information just to create false rumors in order to prevent anyone from knowing thir real plans. Cunsomer and compeditor alike.
Hi, could you please stop calling it the iPhone 4S? I bet it's gonna be the iPhone 5. The iPhone 3GS moniker was necessary, since it was the 3rd iPhone and any other number would have been confusing. The current iPhone 4 though is actually number 4. The chip is the A4. Why on earth should Apple stop counting it's iPhones and - by naming it iPhone 4S - give the impression, the new iPhone is basically the old iPhone while inside we have the A5? They deliberately did not start naming the chips with number 1 because it was supposed to be named in line with the iPhone it is embedded in. Therefore: From now on no more S-iPhones.
Or am I wrong?
Or they could just do an "Intel Pentium", and name it something completely different. Like Elderflower, or Boron, or Hatrack.
Today DigiTmes is claiming that the iphone 4S will begin production in August and launchSeptember, "a bigger screen that goes edge-to-edge, A5 dual-core processor and a better 8-megapixel camera."
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/05/18/d...in-august-will-include-an-8-megapixel-camera/
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Out of all the strange rumors of an iPhone 4S this year, why do some people still think the sixth iPhone next year would be called an iPhone *5*?
Out of all the strange rumors of an iPhone 4S this year, why do some people still think the sixth iPhone next year would be called an iPhone *5*?
I can't wait until WWDC next month when Apple shows off whatever new iPhone they've come up with, and all of these "analysts" are proven wrong. And for the record, the 3G S was a huge jump from the 3G.
The extra speed was nice, but it wasn't noticeable until the latest iOS release dropped features if you only had a 3G.
8MP in the camera is nice, but I really want an optical zoom. Those Carl Zeis lens rumors went away a while back, and I was really hoping they would come back. Until there is an optical zoom, the iPhone camera won't fully replace my Sony Cybershot point and shoot.
...people with iPhone 4's will say it's a lame upgrade and they're glad they'll be getting the LTE release next year...
...the 3G and 3GS crowd will say that the 3G network is the greatest thing to ever happen to man and anything beyond it would just be shameless excess...
...this year's model will be called the same number as the iOS that comes pre-installed on it... Hmm...
...oh and there will be some (mostly) irrelevant manufacturing issue that will get blown completely out of proportion.
For the record I've got an iPhone 4 and I'm glad I'll be getting the LTE model next year... I hope they call it an iPhone Pro just to piss you 3GSers off!
You forgot one:
... and they will sell a butt-load of them.
Please describe how you think an optical zoom would fit in a 9.3mm thick smartphone and how you think the lens in such a configuration would impact resolving power and image quality.
Feel free to use specific examples of optical physics to illustrate your hypothesis.
iPhone 4G and Liquidmetal
I think the next move will be 4G (not 4S), followed by a 4GS (if necessary) then onto the 5, following the same progression as the iP3. Pairing with companies who have a 4G/LTE networks (Verizon and now ATT is building its 4G network) makes me think a 4G capable phone will come sooner rather than later. If not on this next phone, then with the release after. I'm looking forward to seeing an iPhone with a case made of liquidmetal. Since their contract, enough time passed that they could be pumping them out w/ the next major release.
I think the next move will be 4G (not 4S), followed by a 4GS (if necessary) then onto the 5, following the same progression as the iP3. Pairing with companies who have a 4G/LTE networks (Verizon and now ATT is building its 4G network) makes me think a 4G capable phone will come sooner rather than later. If not on this next phone, then with the release after. I'm looking forward to seeing an iPhone with a case made of liquidmetal. Since their contract, enough time passed that they could be pumping them out w/ the next major release.
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AFAIK, there isn't any downside to putting Thunderbolt on the Mac in regards to battery life. Also, the comparison is quite pointless.
Others don't have 4G coverage where they live. I'm sure most could do with WiFi instead.
The more logical progression of the iPhone's evolution would be HSPA+, not LTE.I think the next move will be 4G (not 4S), followed by a 4GS (if necessary) then onto the 5, following the same progression as the iP3. Pairing with companies who have a 4G/LTE networks (Verizon and now ATT is building its 4G network) makes me think a 4G capable phone will come sooner rather than later. If not on this next phone, then with the release after. I'm looking forward to seeing an iPhone with a case made of liquidmetal. Since their contract, enough time passed that they could be pumping them out w/ the next major release.
HSPA+ is very well deployed around the world, with many markets on their second or third iteration of the technology. Even the USA (laggards of the cellular world) has HSPA+ networks.
LTE by contrast is starting to be deployed around the world. An LTE iPhone next year would match Apple's prior history of building handsets based on dominant network technology.
I'm in the minority here, I suppose, in thinking that this is a bad move by Apple. The Android smartphone makers are all screaming about 4G. AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile and Verizon are all rolling out 4G. Yet Apple doesn't feel it needs to produce a 4G handset because the chips aren't ready? How can the chips not be ready if Samsung and Motorola can ship 4G smartphones. Are they using some chip from the future that Apple doesn't have access to?
Apple will be ceding more smartphone market share to Android if they don'g include 4G. It was fine not to include 3G in the first iPhone because it was a revolutionary product back then with no other alternative. Today, however, there are alternatives and the entire smartphone industry is innovating at a very fast rate. Apple can't afford to sit still. An iPhone 4S would be essentially sitting still amidst an onslaught of 4G Android devices with larger screens.
Also, will you lock yourself into a 2-year contract for a 4S in September knowing that in 8-10 months there will be an iPhone 5 supporting 4G LTE? This just seems like a bad move.
Apple will be ceding more smartphone market share to Android if they don'g include 4G. It was fine not to include 3G in the first iPhone because it was a revolutionary product back then with no other alternative. Today, however, there are alternatives and the entire smartphone industry is innovating at a very fast rate. Apple can't afford to sit still. An iPhone 4S would be essentially sitting still amidst an onslaught of 4G Android devices with larger screens.
Also, will you lock yourself into a 2-year contract for a 4S in September knowing that in 8-10 months there will be an iPhone 5 supporting 4G LTE? This just seems like a bad move.
Samsung et al can ship LTE smartphones with abysmally poor battery performance. Which is what they do because they are willing to make that concession.
This is likely one of the design compromises that COO Tim Cook did not want to make, something he mentioned during the last conference call with financial analysts.
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Can't all these blogs wait a couple more weeks until Apple officially announces it. I am going to laugh when Jobs says it will be available at the end of June.
You are assuming they are that competent come Cupertino way. They are not by a long shot. Steve does a good PR mop-up.
Or am I wrong?
You are wrong. I am still betting on iPhone 4G. I'll be drinking for free all of WWDC when this goes down.
Because its still selling extremely well. There is no point introducing new products when the current one is kicking competitors ass.